Outdoor grow drooping leaves please help

[Jmoney805]

Hey guys sorry having some beer and wine with my lady! I laughed at the post haha. So do I have mites? All I know. Is I've been watering it every other day and not to much and they are fabric pots so I figured it would eliminate drainage problems. However whatever you suggest if you are certain I will do. I can always take more pictures. I really appreciate the help. These seeds were very expensive from Sensi seeds.

 

[Oldchucky]

I hear your man! But you’re the one with the pot there! If you can figure out whether it’s wet or dry, then you narrow it down! Otherwise you go with your best instinct! They aren’t made of crystal! It won’t shatter on you! Do some probing! But I think it looks underwater! But you’re the one there that can nail it down! That vague enough! Hang in there, man! Sorry to clog up your thread! Maybe someone will jump in in the morning! That’s a nice plant!

 

[cbrians]

Hey guys sorry having some beer and wine with my lady! I laughed at the post haha. So do I have mites? All I know. Is I've been watering it every other day and not to much and they are fabric pots so I figured it would eliminate drainage problems. However whatever you suggest if you are certain I will do. I can always take more pictures. I really appreciate the help. These seeds were very expensive from Sensi seeds.

With the temps you’re having you really only need to water it once every two to three days. Fabric pots drain a lot too, when I water mine I do three passes, just to make sure the soil is getting soaked and it it’s not just running thru.

Keep an eye on it, I bet it will come back in a week. That’s been my experience so far, if it doesn’t bounce back in like five days then something is up.

I’ve been trying to kill my weed all season and it’s still standing strong

 

[cbrians]

With the temps you’re having you really only need to water it once every two to three days. Fabric pots drain a lot too, when I water mine I do three passes, just to make sure the soil is getting soaked and it it’s not just running thru.

Keep an eye on it, I bet it will come back in a week. That’s been my experience so far, if it doesn’t bounce back in like five days then something is up.

I’ve been trying to kill my weed all season and it’s still standing strong

Look at me, acting like I know shit

 

[botanicalbishop]

Hey guys sorry having some beer and wine with my lady! I laughed at the post haha. So do I have mites? All I know. Is I've been watering it every other day and not to much and they are fabric pots so I figured it would eliminate drainage problems. However whatever you suggest if you are certain I will do. I can always take more pictures. I really appreciate the help. These seeds were very expensive from Sensi seed

Hey guys sorry having some beer and wine with my lady! I laughed at the post haha. So do I have mites? All I know. Is I've been watering it every other day and not to much and they are fabric pots so I figured it would eliminate drainage problems. However whatever you suggest if you are certain I will do. I can always take more pictures. I really appreciate the help. These seeds were very expensive from Sensi seeds.

Are you measuring a specific amount of water or are you just watering till you see run off? I'd start measuring if you aren't already.

They can get fussy if you aren't consistent with the water. I messed mine up over watering and then cutting back too much as I was afraid of downing them again.

As far as the spots it's likely a nutrient issue (Mag?) caused from the watering schedule. If the roots are too wet they can't uptake any nutrients or oxygen until it dries out. Same if it's dry.

Try sticking your finger in soil if it's still moist hold off till later in the day or the following if need be.

If you've been moving them around you should be able to tell how much water they have when you lift the pot. You don't want the soil to dry completely out or pull away from the sides either. As this will kill the microbiology in the soil.

Your temps look great but that 86% rh is way high, is it like that all day or just in the morning and night?

That has me wondering if the plants are having troubles transpiring. According to my VPD chart the ideal rh for that temp in about 50-60 RH. If the plant can't pump water or transpire from the leafs it will continue to wilt no matter how much water you give it.

 

[MaryJane RottenCrotch]

I hear your man! But you’re the one with the pot there! If you can figure out whether it’s wet or dry, then you narrow it down! Otherwise you go with your best instinct! They aren’t made of crystal! It won’t shatter on you! Do some probing! But I think it looks underwater! But you’re the one there that can nail it down! That vague enough! Hang in there, man! Sorry to clog up your thread! Maybe someone will jump in in the morning! That’s a nice plant!

