Nomads Landing 2013 Season High Desert Greenhouse

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Hey hey folks, Spencer from Nomads Landing CSA Farm and Collective here. We have been journaling along in the grow diary forum, and thought we would pop in. Dia and I really started growing in a banana belt region of the sierra foothills, called "The Ridge". Perfect weather for medicinal cannabis, well as long as you covered your ladies for the fall rains. Now we live just a pistil away from the Oregon border on the Cali side. We have spent our years here dealing with the weather. We have a 66 day grow season, so a greenhouse is necessary; 10" of rain annually, and 50 degree temp. swings from day to night, pretty much everything hostile to cannabis, well except for mold. Wrong... lol... the greenhouse environment is perfect for mold. So come watch us come with ideas to get through yet another year at the Landing.
For the grow information prior to this please refer to this thread, we will update from now on out on both forums.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/nomads-landing-2013-season.54367/

Nomads landing 2013 season high desert greenhouse
 
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Is your soil covered with burlap? Is this retrofitted from an old barn? Regardless it is a hell of a sturdy structure! Nice setup.
 
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Is your soil covered with burlap? Is this retrofitted from an old barn? Regardless it is a hell of a sturdy structure! Nice setup.
Hey Ozark how's it going? We covered the beds with a sand that came from about 200 feet down when they were drilling our well. In 2011 some bagged soil, Roots, and Happy Frog came with tons of Thrips and Fungus Gnats, so the sand, being a fast draining medium will create a inhospitable environment for those critters to lay their eggs, meanwhile, the sand delivers minerals, disperses our irrigation spray pattern more evenly to the soil just about an inch or two down, acts as a mulch keeping the soil underneath moist allowing the microbial life a more globally friendly environment (we lose about 2" of water a day, due to evaporation from the sun and wind in our area.). Pretty much just bonuses all the way around. We used to use straw, nice for it's swamp cooler effects, but the straw robbed N, encouraged fungus gnats, and weeds, and took a lot of water to moisten.
Naw, it's not an old barn, sure could be though. We built the whole thing in 2010 for $2,200 plastic included. Thanks for the kind remarks on the greenhouse, it's definitely been a work in progress and originally it was only supposed to be a 2 year temp structure. It has held up against countless 6o mph wind gusts, and about 2' of snow. If we get 4' I will put 2x4 bracing from the ground to the center of the truss apex. Next year is a removable roof. Here is some pix from 2010, when the greenhouse was being built.

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We had a guy come in with a front loader and scrape down a 100' x 20' section to the top of the lava tubes, about 12" - 24" down. He separated the top 6" of topsoil from the clay beneath into two piles. Then using rocks we back filled the path area to allow for drainage. Next we used plywood forms for the paths and beds and packed the paths down with clay. We used 1/3 topsoil, 1/3 sand from the center of our valley (real small valley), and 1/3 horse, mule, goat, and chicken manures. Still, there was not enough soil to fill the beds, we built mounds instead. That first girl there is a Pineapple Express.

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Here we got all the ladies planted, mulched, and bottle fed.
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Putting the walls up. 2x4 on 4' centers, 92.5 stud height. Just before this shot, we received one of the two, 60 mph gust days that took about 1/3 of the crop.

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the roof, whew... I do not like man made heights. At least they are on 4' centers, when I did timber framing they were on 8' centers, nothing around if you fall. Plus this was extra freaky because the ladies are under you, plus the ladder positioning was continuously unique due to the beds.

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The plastic finally came and went up about Sept 27th, we had already had 2 weeks of frosting at this point, so every night for those two weeks we pulled 8- 12x 40' pieces of 1 mil plastic to temporarily cover the ladies, the wind would then rip it off the following morning, repeating the entire process again that next evening. We used 16 oz. soda bottles filled with sand, tied to the plastic with lengths of bailing twine. We then chucked those bottles over the greenhouse, pulled the film over, and fastened. whew... that was a lot of fucking work. Anyways, here is the ladies, about 3-4 weeks out. I think this was Oct 17th.
 
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Come to think about it, the plans for this greenhouse, only a 8x10 version is a web addy in Jorge's book. One of those DIY sites. Here it is... http://www.buildeazy.com/greenhouse.html

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Here is our moma house, same as the plans, with 2-5' extensions to the East and West, then we just added another 10' in length to the whole thing, plus rigid insulation, and double layer poly film. That is a rubbermaid shed attached to the North wall, which is where we sleep. Sounds crazy but that way we can keep the fire going for the momas. Been doing that schedule for 4 years now.
 
