Old school hash, why could you buff it?

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I think the key is the way that the hash is processed, with outdoors drying being important as it also removes any residual chlorophyll. What is the difference between hash and "scissors hash" made from trimming dried buds? It is much like the hash of old and doesn't melt when you burn it. I think it is a combination of the pressing process and maybe something with the moisture content when it is pressed. If it is slightly damp when pressed, it would harden up quite a bit after drying out a little, much like scissor hash hardens up after sitting a little. I don't think it has anything to do with sand of other contaminants, as you would have a pile of unburned sand sitting in your pipe after smoking it, since sand and dirt doesn't burn too well.

Thats what I was thinking. Scissor hash burns when lit from the corner and keeps burning like hash i used to buy in the 80’s.

It definitely has plant matter in it. Maybe pure extraction forms make full melt and hash had a lot of plant matter in it?
 
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Are you on about Formula Black from the 80's DB?
I've never heard of formula black actually. I'm talking about hash I got in the 90's in England that was smuggled from Amsterdam, but apparently from Morocco Afghanistan and Lebanon. It was more brown than black and when you heated up a corner of it with a bic you then could pull off a chunk that would crumble into tiny little pieces, perfect for a joint.
I also used to see it around Montreal and east out to Nova Scotia and even west to Ontario. But I havent seen it since I moved to BC in the late 90's.
 
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This is something I've had a few theories about but really dont know how it is done.
Talking about the hash that comes from Afghanistan and Morocco that I havent seen in 20 years, I used to buy it in England quite a bit but havent ever seen it on the west coast of Canada.

You could heat it with a lighter to "buff it" and it would just get soft and crumbly, It didnt melt and just stick into a blob on your finger like bubblehash or dry sift does.

Anyone know the actual reason for this? Was it process? Ingredients?

My theory has always been the outdoor plants grown for hash making would get sand and other atmospheric debris stuck to them that was the right particle size to pass through the screens with the trichome heads. Essentially making hash that is cut with sand.

If that were the case, I wonder if it could be recreated somehow by acquiring an inert filler with the same characteristics as the afghan sand. Not that I would do it, more just curious if it's possible.

Any thoughts?
It may be a cpl things. the old school process of making it wih the oil and heated over a direct flame and the way it is hand agitated and compressed,or maybe it has something to do with the size of the resin head itself.
 
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This Is along the lines I'm thinking, is there something else in there that makes it like that? Because every modern high quality hash just melts when you heat it.
Modern hash is separated by mesh size allowing some of the layers to melt(the prettiest ones that everyone wants to see).
Then the real hash heads today use fresh frozen buds which have a lot less contaminates then dry flower. But also has much lower yields.
A lot of guys press the hash before it’s dry causing the hash to not hold together for long periods of time.
 
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When I had my incident in Barcelona with my homegrown buds, they had never seen bright green buds, since 95% of the cannabis smoked is in the hash form, since Morocco is pretty close by. Most of the hash I've seen over the decades has been dark brown or beige. I think the added plant matter helps to hold it together. Using pure kief seems to yield melting hash instead of the old school stuff.
 
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When I had my incident in Barcelona with my homegrown buds, they had never seen bright green buds, since 95% of the cannabis smoked is in the hash form, since Morocco is pretty close by. Most of the hash I've seen over the decades has been dark brown or beige. I think the added plant matter helps to hold it together. Using pure kief seems to yield melting hash instead of the old school stuff.

I agree. Thats why i compared it to scissor/ finger hash. That burns from a lit corner.
 
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This is something I've had a few theories about but really dont know how it is done.
Talking about the hash that comes from Afghanistan and Morocco that I havent seen in 20 years, I used to buy it in England quite a bit but havent ever seen it on the west coast of Canada.

You could heat it with a lighter to "buff it" and it would just get soft and crumbly, It didnt melt and just stick into a blob on your finger like bubblehash or dry sift does.

Anyone know the actual reason for this? Was it process? Ingredients?

My theory has always been the outdoor plants grown for hash making would get sand and other atmospheric debris stuck to them that was the right particle size to pass through the screens with the trichome heads. Essentially making hash that is cut with sand.

If that were the case, I wonder if it could be recreated somehow by acquiring an inert filler with the same characteristics as the afghan sand. Not that I would do it, more just curious if it's possible.

Any thoughts?
The old school hash I remember had opium in it and was gummy, not sure if we're talking about the same thing but you mentioned Montreal and what was there would have been in this area as well back then
 
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The only hash i know for sure how is made is nepalese fingers and temple balls. Basically they run their hands up the plants and roll it into shape then wrap it with foil. I’ve heard middle eastern hash is baked and pressed, but don’t know.
 
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The old school hash I remember had opium in it and was gummy, not sure if we're talking about the same thing but you mentioned Montreal and what was there would have been in this area as well back then
That's classic temple ball I believe. A different product from what I'm talking about, but also very nice stuff. Only ever tried it once, I bought an 8th of it back in the mid 90's and it would sit you the fk down.

I've been tempted to try my hand at making some someday.
 
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The old school hash I remember had opium in it and was gummy, not sure if we're talking about the same thing but you mentioned Montreal and what was there would have been in this area as well back then
I’m too young to know about this stuff but damn does that sound like it would be nice to try.

I’m curious, what are the differences between hash from the 80s compared to that we get now?
 
One thing is for sure, All this hash talk makes me want to smoke kif all day lol.. Traditionally, in a spliff with tobacco...View attachment 885723View attachment 885724View attachment 885725


Ahhhhhh,... that's better! lol
I remember the hash you speak of. I use to see Afghan freedom fighters gold seal black hash that had two rifles crossed and said freedom fighters on it. It was wrapped in red cellophane. All through the eighties and rarely in the early nineties and never as good.

I have been missing it myself especially since reading your post. Actually just took my first attempt at making water hash then blended all bags together in hopes of recreating something similar to yesteryear.

I don’t think the product you speak of red blonde or black can be made with water extraction.

I will put up a pic of my “hash”.
Your not alone. BT’s ??

I am going to squish the crumble so I have the “full melt”

With all respect I don’t mean in any way to detour your thread
 
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No detour at all, love it.

I've been digging into the finer points of hash making lately and coming across a couple things I want to try.

First is I have a violator kush that is prime for hash making being a cross of malana and hindu kush.
I want to recreate the process as best I can by dry sifting the resin through a screen and curing the kif for a month, Then pressing it and sealing it up in a vac sealer and aging it for different lengths of time. Opening a package at 6 months, 9 months, and 1 year to see how the resin mellows and changes. I think one big difference between modern hash and old school import is how and how long the product is aged.

I know I will lose a lot of terpenes with the long kif cure, but violator kush is very high in myrcene, the terp that sticks around and degrades into hashishine. Which is allegedly the compound that gives hash that traditional flavour. We shall see...
 
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Last year I knocked a tumbler together to sift my trim, worked quite well, just looking for bits to make the MK2 so I can dispel with the sticky tape and elastic bands, then it's sifted through 3 grades of screen. This time round I've grown 6 original Afgani plants, with a view to making some Afgani black, plants are 6 weeks into flower, don't know how long this will take, like Dirtbag, I want to cure the Afgani first and see how it goes from there.
 

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