Mushroom thread

gristle · Nov 13, 2022

Yeah, I am gonna keep this classified as pro style.
So what is easier to grow cannabis or mushrooms?
Always wanted to try my hand but they are almost abundant in my pastures.
And what makes horse manure the best? I've always noticed here that they grow in horse and cow manure but seem more prevalent in the latter.

1diesel1 · Nov 13, 2022

If your pastures are here in oregun,
We should become best friends!
I will pick for you 40/60 split!! Lol!!!
Shrooms are way harder, contamination is your worst enemy.
Weed, bugs are easier to maintain but one speck of dust and your done with it, throw it away

Moshmen · Nov 13, 2022

1diesel1 said:
If your pastures are here in oregun,
We should become best friends!
I will pick for you 40/60 split!! Lol!!!
Shrooms are way harder, contamination is your worst enemy.
Weed, bugs are easier to maintain but one speck of dust and your done with it, throw it away

People say they can pick here almost year round, depends on the rain - they say the best “season” is march april and may. Wish I felt confident what I was picking?

tobh · Nov 15, 2022

1diesel1 said:
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nice impulse sealer. specs, plz?

gristle said:
Yeah, I am gonna keep this classified as pro style.
So what is easier to grow cannabis or mushrooms?
Always wanted to try my hand but they are almost abundant in my pastures.
And what makes horse manure the best? I've always noticed here that they grow in horse and cow manure but seem more prevalent in the latter.

i didn't learn to "grow" until I grew mushrooms. dunno, something clicked with me. i've (knock on glass) never had issues with bugs. plenty with botrytis and PM, but after starting with my first monotub -- i never did well with the PF tek bullshit. Bulk style baby. Anyways, once I locked down aseptic technique and was producing enough for myself and friends, the cannabis game was on lock. maybe attention to detail, maybe profuse amounts of psilocybin, maybe it's natural.

EDIT: re-read, no condescension intended. making a marketing joke.

1diesel1 · Nov 16, 2022

Go with the wider one!

Amazon.com : 12 inch impulse sealer

Variety719 · Nov 16, 2022

1diesel1 said:
Clean closet!
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Teachers! Teachers!

ImpulsiveGrower · Nov 16, 2022

Moshmen said:
Still warm enuff here if we get the rain next week might be worth cking the pastures? Lmao until then ima finish a trip on dispo edibles- theses bars are some of the best I’ve ever ate. 1/2 Bar and everything is alright ! Have a great nite fellas

I’ve heard those are super send some my way fam

gristle · Nov 16, 2022

Moshmen said:
People say they can pick here almost year round, depends on the rain - they say the best “season” is march april and may. Wish I felt confident what I was picking?

Spot on. Harder this time of year, they like more cover and the stems don't grow tall.
Go to app store: picture mushroom

NotFrankster · Nov 16, 2022

Please identify fellas....

One of them are the smallest ones I've ever seen.... Note the quarter for size reference

These are oysters growing at the top of the land I think... Growing out of the logs

These are a mystery...

Swagmasterflex · Nov 17, 2022

NotFrankster said:
Please identify fellas....

One of them are the smallest ones I've ever seen.... Note the quarter for size reference

These are oysters growing at the top of the land I think... Growing out I believe the little white ones are fairy parachutes. Cool find!

tobh · Nov 18, 2022

three days post transfer, lookin good. psilocybe cyanescens don't fuck around, imagine by next weekend will need to be doing the next set of transfers then start prepping grain.

goal with these is to build up ~50lbs of wood chip spawn by spring to spawn an outdoor bed. might've jumped the gun a bit but am planning for contingencies with contamination and slower colonization rates on wood.

GrowHobo · Nov 18, 2022

tobh said:
three days post transfer, lookin good. psilocybe cyanescens don't fuck around, imagine by next weekend will need to be doing the next set of transfers then start prepping grain.

goal with these is to build up ~50lbs of wood chip spawn by spring to spawn an outdoor bed. might've jumped the gun a bit but am planning for contingencies with contamination and slower colonization rates on wood.

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I hope you plan to continue to keep us updated on progress. You can’t just drop a tease like that lol

tobh · Nov 18, 2022

GrowHobo said:
I hope you plan to continue to keep us updated on progress. You can’t just drop a tease like that lol

i'll do my best haha i'm not looking forward to the prep work for the bed. Have about 12" of matted ivy I have to chew through with a weed eater, then plan on digging a 3'x8'x3' trench that will then be layered with hardwood chips, spawn, and cardboard. The idea is to create a permanent culture.

By next spring, I hope to have spawn for oysters, wine caps, wavy caps, shitakes, maitakes, and lion's mane, all destined for setting up a full permaculture system around the property. Psilocybes are just my first love, and the easiest ime, so figured break teeth on learning agar with them and the rest are way more aggressive colonizers anyways, so they can wait.

