Yeah thats a good point. Also: would you rater go with less wider tables or more less wide tables (they are on rails so i dont need space in between). My partner is a small human (Whats the warranty you get with those is kinda where i think your making the savings
Imo less wide may provide for better air flow, easier pruning, provide more options on counts per strain and less weight if thats an issue. I take it you will be going with a SoG style grow?Yeah thats a good point. Also: would you rater go with less wider tables or more less wide tables (they are on rails so i dont need space in between). My partner is a small human () with short arms so i might go for the less wide tables to improve on workflow (and his well beeing after 12 hours of defoliating). Are there any pros you can think of when using wider tables ?
Thanks for all the input btw i love talking about this
HLG says you can run up to 100 Scorpions with an Autopilot PX2. Order the RJ 0-10v version instead of dimmer knobscorpion diablo is an option if no dimming required
Yeah they are really solid lights and the design will cover 4x5 better than a 5x5 just due to shape. They do need a bit more height than strip’s but not much maybe 4-6”. Spacing can be a but further as well because of that.HLG says you can run up to 100 Scorpions with an Autopilot PX2. Order the RJ 0-10v version instead of dimmer knob
This is the problem with most of the Chinese stuff.true but I think the chinese junk could potentially burn out and actually cost more in the long run , I would look out for a manufacturer that offers a good warranty
10 plants per 10,76sqft (i did a calculation from square meters to square feet), so roughly one plant per sqf. idk if you can call that a sog grow tho.Imo less wide may provide for better air flow, easier pruning, provide more options on counts per strain and less weight if thats an issue. I take it you will be going with a SoG style grow?
The larger and denser the canopy the more possibility of high humidity in n the middle of the rack. Depending on how well you maintain defoliation of your plants it may or may not be an issue. Its not just the airflow but the amount of humidity produced so defoliation is definitely key.10 plants per 10,76sqft (i did a calculation from square meters to square feet), so roughly one plant per sqf. idk if you can call that a sog grow tho.
is air flow even a problem when i use air distribution tubes? like these:
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I was planning on pushing the airconditioned air from the ceiling into the fans which then distribute it through the tubes over all the plants. it heats up, rises to the top and then it repeats.
that way i can easily distribute co2 in the room too.
two more quest units dehumidify everything the opticlimate can't handle and also blow in the direction of the distribution fans. i will have to do some calculation and stuff but thats the rough idea.
What size are the 2 quests you are looking at? What is the height of the grow racks above? 1 sq foot per plant is not enough in my opinion. What is your growing media? Most large scale is RW but just want to make sure.10 plants per 10,76sqft (i did a calculation from square meters to square feet), so roughly one plant per sqf. idk if you can call that a sog grow tho.
is air flow even a problem when i use air distribution tubes? like these:
View attachment 1259786View attachment 1259787
I was planning on pushing the airconditioned air from the ceiling into the fans which then distribute it through the tubes over all the plants. it heats up, rises to the top and then it repeats.
that way i can easily distribute co2 in the room too.
two more quest units dehumidify everything the opticlimate can't handle and also blow in the direction of the distribution fans. i will have to do some calculation and stuff but thats the rough idea.
Looks like a sweet setup man
To be honest this is not a cheap endeavor. I would say you are going to be into this for half to 1 million us dollars to get it up and running. Maybe more. It depends on the building and what is already existing.@Anthem I am actually planning on running 9 plants per square meter which is a little under one per square feet. How many plants are you running per sqf?
I will grow in rockwool cubes. Maybe i will try the small cubes with slabs but im not sure yet because ive never used them before and i really dont want to try shit out in my first run with that setup.
So to clarify:
I will start with two flower rooms with 50 lights on the lower rack of the two story rolling benches each. I want to get the two story ones so i can easily just expand with putting in more dehu's inside and more opticlimates on top of the rooms. This way i can safe money on rent (its expensive where im at and also not easy to find good real estate). I dont have to build another whole room out of sandwich panels.
The other 50 Lights are for veg and moms (i am not sure yet how many for veg and how many for moms, suggestions appreciated)
I was planning on using per room:
1 x 21kw Opticlimate (a friend told me they just releasing that unit, idk if he is talking about the revomax. if not ill add a small third unit)
1 x 15kw Opticlimate
2 x QUEST DUAL 205 units
I have about 20 feet ceiling height. so i need approx 1.5feet of free room on top for airflow purposes (diffusers sucking up hot air). should be plenty of room for the plants then.
i hope i got all the information in this post, sorry if I forgot something
thanks dude, I appreciate that, been a lot of thinking,planning and taking in other peoples information :) mostly from european cbd growers and its not even done yet. I am working on a proper CAD model of the whole facility before i start in about 6-12 months. irigation is still in planning stages too. i want to use growlink sensors for crop steering. their dosing system is super cool too (they are using H.E anderson dosers if i am not mistaken). talked to one of their technicians but i am running low on funds and thats why i am probably starting of with "just" their sensor/irrigation system.
Commecial standards for plant count is 9 plants for 48" x 48". If you add more you need better equipment, mold becomes a problem.@Anthem I am actually planning on running 9 plants per square meter which is a little under one per square feet. How many plants are you running per sqf?
I will grow in rockwool cubes. Maybe i will try the small cubes with slabs but im not sure yet because ive never used them before and i really dont want to try shit out in my first run with that setup.
So to clarify:
I will start with two flower rooms with 50 lights on the lower rack of the two story rolling benches each. I want to get the two story ones so i can easily just expand with putting in more dehu's inside and more opticlimates on top of the rooms. This way i can safe money on rent (its expensive where im at and also not easy to find good real estate). I dont have to build another whole room out of sandwich panels.
The other 50 Lights are for veg and moms (i am not sure yet how many for veg and how many for moms, suggestions appreciated)
I was planning on using per room:
1 x 21kw Opticlimate (a friend told me they just releasing that unit, idk if he is talking about the revomax. if not ill add a small third unit)
1 x 15kw Opticlimate
2 x QUEST DUAL 205 units
I have about 20 feet ceiling height. so i need approx 1.5feet of free room on top for airflow purposes (diffusers sucking up hot air). should be plenty of room for the plants then.
i hope i got all the information in this post, sorry if I forgot something
thanks dude, I appreciate that, been a lot of thinking,planning and taking in other peoples information :) mostly from european cbd growers and its not even done yet. I am working on a proper CAD model of the whole facility before i start in about 6-12 months. irigation is still in planning stages too. i want to use growlink sensors for crop steering. their dosing system is super cool too (they are using H.E anderson dosers if i am not mistaken). talked to one of their technicians but i am running low on funds and thats why i am probably starting of with "just" their sensor/irrigation system.
Yeah i am at about 700k rn in my excel sheet.To be honest this is not a cheap endeavor. I would say you are going to be into this for half to 1 million us dollars to get it up and running. Maybe more. It depends on the building and what is already existing.
What do you mean with better equipment? Even with proper dehumidification?If you add more you need better equipment, mold becomes a problem.
Does that include topping? Like 9 untopped plants?Commecial standards for plant count is 9 plants for 48" x 48"
Thats the thing USA doesnt make anything anymore except tik toks and tweets. I bought a cheap 240 watt board off alibaba almost 2 years ago still running strong.The times of "chinese junk" are long gone mate. They use the same chips and the same driver. All your fancy USA branded products are probably made in china too.
Jeez 3.3umol/JSamsung 301h EVO.
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Example of high red spectrum to manipulate efficiency rating and then you need to know if there was an actual sphere test done by a 3rd party or is it based on a flawed mathematical equation as almost all newer LED companies are doing?Jeez 3.3umol/J
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