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Man , you really don't want to get me started on this one , I could write for hours just on the points you've raised............a quick aside as regards the redistricting in Ohio , you'll find the dirty mitts of none other than Rod Parsley if you manage to trace that one back far enough.
And NO I'll not vote for O'Bummer , nor RipEmOff Romney , and sure as hell not for Faux Libertarian Paul.
As regards O'Bummer and religion , you mean to tell me that you don't find his connection to Wright quite troubling?
They're all worthless , different faces on the same coin of corruption. And frankly I'm not going to get 'looted' by either set of 'em , nor will I fall for their divide and conquer tactics that seek to divide the public along religious , racial and ideological lines.
That's a long list of "wont's" you got there, brother. What's on the WILL list? If you like to complain but not vote, then in my book that makes you part of the problem, not any part of a solution.
I vote- even if I have to hold my nose and choose who I believe to be the lesser of two evils, and then I patiently set out to educate all those who remain uninformed about their choices.
Your turn; not voting is basically removing yourself from the process, so that those who do involve themselves can step all over your rights. I realize that none of the current crop of candidates is very palatable, but look at this way; in the stupid shitstorm of amurrican politics, would anyone who really IS well qualified for the job actually want it? Perhaps that is the first thing that needs changing.
Did I say that I don't/won't vote? Or did I state specific candidates that I won't vote for? Why would you make such an assumption without prior inquiry?
A little perspective may be in order. I'm likely quite a degree older than you are Squig , I went through all this the first time around. Those of my age *saw* the movement corrupted and run away with , and now folks groomed by the folks who did so are deeply seated within the Halls of Power , for reference look to two of O'Bummers personal friends and advisors , who of course ripped off and ran away with the entire SDS and perverted it ( eventually) into the Weather Underground.
Folks who were bitching about the Establishment in '68 have BECOME The Establishment.
You said you wouldn't for for Obama, Romney, or Paul. You also said you wanted government to starve. You mentioned you'd like to see the whole thing collapse. Have a look around, buddy- it's in progress even as we speak.
I have seen revolution up close and personal and I'd rather vote.
I want you to really ask yourself the following:
Are you just a 2012 version of some old dude back in '68 who thought the same thing as you?
I might be just like the yuppies were then or whatever, but what if the problem back then was there were too many guys like you to put a stop to the bullshit. I'd argue that this very well could've been the case then--and that it almost certainly is now.
I'm young, and what the fuck do I know--but I think something different should happen. Obama isn't all the way different--but I think it'd be short sighted not to concede that he's done things no other president before him would've dared do--and he's done almost all of it without congress.
As before with better and worse--its not necessarily different, but its different-er.
I'm asking you to help me help the country take baby steps, not get it all done at once. Obama rather than Romney today, someone else rather than them next. The right decisions can't be to divide ourselves anymore when it comes to questions of core ideology (is Jesus your savior and Lord? No? Then vote for the guy who doesn't care if he is or not.) If we do this we're fucked already--as you say.
I don't want to believe this yet, but it's going to take people like you--not people like me--to make it happen.
Nope , I can say without doubt that I have little in common with the old crowd you refer to.
Look , I'm highly fatalistic at this point , if you can't stop human greed the exploitation and corruption will continue to run rampant , history proves that Greed in the ultimate addictive drug and virtually unstoppable.
And the system is now geared to produce drones that will march in somnambulent lockstep in accordance with the dictates of the 'powers that be'.
You're currently within the educational system , look around you , analyse what's *not* taught nowadays , what questions can't be asked , what's been rewritten.........ask yourself if much of our " educational system" in this country is not more correctly an eduindoctrinational system geared towards producing the aforementioned drones as opposed to Free Thinkers etc.
Control the flow of information , control the educational system , demonise the different , divide the populace along arbitrary lines and set them against each other , disarm the populace ( for their own good of course....).
Meanwhile our Halls of Power are inhabited by those who have nothing whatsoever in common with the " Common Man " , by those who hide in the highest offices disguised as something that they aren't.
On a more serious note , Batshit paul *IS* correct about one thing though , the stage is set for absolutely *massive* civil unrest , and it's being actively fomented in some quarters. The Inmates have gained thorough control of the Asylum and only the loudest , shrillest and most hyperbolic get heard.
And the system will NOT be reformed because it will get into the pockets of those who actually pull the strings , YOU are sheep to be preyed upon until such time as the sordid parasite finally kills the host. Unless of course you decide not to be " The Sheep" , that's a highly individual decision.
And sorry , but you're in error , decrepit , curmudgeonly old gits such as myself who are still cynically idealistic are NOT what might stand a chance in all of this , it's the generations coming up , as long as they're collectively willing to take nothing for granted and study beyond what the system has thrust down their throats.
You may well live to see the Balkanisation of America.
"divide the populace along arbitrary lines and set them against each other"
His " compassion" will magically appear 'long about the time Bayer , Novartis ,Monsanto et al start donating to his campaign behind the Sativex distribution rights.
I think there is.
I think one of em isn't made up of primarily bible thumpers. Simple as pie dude.
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I just hear/see a republican and the first thing I can tell about them is that they are aware of the lie they're telling. They're well educated, and they could give a damn about Jesus--Jesus is a tool for these dudes. Sure you can say the same thing about my side, but the point is that I don't particularly like Jesus or republicans ideas.
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To me, Christianity is the blinder which most people are wearing. If it were to disappear today as a religion I believe my point would be made for me--and that's why I stick to my guns on this one.
In this case it really is as simple to me as "all X are wrong."
and X are Christians.
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