Disco Duck said:

It's my understanding that it is actually the combination of MOAB and Hammerhead that is supposed to work exceptionally well. I wish I remember where I read that, but I've read a ton over the last year it's hard to keep track. I use GH with all the GH supplements, their "expert schedule". Finishing my first grow soon that is looking and smelling great, I read a lot about nutes a couple weeks ago seeing if I wanted to try something different the second time around. In the end I decided to stick with the full GH line, but replace liquid koolbloom with Hammerhead and dry kool bloom with MOAB. I'll use Hammerhead to replace liquid KB in the GH schedule, and then the combination of Hammerhead and MOAB to replace dry KB in the GH schedule. So I'll have to find that thread again about using Hammerhead and MOAB together to see the formula they were using.

If you keep searching you will eventually find this discussion of using Hammerhead together with MOAB. It is actually that combo that is supposed to yeild very good results.

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sky high said:

copped from another site and stored in my bookmarks:


MOAB consists of 3 ingredients which are listed on the package from largest proportion to least

1st is simply Mono-potassium phosphate which is known as MKP 0-52-34

2nd is Mono-Ammonium Phosphate, which is known as MAP and is 11-52-34

Lastly there is thiamine hydrochloride.

for 1kg of M**B you use 905.19 grams of MKP
90.81 grams of MAP
1.0 grams of thiamine hydrochloride

this will give you 1-52-34 with a .01% thiamine hydrochloride




sky did some quick searching. Cheaper prices may easily be found, I just grabbed the first stuff I saw that was the cheapest of the offerings that came up.

you can buy 50 POUNDS of MPK on the net...shipped...for $150

5 pounds of MAP ran $45 with shipping

The B-1 reagent is about $40 for 30 grams on Ebay

for $235 you can make just over 55 pounds of "MOAB". Cost per pound $ 4.27 !!!

Roughly, you can source these chems and mix it yourself for 1/10th the cost.

If you leave out the MAP you will only lose 1% N and you could cut the cost to $3.45 per lb.

you can also buy the MPK per pound...about $10....

good luck, all

s h

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sky high said:

C'mon kids....it ain't fuckin' rocket science! (thank Godd)

the "how to" on the homemade MOAB would be to >weigh out< (anyone remember toot?) the 3 components individually according to how much you wish to end up with/via the formula given...mix em together in a suitably sized vessel...put a lid on it...and shake/mix them together.

And YES.....it's the exact same shit as Bud Blaster (without the purty dye)

and the same as "Ton O' bud"...without the Phyloxine-G

And the same as Grotek "Monster Bloom"......without the dye.....and this may also nixx the B-1..... I WOULD HAVE TO DO A SEARCH FOR THE INFO (hint..hint)

Supernatural label... same ingredients as MOAB label

MANY other formulas are very close...Koolbloom...Bud Blood....yaddayaddayadda

good growin to yaz

s h

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primeform said:

Ive heard alot of people using overdrive and hammerhead in the final weeks of flower. Does moab replace the overdrive? All these finishers are confusing.

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