So finally got rid of them all I think, the hot water method works well for lightly infested plants, however the problem with the rootball dome makes it hard to eradicate them with a high population.
Eventually I hit them with a
Acephate dunk didn't see even on moving . If you do use
acephate I highly recommend you leach your soil after a few days because your leaves will fry.
I wasn't 100 percent confident so on top of that i gave them a 30 min soak in a ph balance orange oil insectidal soap which I leached from the soil immediately . This was followed up by a
Acephate spray of all my growing areas along with a steam treatment from on of those clothing steamers.
It has been a week and i have taken core samples from all surviving plants (lost like 4 of 14) everything is slowly recovering and anything that was in early flower I put back in veg due to leaf loss.
Time will only tell but so far so good, no sign of those fuckers anywhere.