Piña Colada and coconuts :)

[Sunin]

If its only to support then why not, I would go for the elastic one since its less likely to damage tissue and you already did the SCROGing. I tried to SCROG on a second net once and it was the worst idea Ive ever had, second net SCROGed branches ended up on top of the first ones and I only diminished my yield but I think you mean just for support right?

I have no idea I never SCROGed
first grid is elastic too really, just I locked it in in different ways

 

[Eledin]

I have no idea I never SCROGed
first grid is elastic too really, just I locked it in in different ways

You have not used the net to pass branches horizontally? You tied them all up? Props to you I have no patience for that hahaha of course that shows in the grow, mine is not gonna be as productive as yours nor I have that wonderful coverage that you got going on in there.

 

[BudRanger1919]

If somebody could advise me and brainstorm with me if it would be better to install second grid stiff like the first one or just elastic net? or maybe none?
Second grid should come right about now, right? Because all the double SCROG tables that I see have second layer after around 30cm

Hey there! It is totally up to you, but I only use a second net if I know I will need support, and I will use another elastic net. Mind you, I only use the elastic nets because they don't run to the sides of my tent, so if I need to get into the back of my tent I can pop up from the canopy on the sides yes I have to squeeze and grunt but I can fit! If I ran a plastic net I would have to cut holes for me to pop up through. What Eledein said about elastic being more gentle is another reason I use elastic. I have also seen people who use string/twine, and their buds become covered in fragments/threads of string.

If I can see my buds starting to put on weight and lean, I will install a second net only as support so that buds can lean against it OR be tied to it. Is it annoying to add it later? Yes, yes it is, but its not as hard as you might think. You just need to feed the heads through the net holes, slowly! As long as you do it slowly, you can lower the net around your budding plants safely and feed the buds through the holes. You have full access to every side of your tent, so this might not be as hard for you. Once the net is in place, I often use plant ties to tie huge bud branches directly to the net.

Just to be clear, if I use a second net, I never use it to lower my canopy height with weaving. I found that if I weaved my branches through the second net like I did with the first net it would shade everything below it (which is ALL buds!) and it would also GREATLY complicate taking the net off at the end of the grow .

 

[Sunin]

Hey there! It is totally up to you, but I only use a second net if I know I will need support, and I will use another elastic net. Mind you, I only use the elastic nets because they don't run to the sides of my tent, so if I need to get into the back of my tent I can pop up from the canopy on the sides yes I have to squeeze and grunt but I can fit! If I ran a plastic net I would have to cut holes for me to pop up through. What Eledein said about elastic being more gentle is another reason I use elastic. I have also seen people who use string/twine, and their buds become covered in fragments/threads of string.

If I can see my buds starting to put on weight and lean, I will install a second net only as support so that buds can lean against it OR be tied to it. Is it annoying to add it later? Yes, yes it is, but its not as hard as you might think. You just need to feed the heads through the net holes, slowly! As long as you do it slowly, you can lower the net around your budding plants safely and feed the buds through the holes. You have full access to every side of your tent, so this might not be as hard for you. Once the net is in place, I often use plant ties to tie huge bud branches directly to the net.

Just to be clear, if I use a second net, I never use it to lower my canopy height with weaving. I found that if I weaved my branches through the second net like I did with the first net it would shade everything below it (which is ALL buds!) and it would also GREATLY complicate taking the net off at the end of the grow .

Thank you my fellow Grow Buddy BudRanger
I was just thinking exactly the same -for me they are already locked so most of tedious job is down and have around 40-50cm of space up to play so free for all and whoever will survive no? - I will just allow them to stretch now- watch who's bearing- then I can lock/hang heavier colas if I will have some with some string/contraptions as I usually do (or use a grid)

so you say it's possible to put heavy sticky cola through that 12 cm square in case?

 

[BearWater]

No matter how long you grow- if you love it - and you did serious jobs in the garden opening the tent morning after always have a little bit of nervous anticipation
Seems I did decent job (pat on the back)
Girls are pushing nicely and more or less even.
Dent by retarded one is filling up slowly, retarded one is still retarded, now I am just simply interested what she will bring being so weak and weird
Checked all the lollipoped trunks - looks good, few wounds but nothing serious
Lettuce shoot up so whatever I did with her mutilated limbs worked

Now I will introduce mid bloom feed with loads of potash with next water and I will change silicon for more expensive one that I keep for 3rd and 4th week of flower.

