For the record, I don't fancy myself an expert at anything I've put my mind to. I try to be as well educated and informed as I can be, but I cannot consider myself an expert.

Now, what's really making me chuckle is the bit about the Am Staff's intelligence (times to learn command then times to perform command) versus the Ridgie. Stupidest dog I ever owned was also the dog that learned commands most quickly. Interestingly enough, I've observed the same thing in horses. In any event, I've had my Ridgie for over 5yrs now, and she's been being "trained" to lie down since I got her. She knows precisely what I want, she's got a mind of her own is what I see. Like a Rottie, only worse. Learning commands isn't the only meter of intelligence, I see problem solving as a much better meter. So, we've already got a divergence of opinion just on how to measure their intelligence. Does a dog have to be smart to have stamina and be strong?

IIRC, though, border collies are considered the most intelligent breed, by far. Yeah.. here's another list, and your breed ain't on it. :P
http://www.petmedsonline.org/top-10-smartest-dogs-in-the-world.html

Those dogs all learn new commands on 5 reps or less and obey first command 95% of the time and are top 10 intelligence. But none of them would be in the running for best all around dogs. LOL! We all know how durable and low maintenance the Papillon is. Oh wait, if you take it on a hike a squirrel can injure it. When you play with it they will get knocked out by a frisbee.

I am thinking of getting another dog. In a way I want another Am Staff but I ain't an all around guy anymore. I am kinda wanting an old, fat dude's dog. So just because a dog could be the best all around dog it doesn't make it the best dog for that individual. There are reason to pick dogs as your dog. Maybe an Am Staff would make me get back in shape when I do all the things he/she is going to want to do. I have doubts about myself though. My wife and I are leaning towards a lap dog of some sort.

The best dog is the best dog for you. I was just commenting on the attributes of the Am Staff because the thread was about a pitbull. The dude was going through a situation. Now I understand how if somebody saw something completely messed up they would correct misinformation. Maybe a Lab owner or a Airedale owner. But my god you came flying in from right field saying "that's a load" and then your dog is a Ridgeback. That's like somebody saying the best all around pot (high, ease of growth and yield per grow space) and saying I think it is Original Haze.

Did you even say anything remotely comforting, helpful or insightful to the original post? No. You started off by telling them what is wrong with them. Like you do in just about every thread you get involved in. That is why you have 3000+ posts in 6 months. You think you are a know it all. You bust into many threads the same "I am right you are wrong" way. If you had all those posts and they were"hey dude nice grow" or "How did you do that" or were asking questions that would be cool. We both know that isn't what you do. You use this site like your own Rush Limbaugh show. I only have 1800+ posts in over 3 years. Half of them are trying to make people laugh or feel better. The other half are about my own grows or commenting on other people's grows.

I tried to get along with you. The fact is though I don't like you and I never did. You have rubbed me the wrong way many times. Times I was never involved in, never responded to, things you say and do to other people. The sad part is you do have alot to offer and can be very useful and helpful. That's why I tried to burry the hatchet with you. Well I dug the hatchet up again and now I want to stick it in your head.

You angered me because you didn't try to help the original poster. You just wanted to reprimand him and tell him how much he did wrong.

Then when we were both kinda holding to a truce instead of saying "Hey I don't know if I agree with what you said there" you said "That's a load of BS". You suck at diplomacy. It actually interferes with you being able to help people and share what knowledge you do have. Get some insight.

My message to Mark was don't give up. Work harder to make his outdoor grow a nice one and change his luck. Words of encouragement. Your message just makes people want to walk away from you.

Well at least things are looking better for ya. Hopefully you can find a place where people don't want to profit off your back and where you won't feel the obligations of being a guest. Sounds like you are handling your business better than them and they are jealous of that. They are probably looking for anything they can to bitch about. Bruit may just be a victim of circumstance.

