Manipulating Plants By Altering Light Hours

[Pass2TheLeft]

Was having a puff thinking about vegging budded clones which ive had amazing results with over the years.
The 1st 2 weeks of flowering the plant grows fast and most the flowering points grow in this phase, has anyone tryed to veg there plants as there plants start to bud then 12/12 them again to exploit that first part of flowering again to create more flowering points?.the obvious risk is herming your plants.id be really interested to hear if anyone has try this

 

[Jack og]

Similar to monster cropping. I’ve done it. Reveg 2-3 weeks into flower, plant goes nuts and then man the node development is crazy.
Reveg, the canopy was cut back and it’s crazy atm

 

[Pass2TheLeft]

Similar to monster cropping. I’ve done it. Reveg 2-3 weeks into flower, plant goes nuts and then man the node development is crazy.
Reveg, the canopy was cut back and it’s crazy atm

Thanks bro ill try it next grow and see how it goes cheers

 

[RooR5mm]

Similar to monster cropping. I’ve done it. Reveg 2-3 weeks into flower, plant goes nuts and then man the node development is crazy.
Reveg, the canopy was cut back and it’s crazy atm

I know monster cropping is variety dependent. Had success in the past had some “failures”. I first did it because I had clones that didn’t root and I didn’t want to lose the variety. I never knew it was an actual propagation practice till several years.
Between monster cropping cloning a flowering plant or placing a rooted cutting/small plant into flower for a couple of weeks then back to veg, what do you think the more successful route would be?

 

[Jack og]

Any phenotype or method can be manipulated from early flower back to veg to flower, provided one understands that time is the only factor that you loose.
Now along with light, you will need to reintroduce veg feed for 2-3 weeks to ensure healthy cola / top development in later on. I also use a node development nutrition during this phase, will post pic of the item I use.

 

[RooR5mm]

Any phenotype or method can be manipulated from early flower back to veg to flower, provided one understands that time is the only factor that you loose.
Now along with light, you will need to reintroduce veg feed for 2-3 weeks to ensure healthy cola / top development in later on. I also use a node development nutrition during this phase, will post pic of the item I use.

I’ve seen people clone buds not just some whispy start of a bud.

 

[Jack og]

This what I use before I flip back to flower, used once a week for 2 weeks, foliar spray.

 

[Jack og]

Flowering plant clone , this one I just did 2 weeks ago, had a branch break when I was adjusting the trellis. Some rooting hormone and I stick it right into soil. Been sitting outiside, natural longer light cycle, rooted in 8days and is taking off, knarley twisted growth but these do great. Breed, is true og skunk cross with blueberries, some stuff I mess around with gauging flower cycle and yield , this suckers yield like crazy. I haven’t named it yet as this is only the 4th Breed back. One more cross to og then I’ll be asking forum for a name!!

 

[Jack og]

Buds have a tendency not to take well but I’ve taken clone post harvest with 50/50 shot on rooting, what I’ve learned is if that’s the route to go, I usually leave a few lower branches with bud/flower on and I treat them with rooting hormone one week before I take the cut, this is after harvest, feed a little to keep alive and apply hormones directly to branches that I will cut for clones.
They also take well in soil directly but better in rock wool. Soil it can be done but the risk of rot is high

 

[Jack og]

This is one going through the changes of flower to Re-veg, you get those one leaf to 2, to 3 before you see any 5s. Then I hit it with the node hormone and she takes off. Hit it with some 30-10-10 , for 3 feed cycles , retrain , tuck etc. and let nature take its course. I cut back the feed and flush before I switch to flower regiment. Ph is critical at this stage as one can easily cause lockout. So go 1/3rd the recommendation on feed until day 7 on flip. Then watch ph and feed/water as you normally. I’m on super soil so mostly organic supplement and heavy carbs towards week 4-6. Watch for heat and humidity, I keep em 78-85, day and 68-72 night, 55-60 humidity until about week 7 then I drop humidity to 40 and hold. This is where the terpenoids and trichromatic magic occurs. Light wise, I supplement during summer months , natural light cycle. Winter I use Mh/led mix to maintain par values.

 

[Pass2TheLeft]

Any phenotype or method can be manipulated from early flower back to veg to flower, provided one understands that time is the only factor that you loose.
Now along with light, you will need to reintroduce veg feed for 2-3 weeks to ensure healthy cola / top development in later on. I also use a node development nutrition during this phase, will post pic of the item I use.

The plan wasnt to take it that far bro was thinking veg for a few days using a anti gibberlin and then switching back to flower to try keep the plant tipping to increase flowering points on colas im not sure if this will work but i will test it at the moment when i switch to flower i get 10 or so flowering points on each cola i want to try increase this and trick the plant into contunied tipping

 

[Gtek]

I revegged flowering plants before after harvest. I understand what you thinking.... take advantage of the stretch then re-veg and put back into flower. The plants will need at least 2 weeks to switch back from flower to veg and then after flipping them again another 2 weeks... in that case might as well just veg longer and grow in big pots....

 

[Pass2TheLeft]

Over the years ive mucked around trying di

I revegged flowering plants before after harvest. I understand what you thinking.... take advantage of the stretch then re-veg and put back into flower. The plants will need at least 2 weeks to switch back from flower to veg and then after flipping them again another 2 weeks... in that case might as well just veg longer and grow in big pots....

I already grow large plants bro and i monster crop often i just want to try keep the plant in that phase of growth when you flip plants and they go crazy im thinking as soon as i see buds starting to form throwing hairs like sexing a plant then vegging for a few days as soon as i see the plant starting to go back to veg flipping back to flower maybe i smoke to much weed lol but my thoughts are to try increase flowering points per cola i currently grow with a mix of led hps i use hps to stretch young plants in veg to form a larger base for lst unless im monster cropping then i use veg mode on led .once i stretch a plant with hps for a couple weeks i veg it with a led on veg cycle to promote close internodal points on colas then hit them with full spectrum for flowering each plant is 4x4 and i keep them low as possible between 50 to 60 cm high

 

[Jack og]

The risk of Hermies is higher if you do that.

The plan wasnt to take it that far bro was thinking veg for a few days using a anti gibberlin and then switching back to flower to try keep the plant tipping to increase flowering points on colas im not sure if this will work but i will test it at the moment when i switch to flower i get 10 or so flowering points on each cola i want to try increase this and trick the plant into contunied tipping

 

[Pass2TheLeft]

The risk of Hermies is higher if you do that.

Yes agreed bro i will watch for it carefully i often cross strains anyways so im no stranger to breeding plants and crossing strains

 

[Jack og]

Use the nitrozime for greater node development. Easier and less risk of hermies

 

[Jack og]

I did by mistake take an entire grow, from flower to veg when my timer went caput. Was a few weeks until I realized I was lights on all the time instead of the 12/12. Tell ya what, best yield I got that cycle, now I purposefully do that

 

[Gtek]

yeah you can try it would be interesting to see as an experiment.... 60cm isnt really that big you could try to go for 120cm :) maybe you will end up getting huge colas with the right strain...

 

[Pass2TheLeft]

Use the nitrozime for greater node development. Easier and less risk of hermies

Thanks bro i will look into it.its hard to get quality nutrient here or talk to anyone with any real exprience growing where i live is very secretive as it is still illegal

 

[Jack og]

Sometimes I forget, we are in a legal state and we can do things others can’t. Sorry if I didn’t realize that!!
But love the inputs from all over the world. I wish and hope this stupid proof prohibition on weed ends world wide. Crime would go down, government makes its cut and we all get better ethical products . Till then, grow on my fellow brothers and sisters in weed;)