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You are misguided if you believe this. Period.
I usually go off on a diatribe, but that's it this time. You're just plain wrong.
I respect all of you and your opinions and may your horse win in November. Unfortunately the govt is broke and outdated and my horse isn't running so I'm going to do the best I can with what I've got.
I respect all of you and your opinions and may your horse win in November. Unfortunately the govt is broke and outdated and my horse isn't running so I'm going to do the best I can with what I've got.
He's not wrong, he just has had a life experience that you can't understand because you haven't had the same experiences. Your diatribes don't make you "right", it just delineates your line of thinking... I have mixed feelings, one side says wow, Squiggly will have to fall hard before he ever understands anything he can't quantify with an equation, the other side says, I wish I my perceptions were so dichotic, black and white.
None of our horses are running, dude. My only suggestion has been to say that the best you can do with what you've got is voting for Obama. It would take a blind man not to see this.
Charles Bukowski said: "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence."
I think that quote defines republicans and democrats.
For YEARS, republicans have had a very strong base of total wack-jobs. They are riled up, they BELIEVE in the message of the GOP. It is a clear message. This is God's country. For many people this is an easy message to get behind.
The democrats message is NOT unified in this way--so what you end up with is a HUGE SWATH of people who would normally lean left, but as a result of their doubts don't vote AT ALL, because for some reason they believe this is better.
The trick to elections anymore is not voting for the best guy--that guy isn't in the running. The trick is to vote for the guy who will do the least damage, the guy who will encourage progressiveness (not necessarily just by his policies, but by showing the other side--"hey, this guy can get elected--we maybe need to come a bit closer to the center.
This country has flourished when it has lived in the center--and its generally only done that under democratic presidents. That isn't to say they've all been good, they haven't--they've just been consistently better for the political atmosphere.
Its no different now. If Obama stays, it will send a message to the GOP that perhaps the scare tactics and propaganda need to cool out. If he leaves--it will reward these tactics and policies of that side. This is not acceptable.
Obviously there are a lot of issues to have stances on, and Ron Paul did have some really favorable ones. However that's not the question anymore dude.
The question is very simply:
Will you vote for the guy you think will do the best?
or
Will you, through your inaction, vote for the guy who wins--no matter who that is.
Be it Obama, or Romney--at least cast your vote. It is your duty as a citizen.
Not jumping in squig. You don't know me or my finical situation therefore you cannot speak for me nor change my mind. No disrespect to you are any on the farm. Obama is giving out entitlements just to get votes and the last time I checked we were broke. Please leave my out I am going to end up saying something that will offend a member and I DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. PEACE.
I don 't like or believe Obama but I will vote for him no matter how much I despise the facts. Romney comes off like a shady used car salesmen, i feel like i'm being sold when I hear him speak rather then being persuaded by truth. Obama has a fake smile as well but Romney's is covered in cheese. Though the present situation is screwed up i'm sure it can be worse with Romney in charge. "Democracy" is still better then Fascism.
squig ,you have got to be the most divisive person on this site,no one can be right or express a differing opinion but you.Best of luck,Im out.
squig ,you have got to be the most divisive person on this site,no one can be right or express a differing opinion but you.Best of luck,Im out.
I don 't like or believe Obama but I will vote for him no matter how much I despise the facts. Romney comes off like a shady used car salesmen, i feel like i'm being sold when I hear him speak rather then being persuaded by truth. Obama has a fake smile as well but Romney's is covered in cheese. Though the present situation is screwed up i'm sure it can be worse with Romney in charge. "Democracy" is still better then Fascism.
Squiggly brings up great points, and they are logical and all that... but for me they don't speak to the reality of the situation as I perceive it. In my experience, politics is the business of keeping the status quo for the wealthiest people on Earth, and figuring out ways to manage the proletariate without them feeling like cattle. Political office is just a tool, money another tool, in the task of manipulating a group of conditioned individuals into a place of superiority over the group of unconditioned individuals, in order to keep a few large families from ever having to give up their claims of land and title.
So, in dealing with only the perception of the office, I would say that, Yes, Obama does appear to be the choice to vote for if you are conditioned to believe that the President is the seat of power in America, and also aren't one of the wealthiest folks in America. That statement seems valid to me.
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