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Nutrient Product Prices are on the Rise

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#21
Yep those farmers are all liberals and tripping over their own dicks to keep from blaming this on the Fed. They need some right wing genius like the cat above to explain it all. Lol.
 
#22
Pushrod Monkey said:
Yep those farmers are all liberals and tripping over their own dicks to keep from blaming this on the Fed. They need some right wing genius like the cat above to explain it all. Lol.
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lol not right wing or left wing. I live in a fact based world....but i clearly know which one you are....living in lala land.
 
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traeold420 said:
lol not right wing or left wing. I live in a fact based world....but i clearly know which one you are....living in lala land.
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I am sorry @Pushrod Monkey but he does have a point. In the year of 2019 thru 2121 the fed gave out a lot of money. They printed it and this while stimulating the economy for the short term has a long term affect on the value of the dollar world wide. This coupled with supply chain issues is my guess to the problem. It is only the middle of February. This is going from memory but I believe this is the time fert manufacturing is in high gear and speculation leads me to believe it will get worse before it gets any better.
As the old saying goes you can pay me now or you can pay me later
 
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Anthem said:
I am sorry @Pushrod Monkey but he does have a point. In the year of 2019 thru 2121 the fed gave out a lot of money. They printed it and this while stimulating the economy for the short term has a long term affect on the value of the dollar world wide. This coupled with supply chain issues is my guess to the problem. It is only the middle of February. This is going from memory but I believe this is the time fert manufacturing is in high gear and speculation leads me to believe it will get worse before it gets any better.
As the old saying goes you can pay me now or you can pay me later
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Dude, read the article I posted.
 
#26
I’m extremely aware of economics I swear to God. But if inflation stopped today and even eased there’s going to be fertilizer shortages and price increases for all users.
 
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Anthem said:
I am sorry @Pushrod Monkey but he does have a point. In the year of 2019 thru 2121 the fed gave out a lot of money. They printed it and this while stimulating the economy for the short term has a long term affect on the value of the dollar world wide. This coupled with supply chain issues is my guess to the problem. It is only the middle of February. This is going from memory but I believe this is the time fert manufacturing is in high gear and speculation leads me to believe it will get worse before it gets any better.
As the old saying goes you can pay me now or you can pay me later
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printing vast amounts of money and basically infusing it into the economy created supply chain issues. it starts with the unprecedented money creation. Thats the head of this snake. FED...you have a shit ton more new money chasing after the same amount of goods...that equals massive inflation. Supply chain issues are a consequence of money creation and infusion.
 
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Pushrod Monkey said:
I’m extremely aware of economics I swear to God. But if inflation stopped today and even eased there’s going to be fertilizer shortages and price increases for all users.
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I think I understand the point you are stating. You are stating that like in 2008 there was a fert shortage prices rose and eventually returned to 2007 price levels. That part I totally understand. What is also being stated by @traeold420 is that the Federal Reserve printed massive amounts of money out of thin air. During the years of 2019 thru 2021. This money was printed to help people thru the trying times. The key take away it to realize that printing this money means the value of the dollar against say the euro or yen or whatever currency a country trades in becomes devaluated. So say 4 years ago if you wanted to buy 20 tons of Calcium Nitrate from say France it might have costed you $ 16,000.00 US Dollars. Because of the revaluation created by printing the money the us did during 2019 thru 2021. The same 20 tons of Calcium Nitrate will now cost you $ 24,000.00. This is not the supply chain portion of the problem but the revaluation of the US dollar internationally. This is directly caused by the FED printing money out of thin air. I am not going to say anymore about this because it is kind of at the line with Policies and that is a no no on the farm.
 
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traeold420 said:
printing vast amounts of money and basically infusing it into the economy created supply chain issues. it starts with the unprecedented money creation. Thats the head of this snake. FED...you have a shit ton more new money chasing after the same amount of goods...that equals massive inflation. Supply chain issues are a consequence of money creation and infusion.
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It is, but and this is a huge BUT. In some way shape or form people needed to eat, buy goods, and basically survive or things would have been even worse. But time will tell.
 
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Anthem said:
It is, but and this is a huge BUT. In some way shape or form people needed to eat, buy goods, and basically survive or things would have been even worse. But time will tell.
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oh i agree...but there has to be a balance somewhere. short term gains for long term pains. this mechanism has also been going on much longer than the last couple years....
 
#31
traeold420 said:
oh i agree...but there has to be a balance somewhere. short term gains for long term pains. this mechanism has also been going on much longer than the last couple years....
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Like 2008? Now some things are really starting to click. This is why interest rates have stayed so low and the bond market is basically tried up like the salt and sea
 
#32
Anthem said:
Like 2008? Now some things are really starting to click. This is why interest rates have stayed so low and the bond market is basically tried up like the salt and sea
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even longer than that....when nixon completely got the us completely off the gold standard in 71, the FED started to balloon in power.
 
#33
“The global production of nitrogen fertilizer amounted to some 117.5 million metric tons in 2018. China was by far the country with the largest production, with an output of 28.9 million metric tons of nutrient. It was followed by the United States and India, with 13.6 and 13.3 million metric tons produced, respectively.”

The Fed printing money has nothing to do with Chinese and Indian fertilizer companies. I’ll acknowledge money printing cheapens our dollar but there’s far far more in play here than US central bank policies. For what it’s worth.

My only point is buy it while you can.
 
#34
They printed the money and we all spent it. So why the fuck is everyone crying like babies. It is what it is. We are all just a spec in the dust. No matter whose in office or how much money they printed, my bills are due on the first. Plain and simple. Buy your nutrients or don’t because we all know, no matter what the price climbs too, we’re going to buy it haha.. lemme go take a bong toke. ☮️
 
#35
BurnzYzBudZz said:
They printed the money and we all spent it. So why the fuck is everyone crying like babies. It is what it is. We are all just a spec in the dust. No matter whose in office or how much money they printed, my bills are due on the first. Plain and simple. Buy your nutrients or don’t because we all know, no matter what the price climbs too, we’re going to buy it haha.. lemme go take a bong toke. ☮️
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Thanks for bringing us all back to earth Burnzy 👍 😊
 
#36
They printed a dollar and gave you all .14.......Now eat your meat......"How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat....?"....


In all seriousness though.....inflation sucks. Cash is Trash.
 

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#37
I got lucky and bought a fresh 25 pounder just before the increases. It will last a few years. Weed is basically free. It only costs me $150 to grow a pound. With more expensive Jacks nutes it will cost maybe $160 to grow a pound. Still dirt cheap.
 
#38
Had a talk with an ICL product manager/agronomist about this about three months ago. He told me that all the salt base products are going to go up dramatically in price, so expect all lines of nutrients to go up as well.
 
#40
8.5%+ increase on US inflation for March. Global food prices up 17%+. Inflation sucks literally......Thanks big government.....You fat inept cow waiting to be tipped.
This goes far beyond nutrients.....and will hold back each and everyone of us. Welcome to the suck. Two weeks to flatten the curve, two years to destroy the dollar/
 
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