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Does the fire inside the greenhouse help to dry up any moisture?
If it did we sure didn't notice. The moisture build up on the interior roof has always been a big problem for us. The film we have on there now is standard 6 mil, uv resistant, but not anti condensing or anti drip is closer to the truth, which when we replace the film, we will get the Sunmaster 6mil. The stoves inside were really a pain in the ass. The wood with critters was the smallest issue, we got some nugs quite toasty, burned holes in the film when the fire was raging and embers shooting out the stack, there was only radiant heat zones not a even dispersal of heat throughout the structure, some nugs tasted like juniper smoke, and finally there were spots of reversion from the light of the fire when reloading.
Now we abandoned that method, and went with double barrel stoves (added pipes into the top barrel to increase surface area),
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sealed in a cement board box,
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we then added a draft fan through a 2" to feed our fire,
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plus a blower to pull in cooler air from down low in the greenhouse which is then forced through the cement board box
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first past the lower then the upper barrel before it is pushed into the greenhouse to be dispersed through tubes that run the length of the building.
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There is a 2" hole every 3' or so in the distribution tube. We have 2 of these setups, one on the North, and the other on the South.
The outlet hole closest to the furnaces run temp around 165' plus or minus, 50' down about 110', and at the end 50'-60'. We are able to keep 28K cu ft at least 30' higher than outside temps (and could go even higher), with using about 1/2 as much wood as before and only able to keep a 20' temp differential at full bore when the 2 stoves were inside.
 
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This week we did some more topping on ladies whom we hadn' t for awhile, shooting for around 8 -12 tops, strain dependent. We had to add a top cage this week to quite a few ladies, and next week it looks like both Sour Diesel, and Sour Tsunami will be ready for one side of the second stage of caging. Gorrilla tape was used to tape the seams of the ground cover in order to make it easier to sweep and mop as well as not trip on when your not paying attention. There was no need for fires this past week, we were in the 40's + every night. However, I can see that is changing as of tomorrow. lol... The chicks are getting big, and we are ready to get them out of the moma house and into the tractor for them. Dia has been piecing that project together. Our days this week were around the high 70's, but if the greenhouse doesn't get opened up by say 9 AM or so, it hits 100 degrees real fast. Spraying water on the ground cover, every 10 minutes or so drops the temps about 2 degrees a spray. Finished the irrigation for the potters. The water pump now has it's float, totally plumbed and ready to irrigate some teas. The pressure tanks were hooked back up, nice much less sand coming up from the well due to less cycling with the tanks. We are still "light washing" every night before lights out, we added more furring strips to the bed posts as well in order to get increased light penetration. Noticed some mite damage on the Blue Dreams lower leaves, hand brushed, sprayed with high pressure water, and neemed with peppermint soap. No worries, it's a grower's life. Back down to the original crew now, Just Dia and I (Spencer), BottleKap, and Francie. That's hill life. lol... We have plotted the location of this years light dep, and we will be getting on that structure after I am done with jury duty this coming week, here's your $5. This last week was full of cloud cover and rain, so we only had to water once this week, adjusted to 4 gallons per plant based on previous watering, and wouldn't ya know it. That was enough only for the ladies that were under the 4' mark, the others want more, so tomorrow it is. Getting ready to top dress soon. Also we will be spiking this year. Just got done chatting with the Rev, and recamended we use spikes about 6" deep and the diameter of a nickel, he feels it is very important to drip water onto the spikes for the first few weeks to encourage root growth in that direction. The spikes are to be placed at the projected drip line, so perhaps the corners. And only a few per bed should be needed so we'll do 4 one in each corner.

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Bed 1 Blue Dream

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Bed 2 Sensi Star (Sat. dom, heavy double serrations, no smell pheno)

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Bed 3 Blue Dream

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Bed 4 Sensi Star (Ind. Dom , light double serration, super stank pheno)

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Bed 5 Sour Diesel

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Bed 6 Pineapple Express

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Bed 7 Pineapple Express

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Bed 8 Ogre

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Bed 9 UK Cheese

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Bed 10 Sour Tsunami

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Bed 11 Maui

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Bed 12 Humboldt Purps

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Bed 13 OG Kush

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Bed 14 Brandy's So. Hum. OG Kush

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Bed 15 American Crippler

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Bed 16 Blackberry Kush

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Bed 17 Cheese Quake (50/50 pheno)

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Bed 18 GDP

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Garberville's True Kind

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Sensi Star (=Sat/Ind, medium double leaf serration, light smell pheno)
 
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Nomads Landing Update 5-12 pt. 2

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Cherry AK-47

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ATF

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Maui

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Progression view from the south, sorry about the tilt there...

