Mushroom thread

1diesel1 · Jul 3, 2020

stoneyluv said:
pics of your glove box never gets old!!!

a buddy of mine upgraded his sandblaster and is gonna give me his old one... i was gonna just use it as a sandblaster but man now you got me thinking!!!!!

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did you remember to wipe and dry the top lip of your jars before putting the dry layer of verm in?

All jars get sterilized lids on and don’t get touched until they go directly into the glove box.

cemchris · Jul 3, 2020

1diesel1 said:
Could be, but I’m very diligent about cleanliness when it comes time to inject the spores.
I do everything in here. Everything and I mean everything is whipped down with isopropyl and cleaned.View attachment 995176 View attachment 995178

Now that is tits man. First time Ive seen that done with a sand blaster.

needshelpguy · Jul 3, 2020

Im keen to get started on this, question is do they smell much?

LittleDabbie · Jul 4, 2020

needshelpguy said:
Im keen to get started on this, question is do they smell much?

No, I mean when you pressure cook jars that smells like whatever your cooking, but the shrooms no very little smell less you stick your head in and take a whiff then it just smells like mold..

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 4, 2020

1diesel1 said:
Could be, but I’m very diligent about cleanliness when it comes time to inject the spores.
I do everything in here. Everything and I mean everything is whipped down with isopropyl and cleaned.View attachment 995176 View attachment 995178

That box is pretty sweet looking. Much better than what i use. However I would lose the gloves, and just use gloved hands. Attaching gloves in this way stirs up more contams as you create suction, and pressure inside the box by moving around grabbing things. It's also way easier to do your work that way.

A few things to consider working in a still air box, would be that nothing in there is sterile. Spray it out with Lysol etc then mist with water. The water on the inside walls will help capture contams from falling in your work. Keep your work off the bottom. I use a damp towel with cookie racks on top. Make sure it's in a room with still air. Close the window/door shut off the heat/a.c. etc. Always flame and cool syringes between jars. Use tinfoil to cover your jar lids during pc cycle and only remove in still air box.

When working inside a still air box slow, deliberate movements are key. Try not to create drafts with movement etc.

revfunk · Jul 4, 2020

DistyDemon said:
Mushies scare you, but you'll take lsd?

Lsd = 8-12 hrs "madness"
Mushies 4-6 hrs of waves.

I've eaten 10x more acid than most. I'd gladly take mushies vs acid any day now.

Yup. I've dosed hundreds of times, sometimes 20-40 doses at a time. I'd prefer 10-20 grams of mushies anyday!!!!

stoneyluv · Jul 14, 2020

so i have started to gather some supplies to start my very first bulk substrate and mono tub!!!!! i kind of got taken for a sucker on a $15 bag of 5lbs of grains... turns out i can get a 50lb bag of oats for $14!!! i won't b making that mistake again.

the jars were on sale for $9 a pack... i prefer the wide mouth but they didn't have any... folks like the regular mouth for moonshine so if i pick up wide mouths in the future i'll just use these for shine!!!

i picked up a couple tubs, not the huge one just the mid size to get started. i ordered a few goodies online too... some polyfill, gypsum, injection ports, and some syringe filters because i would like to give liquid culture a shot.

i'm pretty excited about it so i'm gonna get started in a few days!!!!

My brf cakes are still colonizing. i may soak them in the next few days, i saw a pin on just two of the jars so i'll be patient.

i may use the second round of brf cakes to grow a mono tub with, not decided yet...

1diesel1 · Jul 14, 2020

Almost there:)

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 14, 2020

stoneyluv said:
so i have started to gather some supplies to start my very first bulk substrate and mono tub!!!!! i kind of got taken for a sucker on a $15 bag of 5lbs of grains... turns out i can get a 50lb bag of oats for $14!!! i won't b making that mistake again.

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the jars were on sale for $9 a pack... i prefer the wide mouth but they didn't have any... folks like the regular mouth for moonshine so if i pick up wide mouths in the future i'll just use these for shine!!!

i picked up a couple tubs, not the huge one just the mid size to get started. i ordered a few goodies online too... some polyfill, gypsum, injection ports, and some syringe filters because i would like to give liquid culture a shot.

i'm pretty excited about it so i'm gonna get started in a few days!!!!

My brf cakes are still colonizing. i may soak them in the next few days, i saw a pin on just two of the jars so i'll be patient.

i may use the second round of brf cakes to grow a mono tub with, not decided yet...

For sure you got taken, lesson learned. For coco try to get the big 5kg brick at the grow store. Mine has em for 10 bux.

stoneyluv · Jul 14, 2020

HeLLfiReZ said:
For sure you got taken, lesson learned. For coco try to get the big 5kg brick at the grow store. Mine has em for 10 bux.

yeah when i realized it a couple days ago i felt like goober!!!

thanks for the coco tip, that is the one thing i didn't have to buy this time, i buy those 5kg bricks for my worm farm though. i only get it once every couple years so i'm sure i'll be using more of it now.

HeLLfiReZ, i wanted to ask you a couple questions about your tek... you mentioned that after a harvest you dunk your tub in water to re hydrate it.... is that for a second flush?

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 15, 2020

stoneyluv said:
yeah when i realized it a couple days ago i felt like goober!!!

thanks for the coco tip, that is the one thing i didn't have to buy this time, i buy those 5kg bricks for my worm farm though. i only get it once every couple years so i'm sure i'll be using more of it now.

HeLLfiReZ, i wanted to ask you a couple questions about your tek... you mentioned that after a harvest you dunk your tub in water to re hydrate it.... is that for a second flush?

