Novice looking for any tips and tricks

[Learningdetroit]

English isn't my first language please excuse any bad wording and such.

I apologize for the long post but I have many questions.

I’ve grown autos for maybe two seasons indoors now with some crap mars led lights but I started an outdoor photo garden as I wanted to start producing higher yields and avoid the electricity bills. However, my photo plants aren’t planted in water such as the autos were so I feel I can and need to learn a lot.

This is only my second attempt at growing photoperiods and my second attempt at outdoor growing as well so please be kind.

information that might help with any tips

Detroit Michigan

Soil: Ocean Forest / regular earth after transplant

Nutrients: Dry Fertilizer - Fox Farm All Puropose and beginning to add Fruit and Flower. I also add Grow Big slightly to the water maybe once a month and foiler spray a very low mixture.

I’m looking for any tips or information to help me turn my girls into the best I possibly can. From extra nutrients to help me getting some real sticky sap filled bud to anything else.

Main questions I have right now is regarding trellising these plants and defollilation. I probably should have done it a lot sooner. And I have no idea what I’m doing or what would be my best course or action Is me bending and weaving such a large plant such as below a bad thing? Will it actually help me achieve higher yields than just letting them grow without a trellis and bending?

But I'm also willing and eager to hear any tips on anything regarding helping me turn these into the best possible girls I can.

Photo of 1 I really bent and stuffed below netting.

this is another plant I attempted to trellis I was able to manipulate some of the branches down to be weaved in but I still have large branches that I can’t bend to much without snapping. My plan has maybe put another trellis over top of another half if the growth catches back up from the bottom parts I netted down.

This is prior to trying to net thee above plant

This one I just threw a net over to let it grow and then maybe stake it down eventually.
But I'm wondering if I were to just stake my lower branches down around the entire plant instead would that hurt my yield/kolas on those branches? With those branches tied down and the top to just freely grow. (low branches circled).

There is tomato cages in nearly all of them so they do have some support already


they all started in 5gl or 15g fabrics and had transplanted into the ground maybe early June for some others have been within the first week of July.


Here's a photo of them before I started trying to net them.

Any tips on anything would be greatly appreciated

 

[GNick55]

English isn't my first language please excuse any bad wording and such.

I apologize for the long post but I have many questions.

I’ve grown autos for maybe two seasons indoors now with some crap mars led lights but I started an outdoor photo garden as I wanted to start producing higher yields and avoid the electricity bills. However, my photo plants aren’t planted in water such as the autos were so I feel I can and need to learn a lot.

This is only my second attempt at growing photoperiods and my second attempt at outdoor growing as well so please be kind.

information that might help with any tips

Detroit Michigan

Soil: Ocean Forest / regular earth after transplant

Nutrients: Dry Fertilizer - Fox Farm All Puropose and beginning to add Fruit and Flower. I also add Grow Big slightly to the water maybe once a month and foiler spray a very low mixture.

I’m looking for any tips or information to help me turn my girls into the best I possibly can. From extra nutrients to help me getting some real sticky sap filled bud to anything else.

Main questions I have right now is regarding trellising these plants and defollilation. I probably should have done it a lot sooner. And I have no idea what I’m doing or what would be my best course or action Is me bending and weaving such a large plant such as below a bad thing? Will it actually help me achieve higher yields than just letting them grow without a trellis and bending?

But I'm also willing and eager to hear any tips on anything regarding helping me turn these into the best possible girls I can.

Photo of 1 I really bent and stuffed below netting.

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this is another plant I attempted to trellis I was able to manipulate some of the branches down to be weaved in but I still have large branches that I can’t bend to much without snapping. My plan has maybe put another trellis over top of another half if the growth catches back up from the bottom parts I netted down.

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This is prior to trying to net thee above plant

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This one I just threw a net over to let it grow and then maybe stake it down eventually.
But I'm wondering if I were to just stake my lower branches down around the entire plant instead would that hurt my yield/kolas on those branches? With those branches tied down and the top to just freely grow. (low branches circled).

