QuarterbackMo
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I must be a genius and so is everybody else who realizes that rdwc is a better choice even for 1 plant... I know im smart but even a dummy can understand that. Thats been my point all along.When you grow a single plant, genius. Got it now? I can't make this any simpler for you.
I concede that you believe you are correct. You realize that what I'm talking about is light-years cheaper, easier, and more robust, but hey if you've got lots of money and space and electricity so you feel swell about leaving your ladies alone for days on end, that's cool.I must be a genius and so is everybody else who realizes that rdwc is a better choice even for 1 plant... I know im smart but even a dummy can understand that. Thats been my point all along.
Ok im even gonna take your approach and say the op doesnt have $100 to spend on a rdwc setup and thats for a nice little setup at that... Why recommend a 5 gallon bucket of all things? Thats not practical at all if anything a 10 gallon tub at the minimum is what I would roll with at the minimum for a standalone 1 plant setup. Anything less then that is big trouble imo... Theres no way you are gonna tell me a 5 gal bucket maintence in week 4 of flower aint worth wasting a few gallons of nutrients every couple weeks either if your gonna try to argue that point next. Theres certain shit you just have to chalk up as being a trade off and ill take time and ease over even the whole 10 gal getting wasted or whatever any day of the week. A 5 gal bucket is prone to way too many problems to even suggest that as a standalone. The only thing i would say a 5 gal bucket would be perfectly suited for would be if you had one clone and needed 20 more and said fuck it im bout to throw this bitch in this one bucket for like a week or so until it grows out 20 good cuts and then kill the plant and put the bucket back in the storage. That literally is the only scenerio i can see dwc in a 5 gal bucket being practical and best suited for the application.I concede that you believe you are correct. You realize that what I'm talking about is light-years cheaper, easier, and more robust, but hey if you've got lots of money and space and electricity so you feel swell about leaving your ladies alone for days on end, that's cool.
I also just read this rofl well I know you aint laughing at my plants anymore so here tell your friends in oregon to put this rdwc bubba og in their pipe and smoke it rofl...I do not feel you, as you are describing a completely inappropriate setup relative to the needs of the OP. And, yes, having worked with 100s of growers, I'm aware that there are different approaches. I'm sure my homies in Oregon would laugh at your plants and your bud quality. Enjoy smoking those leftover nutrients, it will be easy for you to do it though, and it's obvious that's what is most important to you.
My experiences don't correspond to yours. I live in Alaska, not in a very populated place. Nearest grow store is a 10 hour drive in the Summer. I can only get air freight, and it's ex-pen-sive. My electricity regularly browns and multi-hour (sometimes multi-day) outages are monthly to quarterly occurrences. Also, my home has an underground tank for all household water. Since this must delivered when it's -50, it, too, is expensive. The diesel heat, don't even get me started! I grow in a microscopic basement that holds my tent and not much more.Ok im even gonna take your approach and say the op doesnt have $100 to spend on a rdwc setup and thats for a nice little setup at that... Why recommend a 5 gallon bucket of all things? Thats not practical at all if anything a 10 gallon tub at the minimum is what I would roll with at the minimum for a standalone 1 plant setup. Anything less then that is big trouble imo... Theres no way you are gonna tell me a 5 gal bucket maintence in week 4 of flower aint worth wasting a few gallons of nutrients every couple weeks either if your gonna try to argue that point next. Theres certain shit you just have to chalk up as being a trade off and ill take time and ease over even the whole 10 gal getting wasted or whatever any day of the week. A 5 gal bucket is prone to way too many problems to even suggest that as a standalone. The only thing i would say a 5 gal bucket would be perfectly suited for would be if you had one clone and needed 20 more and said fuck it im bout to throw this bitch in this one bucket for like a week or so until it grows out 20 good cuts and then kill the plant and put the bucket back in the storage. That literally is the only scenerio i can see dwc in a 5 gal bucket being practical and best suited for the application.