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Got the float hooked up, and the pump is all plumbed, ready for tea.

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Progression shot from the north

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The orchard

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Finished installing the irrigation for the potters. Each potter get 2 stakes plus adjusters, actually there is an adjuster for every stake in the system.

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For the potters we are running about 50%

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Here is Dia gathering sticks and performing layout on the chicken tractor.

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Got the water tanks hooked back up. The big one here is actually from the Cottonwood scales on the 5. Our pressure switch is a 40/60 which we need to get that water the 700' or so to the veggies.

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Over to the other side, here we have corn, tomatoes, lettuce, turnips, and radishes.

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Grapes are in the pots, sierra strawberries on the spiral, and potatoes in the mulched bed just to the left.

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The buckwheat is coming up.


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4 more beds of potatoes, I did mention Dia was Irish didn't I... lol...

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Here is our "we need water" indicator, lower leaves have started to droop (1 of 3)

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while the tops are still perky, (2 of 3), means...

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needs water. (3 of 3). This method actually works pretty well, can't lift the bed to see if it's light here...
 
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Sorry yall for being so late with this post, there was some disagreements with the previous pics as far as quality and the measuring stick detracting from the girls. This isn't just for us, so what do ya think? We have had fires oh 5 out of the last 7 days, temps mainly in the mid 30's with a night or two at 42 Degrees (nights of rest for BottleKap and Spencer). As Lazy stated on 2013 Outdoor Grow thread, the temps have also cooled down during the day. In the greenhouse we averaged mid to high 70's to one day at 94. Which has also greened our new growth back up. In the beginning of the week what we believe to be an S deficiency was all over the place, by later in the week it got tough to find some good samples for the pics. I knew I should have snapped some shots when we saw it. That's the way it goes. We also made bed number markers, and name tags for the ladies. the new layout this year makes it more difficult to keep track of bed numbers. We added a third furring strip to the girls allowing us not to "Light Wash" anymore. Everyday the CFL gets moved to the next spot, therefore everyspot should receive light at the minimum of every third day. We know cutting it close, but is appears to be working just fine, plus the lights will be coming down on June 1st. Spent a lot of time watering the vegetables, harvesting worms, and collecting compost materials which includes sifting out the bio-char from gray ash. Dia has been giving the girls foliar sprays of Maxicrop Seaweed to help with the cold nights, as well as continuing with the carefully applied neem sprays. On the other hand, we have pressurized water this year allowing for full application of a new technique for us in the war on mites. lol... High pressure water spray, just like you were spraying off aphids which works, diligence counts here. However, besides making it a pain in the butt to want to stick around, it removes the dirt from the foliage which offers the mites cover, and is not so hospitable for predators. Finally, just blasting those little fuckers off, pounding them to death, knocking eggs off, and disrupting the birth cycle is all pluses in our book, and no pesticides to do it. And the girls finally received their first compost tea, the reservoir and LSP pump worked great, we flushed the lines first, and smooth runnings.

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BLUE DREAM, notice the bitchen marker tags, we should wood burn some, these were all done on the fly.

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SENSI STAR
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BLUE DREAM

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SOUR DIESEL

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PINEAPPLE EXPRESS


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OGRE

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UK CHEESE

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SOUR TSUNAMI

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MAUI

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HUMBOLDT PURPS

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OG KUSH

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BRANDY'S HUMBOLDT OG KUSH (open pollination with unknown cross) This lady as well as the Garberville's True Kind were grown with the thought process that the ladies were happier with a male around.

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American Crippler

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BLACKBERRY KUSH

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CHEESE QUAKE (50/50) Subby says this pheno is too watered down for him; however, for us it is the best of both worlds. We grew out the Querkle dom. pheno last year as well which tasted really good, but in our opinion lacked the character high of the cheese. We then picked up some dank Cheese dom. pheno from the 530 Collective, which again was mighty tasty, and a good high, but lacked the sophistication of the Querkle. Ultimately we thought the 50/50 pheno just rocked in taste, smell, quality of high in both flower and hash forms, unlike the Cherry AK-47 which we grow strictly for it's pain relieving abilities in hash form only.
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Grand Daddy Purple

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Garberville's True Kind - Deficient as all hell, but actually getting bettler.

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ATF - Hopefully the Sativa dom version, and not an Oakland knock-off.
 