Today sun will be cut to 13h and we are entering last and most intensive week of stretch.
I would prefer them to build low, not too fat and very even of course but I know where I can put my wishes

Where's that 1000W?- she said greedy- it would help flatten heads on perimeters

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If somebody could advise me and brainstorm with me if it would be better to install second grid stiff like the first one or just elastic net? or maybe none?
Second grid should come right about now, right? Because all the double SCROG tables that I see have second layer after around 30cm

Hey Sunin, not a pro (you know that). I think youll be fine letting those go : ) maybe at the most you could just tie a few off to other branches if needed : ) but do what makes you feel the best about your grow space : )

 

[BudRanger1919]

I was just thinking exactly the same -for me they are already locked so most of tedious job is down and have around 40-50cm of space up to play so free for all and whoever will survive no? - I will just allow them to stretch now- watch who's bearing- then I can lock/hang heavier colas if I will have some with some string/contraptions as I usually do (or use a grid)

A lot of people do that, it sure makes it a lot easier to just attach leaning branches to hangers.

so you say it's possible to put heavy sticky cola through that 12 cm square in case?

You may have to gently squeeze them through if they have large leaves but when I use a 2nd net its mostly for upper support, like a grid for the very tops of the plants that are heaviest. If lower branches are leaning, you can also use a plant tie to tie that branch to the elastic net, but you will have to readjust a few times because its stretchy lol.

But it might just be easier for you to attach leaning buds to hangers like you did before, totally up to you. Deal with each branch as it leans instead of bothering with a net.

 

[Sunin]

Thanks for brainstorming.
I won't be putting second grid up, you're right
That first one sits on tent so it can carry to 20kg. I have one elastic in case that I can hook if there will be something worth hooking on and I will be improvising as it goes.
I am sometimes just scared if I will control it as never I had so many small colas
I don't think I will be adding FIM to my normal repertoire

this is how Phlizon see it

bit ridiculous

 

[cbrians]

Thanks for brainstorming.
I won't be putting second grid up, you're right
That first one sits on tent so it can carry to 20kg. I have one elastic in case that I can hook if there will be something worth hooking on and I will be improvising as it goes.
I am sometimes just scared if I will control it as never I had so many small colas
I don't think I will be adding FIM to my normal repertoire

this is how Phlizon see it

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bit ridiculous

Goddamn! @Sunin has my bud bed ready for my vacation. Looks sick man

 

[Sunin]

nutes or light bleach?

 

[Galgrows]

Thanks for brainstorming.
I won't be putting second grid up, you're right
That first one sits on tent so it can carry to 20kg. I have one elastic in case that I can hook if there will be something worth hooking on and I will be improvising as it goes.
I am sometimes just scared if I will control it as never I had so many small colas
I don't think I will be adding FIM to my normal repertoire

this is how Phlizon see it

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bit ridiculous

lawdy law what a tent full

 

[Sunin]

Oh and there's first for everything. Ordering seeds for years, never used Zamnesia- package from them would be first in my life that have no freebies, not even one rolling paper, forget about some fem
not even thank you for buying- just advert of RQS Mike Tyson line
Will I order again? I doubt it. Unless those autos will surprise me and knock my shoes off

Will roll my sleeves up and try to put up 4X4 tent for this package
I was in the mood for something sweet, fruity and grapy so two sweet ones are for me
Indica Babushka is for my friends mostly - lovely evening smoke, very tasty and cuddly
I like Kalashnikov- their Northern Russian is amazing

We will be keeping second tent in first time theme.
First time autos under LED
First time one of them in one gallon
First time one of them in coco
First time with F1

 

[cbrians]

what if they bite your ear off instead?

 

[Sunin]

what if they bite your ear off instead?

I will bite back

 

[Eledin]

Babushka black auto kills me
As for the canopy wow, thats an overkill I wouldnt mind having! Must be a lot of work though.

 

[Sunin]

Babushka black auto kills me
As for the canopy wow, thats an overkill I wouldnt mind having! Must be a lot of work though.

what?
I am representing Eastern Europe here
Hard work and overkill fits like a glove when it comes to description. With the sprinkle of desperation lol
I like to run Eastern genetics from time to time, sentiment maybe. their AK47 is very very strong. Was growing few of them outdoor- always performed well and were resistant to mother nature

Babushka is delicious. Taste like berry cake after good dinner.
I don't know if my temps will be low enough to properly bring out her colours- I will try as it's really thing to see

It's my last grow here and all the circle of friends will be smoking October and November farewell grows of yours truly.
Christmas I will spend in your country amigo Can't wait

