My First Grow

Broken · May 12, 2017

Well Tomorrow I will try some new parts and see if I can get this water going right (35 miles to Lowes)

Other than changing out the MH for the HPS I worked on the second room.

The second room just had the cuts on the floor with 2 6500k T5 over them24/7. I Built a shelf and and hung 600w MH up and turn it down to 300w and put them under that.

How high over these 10" plants should I keep the light ? I plan on topping them soon and bumping the lights to 450w in a week or so.

I hope all is well with Everyone

jipp · May 12, 2017

i saw your bean pole. hah.. you did better than me.
if i would of known potassium was the first sign of cal-mag lock out, i could of saved her but shit happens.
im starting another one.. hah.

when did you switch to 12/12 on her?

chris.

almost forgot, hoping you are having a good evening. ( no never nind me im high as fuck )

Broken · May 12, 2017

jipp said:
i saw your bean pole. hah.. you did better than me.
if i would of known potassium was the first sign of cal-mag lock out, i could of saved her but shit happens.
im starting another one.. hah.

when did you switch to 12/12 on her?

chris.

almost forgot, hoping you are having a good evening. ( no never nind me im high as fuck )

I flipped the big ones at 1 am the 10th. its running 86 degrees in the room and probably 90 in the smaller room its air is pulled thru the first room it has 16 clones and 2 auto in it all around 10 inches.

They had all been under 2 T5. They have some of the most wild ass growth. Some have 3 fans per node some have 5 nodes but some nodes only have fan leafs. Bunch of confused plants.

I didn't get an answer on how close I could safely put the lights to the clones that had only been under the T5. So I left it at 25" or so and they looked good. So I bumped the light from 300w to 450w today. I have topped most if they showed 4 nodes with more than fan leafs.

1 or 2 have crazy fans every where with nothing else really. I trimmed a few to let some light thru hoping to see something besides fans.

Hope your having a good night. I have not been high in 3 weeks. But still a happy farmer.

Broken · May 13, 2017

I hope Everyone takes a moment to read the article if you have not read it I hope you find it as interesting as I did. @rmoltis keep the black pepper next to your goods for us light weights :D https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabi...old-item-could-counteract-your-cannabis-induc

rmoltis · May 13, 2017

Broken said:
I hope Everyone takes a moment to read the article if you have not read it I hope you find it as interesting as I did. @rmoltis keep the black pepper next to your goods for us light weights :D https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabi...old-item-could-counteract-your-cannabis-induc

Lol, I give my friends stern warnings.
Most just don't believe me.

The beast that is %30 resin by weight just destroys people :)

Broken · May 13, 2017

rmoltis said:
Lol, I give my friends stern warnings.
Most just don't believe me.

The beast that is %30 resin by weight just destroys people :)

I was young and dumb once, believed I wanted the highest THC I could get until I ate a brownie made from a volcano left over. It MADE me lay down and go to sleep and gave me a hangover the next day.

Broken · May 14, 2017

Hello everyone @incogneato
@EventHorizan @rmoltis @iKharon @BarnaGoat @DrMcSkunkins @jumpincactus @jipp and anyone else strolling through

Has anyone ever panicked when looking at their plants for the first time under HPS ?

How much water should a 5 gallon smart pot with a 27" plant take? I'm in soil with a good bit of large pearlite. I get runoff at 1 gallon but they seam to get dry quick, 3 day 4 at most. Not enough water? Watering to fast causing runoff without soil saturation?

I'm thinking I am going to need to slow the roll of these plants or run out of room if the double there height in stretch.

rmoltis · May 14, 2017

Broken said:
Hello everyone @incogneato
@EventHorizan @rmoltis @iKharon @BarnaGoat @DrMcSkunkins @jumpincactus @jipp and anyone else strolling through

Has anyone ever panicked when looking at their plants for the first time under HPS ?

How much water should a 5 gallon smart pot with a 27" plant take? I'm in soil with a good bit of large pearlite. I get runoff at 1 gallon but they seam to get dry quick, 3 day 4 at most. Not enough water? Watering to fast causing runoff without soil saturation?

I'm thinking I am going to need to slow the roll of these plants or run out of room if the double there height in stretch.

My 5 gallon beast clone was taking .75 gallon to fully saturate completely dry soil.

I would remove from tent onto a catch pan. Water with full amount. Once runoff is done. collect runoff then add to the soil again for maximum saturation. If any runoff is left after the second time discard since the soil is full.

3-4 days to dry is pretty good.
Ultimately the faster the drying time the better since more o2 gets to the roots. The only drawback is the constant maintenance watering becomes more of a pain in the butt.

I prefer 2-3 days for the soil to dry during watering, but as short as 1-2 days has fell upon me with good results. I would make it shorter but would have to setup an auto drip system for multiple waterings per day.

As of now with work and hand waterings. Anything less than 2 days becomes risky for me if they overdry at an inopportune time.

Broken · May 14, 2017

rmoltis said:
My 5 gallon beast clone was taking .75 gallon to fully saturate completely dry soil.

I would remove from tent onto a catch pan. Water with full amount. Once runoff is done. collect runoff then add to the soil again for maximum saturation. If any runoff is left after the second time discard since the soil is full.

3-4 days to dry is pretty good.
Ultimately the faster the drying time the better since more o2 gets to the roots. The only drawback is the constant maintenance watering becomes more of a pain in the butt.

I prefer 2-3 days for the soil to dry during watering, but as short as 1-2 days has fell upon me with good results. I would make it shorter but would have to setup an auto drip system for multiple waterings per day.

