ttystikk
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Wazzup will make your head spin with knowledge...
Talkin to Wazzup gets expensive though because all you want to do is go buy Gavita's and really get to gettin....lol
Sorry tty I don't really get it. Why reinvent the wheel? If you can do one and pull down over 2 lb a light then I am all ears. I am not trying to be rude, and I am sure it is coming off that way. Just don't see the point. You ask for a #, 2lb. People can and do make this happen with horizontal set-up. Assuming that is the point of the build.
Also not sure why bother with the reflectors? Anyone who has grow herb knows the light level under the canopy/behind in this case, is not enough to give and additional yeild. For the cost of materials to build a mover would you better served to purchase a 600?
Just seems like a whole lot of work for a maybe. Why not just dial everything you got and hit the 2lb per. There is is always room for improvement for us all, no doubt. The aproach I find has worked best is do you best become an expert, as best we can, perfect the system in place, tweaking to improve, keeping it simple. I have yer to hit the 2 per, 1.75 about as close as I have gotten. I'll get there though.
Don't get me wrong I wish all the best in what you do man. I hope to be wrong aboit a great many things
But what about stacking 600s or 1000s around the outside as well?
Wazzup will make your head spin with knowledge...
Right?! Wouldn't this give you complete optimal growth when dialed in if u used movers like tty wants to do inside and how u suggest outside?? This is always on my mind, how to use the entire bulb. Using a checkerboard setup w straight movers inbetween plants that are being vertically scrogged around one bulb on a vertical mover seems would be the ultimate way to maximize lights in a tree grow w limits in med grows.Hah. I was thinking after he perfects this initial design..he can then use his circle light movers to spin a couple around on the outside and set it up like a vert grow.
If he set up 5 in his room with lights hitting 3 sides. tty could have his pogo light bouncing up and down in the center and then spin the plant around in a circle on an automatic platform. It would look like a friggin circus in there! Couldn't suspend it from the ceiling but with all the moving parts that would be an engineers 9 lt dream set up.. Just thinking about all that work makes me want to take a nap.
Have you ever seen a "Pi wall" or "Octagon hydro"? look at that for some inspiration
http://www.octagonhydroponics.com/ basically a Heath Robison knock off but they have some cool shit and a bad ass stacked light tube
http://www.pi-technics.com/ that PI rack is a machine...I saw one at one of the hydro shows
I like the idea of using Wavegems's liquid cooled design..did he ever measure the reduction in light from being water cooled? it would be a good back up if your pogo idea doesn't pan out.. double stacked 6's or 1k's in a 5ft air cooled tube would be dope 2. I remember awhile back you made a compelling argument that air cooled / semi sealed is more efficient than bare / shitload of cooling. Personally.. I like 6's, aaw's & neg pressure.. Although, I find the more time I spend on this site the closer I get to being sucked down the bare bulb massive AC sink hole... I feel like I'm entering a timeless pit in search for total control of a perfect environment that will always be evolving and never completed..I guess that's what keeps everybody coming back :)
15% is the total loss of lumens. So if you are using glass what's 5 more percent and your bulbs are cool.
Also a properly grown tree is hollow on the inside. Lollipopped so the surface of the tree is all that is working. On my Ewoks I just started harvesting haven't taken pictures yet but I have ZERO larf, every single bud was sellable. You just have to fill the surface area your light is hitting.
Have you ever seen a "Pi wall" or "Octagon hydro"? look at that for some inspiration
http://www.octagonhydroponics.com/ basically a Heath Robison knock off but they have some cool shit and a bad ass stacked light tube
http://www.pi-technics.com/ that PI rack is a machine...I saw one at one of the hydro shows
that pi wall is so sick but with 50 plants per section seems a little sketchy.
15% is the total loss of lumens. So if you are using glass what's 5 more percent and your bulbs are cool.
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