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There is tomato cages in nearly all of them so they do have some support already


they all started in 5gl or 15g fabrics and had transplanted into the ground maybe early June for some others have been within the first week of July.


Here's a photo of them before I started trying to net them.

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Any tips on anything would be greatly appreciated

i’ll be honest i just skipped through your post, plants look fine..
just be on top of how to notice white powdery mildew or pest..
watch for earlier signs of caterpillars, mites.. etc..
starting now until finished especially starting in august.,
most plants in this area are starting their stretch before flowering starts..

 

[LilBean1013]

They look great.

The one thing about defoliation that I've kinda stuck to is pruning/trimming as needed to keep air flow and good light penetration.

There's ppl that only clip at certain times/weeks . I've found for me along as I don't over do it I've had success even with running autos lately .

But honestly ur looking great to my eye, just need to open them up alil so the aux bud sites can get their share of sun and air flow.

Sry,not much help , hope it was alil useful to you.

Best of luck, update here if u can as u go I'd like to see how it goes for u..

 

[Learningdetroit]

They look great.

The one thing about defoliation that I've kinda stuck to is pruning/trimming as needed to keep air flow and good light penetration.

There's ppl that only clip at certain times/weeks . I've found for me along as I don't over do it I've had success even with running autos lately .

But honestly ur looking great to my eye, just need to open them up alil so the aux bud sites can get their share of sun and air flow.

Sry,not much help , hope it was alil useful to you.

Best of luck, update here if u can as u go I'd like to see how it goes for u..

Good or bad I share maybe it will help someone in future!

Thanks for your input if you think of anything else please let me know.

 

[mediblemyc]

thew way that cannabis develops branch strength is through wind blowing the branches that causes micro tears which are then reinforced by the plant.
theres many tricks you can use to reinforce the branches, however personally as theyre outside i wouldn't be too concerned as the wind will do that for you.
what i would focus on though is spreading the canopy, so that light can get down in between them.
by usiong wire and nails into he ground you can tie the branches down into a star shape,
that will increase the area of your plants and in time the yields too.

they look healthy and fantastic.
i am sure you will pull a fantastic yield.

 

[Learningdetroit]

thew way that cannabis develops branch strength is through wind blowing the branches that causes micro tears which are then reinforced by the plant.
theres many tricks you can use to reinforce the branches, however personally as theyre outside i wouldn't be too concerned as the wind will do that for you.
what i would focus on though is spreading the canopy, so that light can get down in between them.
by usiong wire and nails into he ground you can tie the branches down into a star shape,
that will increase the area of your plants and in time the yields too.

they look healthy and fantastic.
i am sure you will pull a fantastic yield.

I’m going to attempt a few different things this week too open them up. I'm fortunate enough to have a few different plants to play around with. The ones I didn't tangle to bad with the trellis I might attempt something different with. Maybe even just doing it vertical and feeding branches out and even that way. Let’s pray I don’t get myself tangled up along with it!

Thanks for your input!

 

[Learningdetroit]

I'm going to post a weekly update of photos if that's a problem please let me know and ill stop. No one might even see them as it is but I want to share my goings on.

 

[chronic2]

It's 7-leaf indica. Grows like a punk when matures. Technical names I'm not up on. So the generic goes something like wait for 75% of the plant to show its brown hairs. White hairs are not mature. Next is the color of the oil oozing out of the budd and close growing leaves. Clear is too not ripe to pull. Cloudy oil is about time to pull. Brown or gold turning is overripe.

On my 4th season of growing. I use not elixirs, Just water it. When it grows young starting out, everyday I'm on top of, but say more looking under the leaves for its male counterpart. This is where you want to find the males before they pop the pollen. Want more seed, sacrifice this season for next year's planting.

Want full energy into the female, pull the males. Male would have shown themselves by now I believe. She looks healthy.

 

[Learningdetroit]

It's 7-leaf indica. Grows like a punk when matures. Technical names I'm not up on. So the generic goes something like wait for 75% of the plant to show its brown hairs. White hairs are not mature. Next is the color of the oil oozing out of the budd and close growing leaves. Clear is too not ripe to pull. Cloudy oil is about time to pull. Brown or gold turning is overripe.

