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Could have some bacteria on there, but they look pretty good from here!So close, there are a few that appear fully colonized now and a few that are almost full. Only one that is way behind is the one i didnt shake.
They seem to be doing some heavy breathing in the jars. the two that look fully colonized have some moisture building up on the glass in the jar, and the grains have sort of contracted away from the edge of the jar and become a clump that moves around easily if i tilt the jar.View attachment 1065686
temps are about 70f outside the jars. And it certainly looks like condensation, its well above the grain on bare glass and looks just like it was misted with a sprayer. Could be bacteria too i suppose, i dont really know enough to tell the difference.Could have some bacteria on there, but they look pretty good from here!
How's your room temp that they live in?
They'll pump out at least a few degrees F warmer while metabolizing, but I've heard up to 10ºF.. so it could just be normal condensation.
The only way to know for sure is to take a bit to agar and see what grows.temps are about 70f outside the jars. And it certainly looks like condensation, its well above the grain on bare glass and looks just like it was misted with a sprayer. Could be bacteria too i suppose, i dont really know enough to tell the difference.
The only way to know for sure is to take a bit to agar and see what grows.
Otherwise, it's just knowing the characteristics of the mycelium growth.. which can vary from variety to variety and even strain to strain. But, in general, marshmallowy growth is pretty indicative of bacterial infections.. yours don't look marshmallowy from what I can see. Fluffy, yeah, but that can be totally normal.
Lol I spent the last 20 mins trying to find examples of marshmallowy Bacteria infected spawn... to no avail.
Im way TF out of my element here. It's all white fuzz man.. Its all white fuzz
Fwiw the grain itself looks very dry and loose, not wet or clumpy at all.
Anyway, ill be tossing it into coir to see what happens one way or another.
Awesome thank you. Ive seen a lot of pics that look like that, didnt know it was related to bacteria. Yeah none of mine look like that. The mycellium in mine is very clear and defined. Stringy looking if anything up close. And nowhere near that much moisture, or any moisture visible in the grains themselves, only on the glass above the more colonized grains.
See how it's a thick mat? Whereas yours is like a pom pom on a hat.
Yeah, those bags are super fucked for a variety of reasons.. bacterial inhibition, poorly prepped grain, and those bags are probably too full (at least for that poorly prepped grain) - causing anaerobic conditions... and that's just from my visual observation.. I nabbed this image off google.Awesome thank you. Ive seen a lot of pics that look like that, didnt know it was related to bacteria. Yeah none of mine look like that. The mycellium in mine is very clear and defined. Stringy looking if anything up close. And nowhere near that much moisture, or any moisture visible in the grains themselves, only on the glass above the more colonized grains.
I just, you know.. first time jitters. Im being reminded what it feels like to be a total noob at something that is fairly complicated.
Thanks for the tips..
So is that marshmallow looking shit mycellium still or whats going on there? Is it just piling up on itself because it cant spread out or what?
I'm going to become a new proud papa and birth my first ever jars, maybe tonight. Birthing, Fruiting... a lot different than popping a pill into the dirt and waiting 6 months!Lol I spent the last 20 mins trying to find examples of marshmallowy Bacteria infected spawn... to no avail.
Im way TF out of my element here. It's all white fuzz man.. Its all white fuzz
Fwiw the grain itself looks very dry and loose, not wet or clumpy at all.
Anyway, ill be tossing it into coir to see what happens one way or another.
Nice man!
Can you explain to me what scares you about the jar?Nice man!
I'm still a little scared of that jar.. but I've seen some rough stuff top fruit like that pretty well.
Tub looks like it should produce for you, but time will tell if something beats it to the chase.
How did it smell when spawning? Any sweetness?
Mostly the shade and growth characteristics of it. It's got a kind of grey tinge.. which could just be lighting, picture, or some other benign factor.. but coud also easily mean mold. Likewise with the growth - it's got a lot of inconsistent wispiness going on which is often due to mold. Inconsistencies, in general, are usually a good indication of numerous things growing on the substrate... again... many factors going into that, but, in my experience it's usually indicative of mold. What you're looking for is a consistent vibrant white all throughout. Cubensis mycelium can be kind of wispy... but in a different way... more fluffy than wispy.Can you explain to me what scares you about the jar?
I did not smell, what smell characteristics am I looking for when the jar is spawning?
Good? Bad?
I'm a proud Papa! I birthed 5 jars yesterday as the 6th jar never reallygot going and appears to be contaminated, so the 5 remaining were birthed into a yub of water for a day then off to their fresh perlite bed, sitting on a piece of aluminum foil to keep the cakes and perlite separate. I was a bit worried after reading about the different appearance of the mycelium... puffy, stringy, etc. @beluga mentioned the smell and when I birthed the babies yesterday and today, there was a very distinct "mushroom" smell, nothing sour or grainy. I left the lid on the tub slightly loose... it should be loose enough to allow some gases to exchange but tight enough to keep humidity near 100. The cakes were pretty solid... I was surprised how solid they became. I expected them to absorb a lot of water during the soak, but it actually seemed almost waterproof and I had to weigh them down a bit.As far as smell... it's just that good mushroom smell. Like walking through a forest or a nice rich soil alive with mycorrhizae.
Bad ones are sweet, musty, or sour. If it smells like beer wort or mash... there's bacteria. If it smells like old basement or a rotting farmhouse... there's mold.
Awesome man!I'm a proud Papa! I birthed 5 jars yesterday as the 6th jar never reallygot going and appears to be contaminated, so the 5 remaining were birthed into a yub of water for a day then off to their fresh perlite bed, sitting on a piece of aluminum foil to keep the cakes and perlite separate. I was a bit worried after reading about the different appearance of the mycelium... puffy, stringy, etc. @beluga mentioned the smell and when I birthed the babies yesterday and today, there was a very distinct "mushroom" smell, nothing sour or grainy. I left the lid on the tub slightly loose... it should be loose enough to allow some gases to exchange but tight enough to keep humidity near 100. The cakes were pretty solid... I was surprised how solid they became. I expected them to absorb a lot of water during the soak, but it actually seemed almost waterproof and I had to weigh them down a bit.
I appreciate everyone's advice in this great project. I tried once before in the 70s but never got more than a 1/4" square of mycelium (please forgive my ignorance of the proper spelling and terminiology... I don't know the difference between a mycelium and a mycorrhizae!). An mostly a big thank you to @beluga, who helped to shine a light thru the haze.
No sweetness smells like dirt/deep forest next to the cedar tree rotting away.Nice man!
I'm still a little scared of that jar.. but I've seen some rough stuff top fruit like that pretty well.
Tub looks like it should produce for you, but time will tell if something beats it to the chase.
How did it smell when spawning? Any sweetness?
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