Rate of nute consumption- instead of a single 5 gal bucket with 3 gallons of water by doing rdwc with another 5 gal bucket right next to it as a control bucket now adds another 3 gallons of water to your total. This allows you a lot more room for error on many different levels to start im gonna start on ph.... In a single bucket setup a plant could eat so much the ph can swing from an acceptable range to something drastic like 6.5+ in no time if they are hungry. In rdwc it would take that same bucket 2x as long for that ph to swing that high. Same goes with the opposite where it doesnt eat at all because it drank all the water and now the 1 gallon left in the bucket is now toxic because its still got 3 gallons worth of food in 1 gallon of water and all this happens in 1 days time as opposed to rdwc where it would take much longer for that drastic of a swing to take place.My experiences don't correspond to yours. I live in Alaska, not in a very populated place. Nearest grow store is a 10 hour drive in the Summer. I can only get air freight, and it's ex-pen-sive. My electricity regularly browns and multi-hour (sometimes multi-day) outages are monthly to quarterly occurrences. Also, my home has an underground tank for all household water. Since this must delivered when it's -50, it, too, is expensive. The diesel heat, don't even get me started! I grow in a microscopic basement that holds my tent and not much more.
With this in mind, please tell me the specific advantages that RDWC presents over DWC relative to
Rate of nutrient consumption
Electrical use
System set up effort
Access to necessary components
Operation when occasionally stored in unheated facilities
Overall expense of pieces
Here's what happens when you grow a single plant in a 5-gallon DWC bucket.View attachment 307105View attachment 307107View attachment 307108
sometimes simple is all you want.i always tell folks looking to try hydro to try a 5 gal dwc setup just for the facts that it is easy to run 1 bucket and very cheap
I have to agree with six....
Okay, so RDWC
Uses more water than DWC
Uses more nutrients
Uses more electricity
Is more difficult and costly to setup
Uses some specialized parts that aren't remotely available
Includes water pumps (remember is gets -50 or -60 here)
And it's more expensive.
So, other than your opinion about how well it works for you (and I'm sure it does), it seems a poor choice for me. Using more consumables and electricity, increasing system complexity and bulk, and spending more money just have no appeal to me.
I know that you can order stuff online. It's expensive here, since there's no ground shipment, only air freight. It can cost more to ship things than the item's cost. And if shipped during about six months, those shipped items will be frozen.
If it gets that cold a pump would help things stay warmer and freeze less. I would say a chow mix in a 10 gal sack would be easier. If I lived that far in the boonies I would want to make sure I had some herb to keep me going crazy in the winter.
The extra nutes you could use to treat your soil for the summer,nothing wasted. If money is that tight to worry about running a small pump a chow mix would help.
Showing pics of bud does not mean crap as to what the sys can do. Its like putting a big tit woman next to a car in the carshow. A fine ride does not need a lot of ads.
JK
Years of running almost everyway you can grow from being dirt poor to money was no object I would say rdwc is better then dwc. And I would say my tanks are the best way to go,but they start at 200 and run over 500 per tank.So that is out of the question here,but you could always copy them.
^^^ I left this thread alone a while ago because of the retardedness being preached but if this guy is telling you rdwc is better then Dwc that's like the nail in the coffin to the argument for the Dwc guys. You guys ain't fuckin with Jalisco Kid this dude is like a 5 star fully decorated general on here. Stop spreading bad advice listen to the pros lol.If it gets that cold a pump would help things stay warmer and freeze less. I would say a chow mix in a 10 gal sack would be easier. If I lived that far in the boonies I would want to make sure I had some herb to keep me going crazy in the winter.
The extra nutes you could use to treat your soil for the summer,nothing wasted. If money is that tight to worry about running a small pump a chow mix would help.
Showing pics of bud does not mean crap as to what the sys can do. Its like putting a big tit woman next to a car in the carshow. A fine ride does not need a lot of ads.
JK
Years of running almost everyway you can grow from being dirt poor to money was no object I would say rdwc is better then dwc. And I would say my tanks are the best way to go,but they start at 200 and run over 500 per tank.So that is out of the question here,but you could always copy them.
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