On my 4th season of growing. I use not elixirs, Just water it. When it grows young starting out, everyday I'm on top of, but say more looking under the leaves for its male counterpart. This is where you want to find the males before they pop the pollen. Want more seed, sacrifice this season for next year's planting.

Want full energy into the female, pull the males. Male would have shown themselves by now I believe. She looks healthy.

I’m sorry can you explain to me what growing like a punk means?

I’m confident in knowing when they will be ready I bought a new digital microscope just to inspect my thricomes later on.

I went from feminized seeds I believe there is more creamofcrop zkittles out there in the yard then the othes. I believe that the zkittles is highly indica like 80/20. The others is a runtz from seedsupreme I believe was suppose to be a more 50/50.

I should probably do an inspection to make sure nothing has maled on me though. I will remember to do this when I give them a defoliation.

There’s a few I haven’t posted photos as I’m at my max of 12 plants for Michigan. And all those pictures would be even more work than these girls have become.

Then I also have a few clones from a really good place. Something called I-80, then apples & bananas and motor breath. These are mainly smaller plants. I’m more interested in making these big girls the best!

Also had a mandarin zkittles cut at two different locations actually start to flower on me maybe nearly month and half ago. It was doing very nice however this one got spider mites so it’s going to probably be burnt it’s in the back quarantined by the woods currently.

Don’t mind the white look it’s not powdery mildew. She had a bag of diatomaceous spilled all over here at one point I mean like drenched and that certainly killed all the mites but I still kept her far away to avoid them getting anything else.

I sprayed her off but you can clearly see all the mite damage however no webs or anything visiable when I looked at her. I’d consider just letting her grow out by the back woods but because how bad the mires were and it was like the first week of flower I fear they messed it to bad.

I also have a clone

 

[chronic2]

I’m sorry can you explain to me what growing like a punk means?

Indica will grow off a branch and fill the branch from bottom to top. Where the whole plant has these standing by themselves of the whole plant. Where as sativa has a gap of bare branch and then a thick bud, bare branch and then a thick bud above that one branch and so on.

 

[Deadstill]

Detroit Michigan

Howdy, and welcome to the Farm!

What part of the D? I was never an official resident of Detroit but I have a lot of friends there, and for years I spent every weekend at Leland City Club in the basement of the Ramada Hotel on Bagley. I believe it's called the Leland Hotel, now.

Quite a few friends from all over D town area including Dearborn, Royal Oak, Hamtramck, even a few folks across the way in Windsor. I miss the Woodward Dream cruises, too, used to go to that almost every year. I might have to take my son to this year's Dream Cruise, I think he might like that.

 

[Learningdetroit]

Howdy, and welcome to the Farm!

What part of the D? I was never an official resident of Detroit but I have a lot of friends there, and for years I spent every weekend at Leland City Club in the basement of the Ramada Hotel on Bagley. I believe it's called the Leland Hotel, now.

Quite a few friends from all over D town area including Dearborn, Royal Oak, Hamtramck, even a few folks across the way in Windsor. I miss the Woodward Dream cruises, too, used to go to that almost every year. I might have to take my son to this year's Dream Cruise, I think he might like that.

Thanks for the welcome.

I’ve lived on the west side of Detroit for about 32 years. I’ve seen it at it’s good times and it’s bad times, unfortunately we are going back into those bad times. I’ve moved most of my garden to my parents house in Taylor just due to safety concerns.

I try to stay away from downtown between the traffic/construction and just tomfoolery that been escalating that past few years I’m happy to just stay local. We need to build the rest of the city up instead of downtown.

We just had the Telegraph Cruise the past two days it was nice to see the cars but I couldn’t stay out there very long the heat and traffic made the air even worse than when we had the wildfire smoke. It surely wasn’t anywhere as a spectacle like older times many older cars and hot rods but the amount of people who want to bring out the mustangs challengers and chargers to show them off is just mehh...

The cops also have cracked down on the fun parts of those car meets. Like the burn outs / revving.