NotFrankster · Nov 19, 2022

tobh said:
i'll do my best haha i'm not looking forward to the prep work for the bed. Have about 12" of matted ivy I have to chew through with a weed eater, then plan on digging a 3'x8'x3' trench that will then be layered with hardwood chips, spawn, and cardboard. The idea is to create a permanent culture.

By next spring, I hope to have spawn for oysters, wine caps, wavy caps, shitakes, maitakes, and lion's mane, all destined for setting up a full permaculture system around the property. Psilocybes are just my first love, and the easiest ime, so figured break teeth on learning agar with them and the rest are way more aggressive colonizers anyways, so they can wait.

Yeah I want to do the same thing brother

There already growing up there... So just need to spawn more things that can survive.... Maybe some more magnesium sulfate and gypsum....

Probably more in oysters and Shitakes than growing cannabis these days

tobh · Nov 21, 2022

NotFrankster said:
Yeah I want to do the same thing brother

There already growing up there... So just need to spawn more things that can survive.... Maybe some more magnesium sulfate and gypsum....

Probably more in oysters and Shitakes than growing cannabis these days

Yeah, I've been doing market research on the viability of small scale mushroom farms. I'm thinking the best approach is a hybrid one wherein growing microgreens alongside mushrooms could easily yield a lower-mid six figure income so long the right mushroom varieties are selected for use. Profit margins on producing tinctures and extracts are even higher.

So, for example with some spitball numbers. Cost of production for 15lbs of maitake mushrooms would be ~$30. If sold as fruit bodies, you can net $18/lb depending on market. In tincture form, one ounce bottles sell for ~$40, upwards of $60 if you do higher strength (which requires more fruit body weight). So, 1lb per extract bottle sold @ $40 could net $600. Not too shabby. Again those numbers are mostly spitball figures based off the research I've done so far.

Microgreens is a whole other discussion in of itself. Some small producers are able to gross mid six figure incomes out of their basements, and operating a microgreen farm costs a fraction of what other conventional crops do while being able to increase crop density exponentially since you don't need as much space.

All that being said, the investments I'm making in this hobby now are more about trying to (a) give my family some protection from uncertain economies [eg, diversify income streams instead of relying on one] and (b) eventually be able to quit my job and become a good steward of the land while gaining a huge improvement in quality of life since I won't be "employed" anymore. It also really helps that my lady is interested in learning all things mycology and wants to start contributing to the household. This means there's opportunity to truly see how teamwork makes the dream work.

tobh · Nov 22, 2022

Not a pic update, but the PC plates are looking solid for the most part. Have a couple starting to develop potential sectors of interest. I'm confident the fast moving PC's will do fine, so long they don't show bacteria before colonizing the plates in full, they'll be chopped up and made into liquid inoculant for master grain jars.

The APE has three plates out of eight that are aggressive and fast. The rest are slow, so I'll be taking transfer of those to T2 and letting plates run to fruition and transferring whatever knots form.

Aztec gold... oh the motherfucker that sold me that spore syringe... i don't know what they sold me but every single plate has had bacterial growth. From streaking to just dropping a single drop in the center of a plate, every single plate has contamed. I had one plate produce something resembling cubensis mycelium, and took clones of that mycelium. Doesn't look anything like typical cubensis mycelium, it's light and wispy, but it resembles what I know and hasn't sporulated like mold would've by now. it's aggressive and rhizomorphic too, so maybe it's what he put the label on it as instead of straight bacteria.

Treasure Coast.. alright, so I scraped the gills off a dried cap onto a plate, fully expecting contam city. this shit has exploded. Took transfers Sunday and the transfers are looking to be taking quite well.

I just picked up food coloring, so I'll be making at least another 40 plates over the holiday weekend. With get some pan plates going and give the azures another chance. I got the aztec gold from the same person that I got the azures from and when I tried MS on grain with the azures, every single jar went bacterial, so my hopes are non-existent.

As I said, I'm planning on getting into the gourmet medicinal, and actives progressively get harder to grow from cubensis to pan to wood lovers, so working on refining my techniques on the low bar to prep for the high bar. Will be ordering spawn for a variety of medicinals which will be cultured, then spread across bags once my flow hood is built.

Sizing the blower for my filter is proving harder than expected though. I'm a fuckin engineer and can't figure out this clandestine math, let alone figure out how these fucks are comfortable saying "eh, it's good enough" without the metrics to back it up. Not really interested in dropping $1k+ on this build for it to not produce laminar flow, or worse, blast contaminates at 400fpm right into the sterile media I'm trying to make.

Before y'all get excited, most of this work will never be spawned to substrate. This is all an exercise in refining aseptic technique and preparing for the real show. Until our government stops locking up 70 year old men for picking unknown mushrooms for taxonomy, it's best to edge without blowing your load.

Swagmasterflex · Nov 25, 2022

Did some agar work on a GT MSS and ART LC on 11/19. I think everything looks good so far lol

tobh · Nov 25, 2022

Swagmasterflex said:
Did some agar work on a GT MSS and ART LC on 11/19. I think everything looks good so far lol

looking promising! do you pour your own plates or buy pre-poured?

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