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Snaggleroots

Snaggleroots

Pattie cakes? ;)
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beluga

beluga

So, it all depends - very basically - on how much substrate you're trying to 'sterilize' and the properties of said substrate.
Since 1/2 pint of hydrated brown rice flour and vermiculite are very... open?? ingredients, they can more easily transfer the steam heat from normal boiling at atmospheric pressures.
Not so much with a seed hull.
You can also go the Tyndallization route, but that requires a very regimented method that is easily compromised and, again, not necessarily effective on certain ingredients.
 
Dirtbag

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Any of you guys in Canada? Im looking for a reliable source of spore syringes.

I've been lurking here long enough, this is going down. Gonna skip the pf and go straight to oats and bulk to horse poop and vermiculite.
Already planning out a mini greenhouse build with temp and humidity control.

Also where are you guys getting the injection sites for the jar lids? I've also seen folks do the inoculation in bags too, anyone use bags instead of jars? Seems better for breaking up the oats before spawning into the poop.
 
Odiesel

Odiesel

Any of you guys in Canada? Im looking for a reliable source of spore syringes.

I've been lurking here long enough, this is going down. Gonna skip the pf and go straight to oats and bulk to horse poop and vermiculite.
Already planning out a mini greenhouse build with temp and humidity control.

Also where are you guys getting the injection sites for the jar lids? I've also seen folks do the inoculation in bags too, anyone use bags instead of jars? Seems better for breaking up the oats before spawning into the poop.
sounds awesome man! i've watched a few youtube vids on just reg edible mushroom growing and they've always used bags not sure if it had to do with the crop size or not.
 
Dirtbag

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I don't think.. I just watched a video where a guy grew a decent amount of shrooms with about 4 bags of oats. I just like that you can squish it around to really break apart the individual oats before dumping them out. Seems less likely to get contaminated that way. And honestly just easier than jars.
 
beluga

beluga

Skip the horse poo for now. Thank me later.
Also, you said you're looking to keep expenses down, so I'd say just supplement the verm to reach field capacity and use primarily coir... reckon you might have some around anyway? Multipurpose.
I know it may sound intimidating, but definitely look into working on agar to make a clean culture... it saves you from so much contamination and headache and it really is accessible to anyone... even those with shaky hands. This will keep you from having to worry about using fundamentally dirty spore syringes and injection ports, etc.
Monotubs/shoeboxes are also a much more self contained and set and forget method than greenhouses/"marthas" (vivariums). I know, I know... you want to control and monitor every little thing, but wait to do that until you've got the hang of it and want to try different species like pans.
Uhh... maybe there's more.. I'm a little drunk and wildly tapping at my phone.

Oh, bags are more advanced and necessitate a larger sterile working area, more equipment, and, unlike jars, they are disposable and wasteful. Great for oysters and massive psychoactive grows, not really for small grows. By 'small', I mean easily pounds per month with just a dozen or two quart mason jars.
 
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Odiesel

Odiesel

Skip the horse poo for now. Thank me later.
Also, you said you're looking to keep expenses down, so I'd say just supplement the verm to reach field capacity and use primarily coir... reckon you might have some around anyway? Multipurpose.
I know it may sound intimidating, but definitely look into working on agar to make a clean culture... it saves you from so much contamination and headache and it really is accessible to anyone... even those with shaky hands. This will keep you from having to worry about using fundamentally dirty spore syringes and injection ports, etc.
Monotubs/shoeboxes are also a much more self contained and set and forget method than greenhouses/"marthas" (vivariums). I know, I know... you want to control and monitor every little thing, but wait to do that until you've got the hang of it and want to try different species like pans.
Uhh... maybe there's more.. I'm a little drunk and wildly tapping at my phone.
I just want to taste some haha and i am a bit drunk myself.
Yall got me talking to a local homie about some shrooms so i can at least try some for the first time
 
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