 

[Eledin]

Hahaha babushkas for the win.
Seems like you did a good job during that desperation
I remember some killer AK-47 from years ago. I have not smoked it for years for some reason the popularity decreased a lot. When I was a teenager it was quite common for your supplier to have AK-47. Northern Lights, White Widow, Ak-47 and a couple more were the standard.
I like berry cake, does that mean I like black babushkas?
I feel you about the temps, Im hoping my melonade runtz comes tasty but the heat has me worried, the size of the buds are a bit underwelming and I had some foxtailing going on aswell but it smells amazing. Of course that can mean that your terpenes are being obliterated by the heat and thats why it smells so good
I bet they will enjoy it as much as you do or maybe even more.
Spanish Christmas! Do you have plans?

 

[Sunin]

Hahaha babushkas for the win.
Seems like you did a good job during that desperation
I remember some killer AK-47 from years ago. I have not smoked it for years for some reason the popularity decreased a lot. When I was a teenager it was quite common for your supplier to have AK-47. Northern Lights, White Widow, Ak-47 and a couple more were the standard.

yes. That's that sentiment you see to old genetics hahaha and weed available in the past
Northern was my first bush lol I will grow it from time to time to the end of my life

I like berry cake, does that mean I like black babushkas?

yes! might save you a bud we'll do a swap

I feel you about the temps, Im hoping my melonade runtz comes tasty but the heat has me worried, the size of the buds are a bit underwelming and I had some foxtailing going on aswell but it smells amazing. Of course that can mean that your terpenes are being obliterated by the heat and thats why it smells so good
I bet they will enjoy it as much as you do or maybe even more.
Spanish Christmas! Do you have plans?

I feel for you and the temps. I have opposite problem last few days I'm struggling to keep 28 with humidity 75 around
It changes here in minute. End of August and Sept will be humid and hot like weather for tropical frogs

I have a plan of enjoying not being here Ruben
Will spend some time in Canfranc for sure walking snowy Pyrenees
It's one of my favourite places on earth

 

[BudRanger1919]

not even thank you for buying- just advert of RQS Mike Tyson line

That is insane, no freebies? I have NEVER heard of a weed company (in this line of business) that did not give freebies.
"Hey Sunin, I know you ordered seeds from us and expect some freebies like every company gives out, but here instead is a picture of Mike Tyson"
Get the fuck out of here our poor girl Sunin got ripped off!
I ILLEGALLY ordered seeds like 3 months ago from and I got a wide range of freebies. RQS company ethics dropping below a criminal .

 

[Sunin]

That is insane, no freebies? I have NEVER heard of a weed company (in this line of business) that did not give freebies.
"Hey Sunin, I know you ordered seeds from us and expect some freebies like every company gives out, but here instead is a picture of Mike Tyson"
Get the fuck out of here our poor girl Sunin got ripped off!
I ILLEGALLY ordered seeds like 3 months ago from and I got a wide range of freebies. RQS company ethics dropping below a criminal .

yuup
I don't know what Zamnesia is- I think they gather good few producers- even more freebies should be in except their own merchandise
Naah- nada
I mean rolling papers would be decency why RQS is there I don't know. Mike Tyson- well
I gave faulty HomeBox tent to my newbie friend with some basic setup that I don't need so she was waiting for fem freebie from that package to start her adventure- well....
ah sorry- I got one packing peanut

 

[BudRanger1919]

I don't know what Zamnesia is- I think they gather good few producers- even more freebies should be in except their own merchandise

Forgive me, I am a little bit of a blood hound.. I like sniffing things out! Finding out reasons why etc etc.

I just looked them up, it looks like they are a more popular/trusted amalgamation of different breeders all in 1 seed bank, offering a 1-stop-shop. But... I did see that they DO have their own line of seeds. I can see why they don't give freebies of other breeders seeds, stock and all right? "Hey, we could be selling those freebies, we paid for those!", but I am reading the site right now and I am looking at your seed packs.. 2 of them are branded "Zamnesia" as well as me finding this.

Although this website sells other breeders seeds, 2 of the packs you purchased were Zamnesia brand, so their own seeds. You not getting Zamnesia seed freebies is super weird. I would have been just as disappointed and confused as you.

I gave faulty HomeBox tent to my newbie friend with some basic setup that I don't need so she was waiting for fem freebie from that package to start her adventure- well....

Sadly I think your friend might have to settle with a good clone if you have one to spare. A friend of mine who used to grow but not anymore used to rely on me for all plants haha.