As of now with work and hand waterings. Anything less than 2 days becomes risky for me if they overdry at an inopportune time.

Well then I should be good at 1 gallon maybe I will try the tray like you said. How often do you flush? I have not flushed but have not mixed my nutes over 1/2 strength ever. 1000ppm max and have only did it 3 times total I think. I don't mind the watering really but flushing them with 3 times each gallon of soil would be a job. Mine are on a concrete floor and would take 15 gallon of ph'ed water per pot. I would end up with a lot of towels and the shop vac a few times per plant.

I am trying not to move them anymore than I have to because once a branch makes it into a spot it is getting light I hate to make it hunt for light again. Maybe this is not correct as they could also benefit from rotating to get light to be distributed better over the entire plant evenly.

rmoltis · May 14, 2017

Broken said:
Well then I should be good at 1 gallon maybe I will try the tray like you said. How often do you flush? I have not flushed but have not mixed my nutes over 1/2 strength ever. 1000ppm max and have only did it 3 times total I think. I don't mind the watering really but flushing them with 3 times each gallon of soil would be a job. Mine are on a concrete floor and would take 15 gallon of ph'ed water per pot. I would end up with a lot of towels and the shop vac a few times per plant.

I am trying not to move them anymore than I have to because once a branch makes it into a spot it is getting light I hate to make it hunt for light again. Maybe this is not correct as they could also benefit from rotating to get light to be distributed better over the entire plant evenly.

I don't flush. My goal over time has been to try my best to find the ideal nutrient rate that doesn't build up over time.

If you find you are overfeeding and/or getting problems this would be the point to either flush, or just water until the extra nutes get uptaken and normalize back down to healthy levels.

When you flush the money you spent on nutes in the soil and bottled inputs gets flushed down the drain.

If I did add flushing to the regimin.
It would be at the transition from veg to flower to reduce the buildup of the veg nutes from the veg period. And to follow with a fresh batch of bloom nutes to replace them. to help initiate the change to flower.

If you are using a gallon each feed or water the runoff remaining should be sufficient as (mini flushes) to remove some of the plant exudates each time. It will help reduce the buildup of inputs.

This round I'm relying mostly on the soil and minimal bottled inputs. So any runoff or flushing would be just flushing the soil nutes down the drain.

jipp · May 15, 2017

hey broken. yeah man we are both growing critical kush.

hope you are having a good evening.. i finally flipped. see ya in the morning my friend.

i hope my plants are alive since this first time iv really ever zipped it up. laughs. its been my TV for a long time :D
chris.

Broken · May 15, 2017

I was in bed early. I have more work this week than I want. Hope your have a great day. When your TV was turned off your suppose to go to bed aren't you? LOL

Broken · May 15, 2017

I am pretty sure I have a bubbler here. I have worm casting and bat guano and molasses I also Have a bottle of Fox Farms Microbe Brew Tell about tea please

Broken · May 15, 2017

here is contents of microbe brew

incogneato · May 17, 2017

Hey bud, what's going on? Hit a funk and needed a break from everything for a few days. Just getting caught up here. How goes the grow?

Broken · May 17, 2017

Trying to get my room temps down. I added another exhaust fan yesterday but it didn't seem to help. I'm running 2 8" into one 6" duct for room exhaust. I have another 6" tube blowing though my lights in one room and out of the room. Still I was getting temps in the high 80's and hit 90 once. Have to feed them at 1:00 at lights on and see whats up.

Have you gotten your weights yet?

DrMcSkunkins · May 17, 2017

Broken said:
Trying to get my room temps down. I added another exhaust fan yesterday but it didn't seem to help. I'm running 2 8" into one 6" duct for room exhaust. I have another 6" tube blowing though my lights in one room and out of the room. Still I was getting temps in the high 80's and hit 90 once. Have to feed them at 1:00 at lights on and see whats up.

Have you gotten your weights yet?

Sounds like you have a positive pressure issue, do you have a pic or drawing of the exhaust setup?

Broken · May 17, 2017

@DrMcSkunkins here is a quick pic When I installed the 2nd exhaust fan I also laid a 24" house fan in front of passive intake.
To much intake causing the problem? I had considered adding the second exhaust fan to the end of the lights seeing how that is where the heat is coming from. I am also running without the carbon filter at the moment

DrMcSkunkins · May 17, 2017

Broken said:
@DrMcSkunkins here is a quick pic When I installed the 2nd exhaust fan I also laid a 24" house fan in front of passive intake.
To much intake causing the problem? I had considered adding the second exhaust fan to the end of the lights seeing how that is where the heat is coming from. I am also running without the carbon filter at the moment

The problem is that you are pushing the air instead of pulling it. If you put the fan as close as you can to the chimney pulling air instead of pushing it, the fan will pull fresh air inside of all of the holes and cracks in your vent system instead of pushing hot air into the room through them. The way you have it set up there's hot air from the lights leaking from every nook and cranny...

Broken · May 17, 2017

DrMcSkunkins said:
The problem is that you are pushing the air instead of pulling it. If you put the fan as close as you can to the chimney pulling air instead of pushing it, the fan will pull fresh air inside of all of the holes and cracks in your vent system instead of pushing hot air into the room through them. The way you have it set up there's hot air from the lights leaking from every nook and cranny...

Thank you I will add the fan that way when I get done working tonight. That will have one pushing and one pulling the heat. Originally I was told to have it push thru the lights so the venting would not suck the smell up thru house.

So far even without the carbon filter you can smell anything outside of the house with it being vented 20 ft in the air.

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