Pretty much what he said.....they looked abit underwatered, if you can check moisture with your finger past knuckle.and.see.......if it's dry water if it's wet well shit.....maybe too wet.....do you water until water runs off?? Seeps through the pot?

 

[GNick55]

Here is more pictures. There is some leaves that have a little discoloration but most of them don't. Here you can see if the stems are droopy

what size bag?
how much water you give for a watering and how often?,..
ok it’s not thirsty by the look of the leaf stems

 

[RootFarmer]

When in doubt, water a little then wait 10-15 minutes. Ask yourself are they drooping more or drooping less? If they droop more then you're over watering. If they perk up a little then you under watered. It's not uncommon to over correct. I'm wondering if this might be the case. Generally they look over watered but not all have gotten to the point of showing nutrient deficiency.

And I don't think you have septoria. What I see is likely a common nutrient lock out from slowly drowning roots. I don't water until I get 2 or 3 tips beginning to wilt a little. Then I give them a REGULAR watering being mindful of the natural tendency to over compensate. Give your roots time to breathe between watering. Years ago a guy told me that plants breathe CO2 with their leaves during the day and oxygen through their roots at night. I don't know that day or night is as significant as wet/dry cycle which is probably what he was trying to convey. Regardless, the roots need a regular oxygen supply. IME If you over water most commonly avaliable soils then your roots will be sitting in mud all the time if you over water or even give a regular amount of water too frequently. I've brought all kinds of plants back from the brink. Your girls will be fine so don't stress.

 

[Beachbumm]

I live right by the beach near Santa Barbara California

That's a beautiful area friend, I was going to move there when I retired but things changed

Those plants look either very dry or did something happened to the roots?

 

[7munkee]

When you try to lift the leaf, is it stiff or floppy? If it's stiff or offering some resistance, then your leaves are trying to avoid so much light...they lower themselves to absord less light. If they are floppy, then its probly a water issue. Without lifting/probing into the soil, you won't be able to tell which one it is.

 

[RootFarmer]

That's interesting about the light response. I don't know that I've ever noticed that outdoors. Maybe I've been missing something. I've seen rhe original large fan leaves or larger internal leaves lower as they come out of play because new growth has impeded light exposure but I don't know that I've seen them shy away from light outdoors. But you never know, I actually had a little light burn from the intense sunlight when it was 100+ for days. Hadn't ever seem that outdoors.

 

[Jmoney805]

Hey guys I decided to water my plant again after waiting several days of no watering the plant looked the same with the soil being completely dry. So what my guess is from all your advice it could be the humidity. Hopefully the leaves perk up! The leaf has a little resistance when lifting it.

 

[Oldchucky]

You should know real soon! It doesn’t take them long to recover from being underwatered. You can almost sit there and watch it happen if you are loaded Enough!

 

[Jmoney805]

Hey guys an update. I only watered the plant once yesterday and so far the leaves are still drooping. I also took more pictures. I noticed the bottom leaves are all turning yellow. Is this a deficiency in something?

 

[Oldchucky]

What kind of soil are you growing in? Almost looks like Coco!

 

[Jmoney805]

What kind of soil are you growing in? Almost looks like Coco!

Fox farms happy frog soil

 

[Galgrows]

Did you mention what size pots those are. And Jack Herer grows very big.

 

[Oldchucky]

OK! That’s not Coco! If watering them didn’t help, I guess you will have to go the other way And quit watering them till they either perk up or croak completely! I am at a loss!

 

[Beachbumm]

Hey guys an update. I only watered the plant once yesterday and so far the leaves are still drooping. I also took more pictures. I noticed the bottom leaves are all turning yellow. Is this a deficiency in something?

How much water did you give it?

 

[GNick55]

what size bags?
how much water you give?
daytime temps and humidity?