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CHERRY AK-47 ( Mislabeled in previous entries... apologies)

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SENSI STAR (Runt of twins)

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Maui (deficient)

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Here you can see the 45 degrees in the branching at the nodes from the main stems through the 1st cage. We do this for support to help keep those joints together when the weight comes, and so does the twist and flop. Also most of the foliage is removed from below vent level allowing adequate airflow into the plant. And boy do these ladies really get moving when the winds pick up... fine by us, building strong stems and stalks which they will need later, again for support.

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Here you can see between the first and second cage the branch takes a whole new direction. Bush time. Before the entire 2nd cage gets added we will totally clear out the first cage for increased air flow. Help keep mold at bay, and make sure those girls can breathe.

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This is what it ends up looking like. Gets those ladies down a bit, adds light to the interior growth, as well as making the bush formation with the 90 degree branch angle. A majority of these ladies may need an additional cage by flower time.
In the end floral tape kicks ass.

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When the res was flat on the crate, there was about 10 gallons left as residual in the res. We put it on tilt on that got us to about the 5 gallon mark as you can see the mark above. Added a little plumbing here and got it down to about 1 1/4 gallons, we can live with that. The water will evaporate, and we will sweep up the residual powder from the compost tea, then it can either be a topping for a couple of girls, or added to the compost piles and worm bins.

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Here is a shot from the North, that is one of our neighbors over for a visit, he likes to see the progress especially this year.

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View from the south, the rain we have had off and on has helped keep the film free from dust and debris.
Note the 3 furring strips vertically on each bed, these are used to rotate the cfl around nightly to help ensure light saturation without manually "light washing". BTW. Still loving the ground cover, swept it later that evening.

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Here is you can see the start of a S def. The new leaves are very thin, yellowing from the apex out, effecting only the new growth of the entire plant. There is plenty of sulpher in the beds, but we had some days where the greenhouse reached 104 degrees. It cooled down for a while, and the deficiency started to fade. This shot was taken late in the week and I actually had a hard time finding a good example after the cooling period. It usually hits us, with high heat and periods of heavy growth.

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Ahh, This is a leaf on the Blue Dream in bed 1. You can see the heavy might damage on the finger that is twisted over for viewing. Yikes. Nah, not really. The longer we grow we don't run in to less problems per say, but we can handle them much quicker and fairly effectively... always learning you know. The significant thing about this pic though is that 24 hrs before it was covered with mites. In fact BottleKap says "Looks like there is Epsom Salts on the underside of that leaf?" I replied "Eggs, brother, eggs." Our psi rating from the well is 40-60. We use one of those garden hose nozzles with the various sprays. I believe we use the "flat" setting for this. We then spray the shit out of the girls. Yep... freaks most folks out, we do it when they are young adults, toughens up a bit in the early stages. If you spray a leaf with your hand behind it at this pressure it will seriously damage the tissue, usually we use plyboard about 3' away, but here the cages work great at a 18" - 2' distance. This leaf examined up close with a 40x showed no signs of adult mites or eggs. Woo hoo, lovin it. A few more high psi water spray applications and then we will start backing off.

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Bio char from the stoves, to be added to our compost piles in small doses only.

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Ahhh earth on the way.

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The orchard is looking better every week. Even though we are still really years out.

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The rogue red delicious... This tree is at the bottom of a 5' elevation drop, and shaded in the late afternoon by the Junipers to the West (in the background here), allowing the orchard grass to really kick in.

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A small little onion bed from a bag of onions.

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Here is a veggie garden shot, potatoes up from, corn and tomatoes in the rear. We fell asleep one night, and forgot to cover the corn and tomatoes with the Agribon, and jumped up about 3:00 Am. We got them all covered, but most still took a hard hit. Shit, in the hour or so it's taken to do this post a half inch of snow has fallen.


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Here is Neemo and our leak catching system, parts got to get real bad around here before replacing them, and we are kinda at the end of our budget for this year. You can also see another compost bin has been built at the veg garden there in the back right.

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We started our 12 cu ft. worm bin this week, added about a pound that we took out of our Can-O-Worms for population control. The bin in front is for presoaking/precomposting before feeding it to the worms. This bin is full of wild plants, orchard grass, lambs quarter, ganja stems from last year, and horse manure. mmm-mmm, good.

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Here is our attempt to take a weekly shot of the same branch throughout the grow, we hope our tripod will make it high enough. lol... We chose to shoot American Crippler, a local strain, not much info out on her, and whew, she can be omni-potent.
 
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Here is some of the plants we grow for teas and compost.

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Stinging Nettle

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Lambs Quarter

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and Alfalfa.
 
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