I know they moved many things to Milan at the racetrack i took one of my little cousins out there last month and we had a good time.

While this has nothing to do with anything important.

I do personally have a problem with some of these car events such as the Detroit auto show as the state gave them a 10 million grant to put it on while that 10 million could go multiple ways to help the people of Detroit. Instead of promoting cars from companies that already have record profits.

 

[cannafarmer420]

English isn't my first language please excuse any bad wording and such.

I apologize for the long post but I have many questions.

I’ve grown autos for maybe two seasons indoors now with some crap mars led lights but I started an outdoor photo garden as I wanted to start producing higher yields and avoid the electricity bills. However, my photo plants aren’t planted in water such as the autos were so I feel I can and need to learn a lot.

This is only my second attempt at growing photoperiods and my second attempt at outdoor growing as well so please be kind.

information that might help with any tips

Detroit Michigan

Soil: Ocean Forest / regular earth after transplant

Nutrients: Dry Fertilizer - Fox Farm All Puropose and beginning to add Fruit and Flower. I also add Grow Big slightly to the water maybe once a month and foiler spray a very low mixture.

I’m looking for any tips or information to help me turn my girls into the best I possibly can. From extra nutrients to help me getting some real sticky sap filled bud to anything else.

Main questions I have right now is regarding trellising these plants and defollilation. I probably should have done it a lot sooner. And I have no idea what I’m doing or what would be my best course or action Is me bending and weaving such a large plant such as below a bad thing? Will it actually help me achieve higher yields than just letting them grow without a trellis and bending?

But I'm also willing and eager to hear any tips on anything regarding helping me turn these into the best possible girls I can.

Photo of 1 I really bent and stuffed below netting.

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View attachment 2011074




this is another plant I attempted to trellis I was able to manipulate some of the branches down to be weaved in but I still have large branches that I can’t bend to much without snapping. My plan has maybe put another trellis over top of another half if the growth catches back up from the bottom parts I netted down.

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This is prior to trying to net thee above plant

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This one I just threw a net over to let it grow and then maybe stake it down eventually.
But I'm wondering if I were to just stake my lower branches down around the entire plant instead would that hurt my yield/kolas on those branches? With those branches tied down and the top to just freely grow. (low branches circled).

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There is tomato cages in nearly all of them so they do have some support already


they all started in 5gl or 15g fabrics and had transplanted into the ground maybe early June for some others have been within the first week of July.


Here's a photo of them before I started trying to net them.

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Any tips on anything would be greatly appreciated

They look great just keep a close eye on them and you should be great.

 

[Learningdetroit]

They look great just keep a close eye on them and you should be great.

Thanks appreciate the kind words.

 

[cannafarmer420]

Thanks appreciate the kind words.

Of course, ✌ ♥

 

[Learningdetroit]

Another week another round of update photos.

I'm working on cleaning up the insides/bottoms of popcorn bud branches. And trying to weave nets deeper / create support for branches.

 

[GNick55]

Another week another round of update photos.

I'm working on cleaning up the insides/bottoms of popcorn bud branches. And trying to weave nets deeper / create support for branches.


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nets will/are useless outdoors and a destroyer of trichomes when harvesteing..
get yourself 8ft T-bars or bigger to support branches that will need it..

 

[Imzzaudae]

Hope toy have friends that know how to trim1

 

[electroguy]

It's 7-leaf indica. Grows like a punk when matures. Technical names I'm not up on. So the generic goes something like wait for 75% of the plant to show its brown hairs. White hairs are not mature. Next is the color of the oil oozing out of the budd and close growing leaves. Clear is too not ripe to pull. Cloudy oil is about time to pull. Brown or gold turning is overripe.

On my 4th season of growing. I use not elixirs, Just water it. When it grows young starting out, everyday I'm on top of, but say more looking under the leaves for its male counterpart. This is where you want to find the males before they pop the pollen. Want more seed, sacrifice this season for next year's planting.

Want full energy into the female, pull the males. Male would have shown themselves by now I believe. She looks healthy.

Beautiful, happy plants. You must have humidity