Yes, you can get 4 to 5 flushes if your mycelium is strong, and contam free. If I get 2 good flushes I'm happy.

I will usually judge it like a soil plant. I know how heavy when spawned and fully hydrated. After a flush I lift the tub, if really light I dunk. If they are still fairly heavy (usually a mediocre flush) I pull back the liner and bottom water.

stoneyluv · Jul 15, 2020

HeLLfiReZ said:
Yes, you can get 4 to 5 flushes if your mycelium is strong, and contam free. If I get 2 good flushes I'm happy.

I will usually judge it like a soil plant. I know how heavy when spawned and fully hydrated. After a flush I lift the tub, if really light I dunk. If they are still fairly heavy (usually a mediocre flush) I pull back the liner and bottom water.

four or five?!?!?! oh you got my tail wagging on that one!!! i didn't realize mono tubs gave more than one flush so yeah i'd be stoked with just two.

thanks so much for the info man!!!

Deadstill · Jul 18, 2020

Allegedly I can get mushrooms in Denver for my PTSD.. I am highly interested!

stoneyluv · Jul 21, 2020

I had a fun time making my very first grain jars the other day!!! i washed and soaked the grains overnight along with coffee and gypsum. then the next day i simmered it all for about 20 minutes or so, stained them off and poured them out onto a kitchen towel spread em all out even and waited till they didn't stick to my fingers then filled up the jars and pressure cooked them for over 90 minutes at fifteen psi. the next day i inoculated them with my favorite strain Golden Teacher. I also made up a jar to try out liquid culture, just corn syrup and water with a syringe filter and injection port on the lid with a marble inside to stir things up!!

I made five quart jars in total, four of them for a mono tub and one just to try out grain to grain transfer. I'm stoked because in just two days i have mycelium growing already!!!

and i'm pretty sure the brf cakes are fully colonized. i brought them out of the dark yesterday hoping that they start to pin before i birth them....

but having a lot of fun with the new hobby!!!!!!

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 21, 2020

Looking good, those cakes about ready to pop.

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 28, 2020

I have been pretty slack lately. But i have some agar and grain on the go.Grabbed 50kg of whole oats for $30 to try out.

stoneyluv · Jul 28, 2020

HeLLfiReZ said:
I have been pretty slack lately. But i have some agar and grain on the go.Grabbed 50kg of whole oats for $30 to try out.

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Ahhhh yeah!!! soakin the oats!!!!! i won't be too far behind you this time, i plan to start my second batch at the end of this week.

HeLLfiReZ, I have another question for you, i believe you mentioned that you used four jars of spawn for your size tubs... . i have a couple different tubs here at home that are both at least 12 inches tall but with different footprints on the bottom. so my question is: what is the bottom footprint size of your tubs?

i have one that is 11" x 12" (28cm x 30cm) and another that is 11" x 16" (28cm x 40cm) i would like to use the one that matches yours the closest so i have a proper recipe to start with and will adjust from there the next time.

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my grain jars are doing well so far, i've been breaking them up almost every day... keeping a close eye on contams too... i didn't use a glove box or flow hood at all this last time. instead, i used my small guest bathroom and put all the jars and needle and torch and stuff on the counter then i ran my large ozone generator in there for abut an hour, the entire room was a haze of ozone when i slipped in... held my breath and quick shot up all the jars!!! then i left and waited a half hour or so to go back in and grab the finished jars.

so far so good, no nastys detected yet....

and my liquid culture jar is doing it's thing.....

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I have the brf cakes in my fruiting box... i have a fan and fogger on it so i don't need to fan and spray at all... but they're growing some little chubbies!!!

thanks for the help!!!!!!

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 28, 2020

Looks like things are on their way. You got some shrooms happening. I will measure my tubs tommorow.

No need to break up the mycelium daily. I usually let a good sized chunk start then shake once. When you break it up it takes a day to kinda repair itself before it takes off again. With lc i inject then shake right away and that's all it needs usually.

As for contams it looks good. You will really find out when you spawn to coir. If your tubs contam before the first flush you had dirty spawn. If not your doing something right.

HeLLfiReZ · Jul 29, 2020

Here is the tub size you were after.
That size is perfect for the 650g coir recipe. Next size up doubles it, size after is triple.

stoneyluv · Jul 29, 2020

HeLLfiReZ said:
Looks like things are on their way. You got some shrooms happening. I will measure my tubs tommorow.

No need to break up the mycelium daily. I usually let a good sized chunk start then shake once. When you break it up it takes a day to kinda repair itself before it takes off again. With lc i inject then shake right away and that's all it needs usually.

As for contams it looks good. You will really find out when you spawn to coir. If your tubs contam before the first flush you had dirty spawn. If not your doing something right.

I totally understand about not breaking them up often... i was just excited. i'll leave em be for a while.

and i gotcha on the contam not showing till tub time... maybe i won't start the next batch till after the tub produces without issue before i try the ozone in the bathroom again. i could always go back to the glove box.. that thing is so hard to see through..

i appreciate your help man... thank you!!!!!

HeLLfiReZ said:
Here is the tub size you were after.
That size is perfect for the 650g coir recipe. Next size up doubles it, size after is triple.

thanks, those are close to the same measurements of the tops of mine... i have four that are 30 quart, i plan to add a couple quarts of left over vermiculite in the coir any extra i may have after one tub i will use for my worm farm so no waste anyway...

i could also use the grains i made for a grain to grain deal but with the liquid culture working i may just stick with that and not do any grain to grain, or maybe move on to just agar... time will tell, but if i needed extra grain spawn in the tub it wouldn't break my heart to use the fifth jar.

thanks again man!!!

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