Mark- Good to hear that they were just overreacting and you get to keep your baby!! Im a loyal APBT owner and probably always will be. They are truly wonderful dogs. I too had one get out several years ago, get into a scuffle and get unjustly shot and killed by LEO. It was a big deal since they didn't follow any procedure, but being a APBT there was no justice- so IMVHO - never put down a pit for BS unless you are absolutely forced to. As far as im concerned they'd have to drag my dog away outta cold fucking dead hands. Period. And believe me, i havent hesitated to let pit bull haters hear that/including leo. And i feel ya, there are other dogs that just LOVE to harass a bigger dog and start shit...still means nothing other than the other dog is a dick.

Seamaiden- come of your high horse. You obviously dont know anything about pit bulls and are making generalized statements about dogs, aggression and caring. And frankly, if I was mark id be jumpin your ass for even accusing of not taking care of a dog 'well enough'. You don't know shit about his situation and must not have seen the lives that half of the poor pit bulls (and any dog for that matter) have to endure. To the statement this one has a caring owner, place to sleep, food, and land to move around on says a shit ton more than a lot of dogs Ive seen in my days. Spend some time in the hood and Mark will look like a saint of dog owner. To jump a dude while he is down, is just distasteful and disrespectful. Im sure he didn't start this thread about possibly losing his dog, to be told he didn't even need to have one. Be constructive or shut up IMO-especially when someone might lose a "child"...

And no, if a pit bull gets in a fight unless you have a break stick, no one is probably breakin it up. Most pit bulls in a fight won't stop on command either. They can be dog aggressive, its in the breed. Does it mean they were trained wrong, are aggressive overall or have bad tendencies? Absolutely not. Its all situational and is indicative of absolutely nothing. I've seen teh best behaved/trained pits get in horrible scuffles and still be laying with small dogs, cats and children later. Fights do no mean shit. Every dog does it, but people freak out when its a pit and think it will be continual. Get over it, it wont. Hell both of my pits have grown up around small dogs, cats, and little ankle biting dogs...

And for the record, maybe if actual statistics were out folks would know that Golden retrievers, labs and chihuahuas account for more human dog bites/attacks a year than any of the "aggressive breeds" people wouldnt be so naive. Look it up...CDC even came out and laughed at the statistics being used, put out the actual statistics and said none of those dogs were any more aggressive. In fact there are more ER visits from cat injuries a year.

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Did you even say anything remotely comforting, helpful or insightful to the original post? No. You started off by telling them what is wrong with them. Like you do in just about every thread you get involved in. That is why you have 3000+ posts in 6 months. You think you are a know it all. You bust into many threads the same "I am right you are wrong" way. If you had all those posts and they were"hey dude nice grow" or "How did you do that" or were asking questions that would be cool. We both know that isn't what you do. You use this site like your own Rush Limbaugh show. I only have 1800+ posts in over 3 years. Half of them are trying to make people laugh or feel better. The other half are about my own grows or commenting on other people's grows.

I tried to get along with you. The fact is though I don't like you and I never did. You have rubbed me the wrong way many times. Times I was never involved in, never responded to, things you say and do to other people. The sad part is you do have alot to offer and can be very useful and helpful. That's why I tried to burry the hatchet with you. Well I dug the hatchet up again and now I want to stick it in your head.

You angered me because you didn't try to help the original poster. You just wanted to reprimand him and tell him how much he did wrong.

Then when we were both kinda holding to a truce instead of saying "Hey I don't know if I agree with what you said there" you said "That's a load of BS". You suck at diplomacy. It actually interferes with you being able to help people and share what knowledge you do have. Get some insight.

My message to Mark was don't give up. Work harder to make his outdoor grow a nice one and change his luck. Words of encouragement. Your message just makes people want to walk away from you.

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Tobor- Fucking right on, know you're around bout as much as i am for that shit. Folks don't realize Staffies helped win the war. Its like hemp- who'd they turn to in time of war? AM Staffs. They were the most reliable, dependent and strong dogs for the job. They are the get it done dogs of america, that are now chastised because of a bunch of mis-info and ignorance. A lotta shit folks don't realize about the AmStaff and Pits. Its a shame cuz they are absolutely amazing dogs....

Im sorry to here that

my pit just got in a fight with a wolf hybrid yesterday he is scared up but not bad we threw watter on them and it was over I was lucky.I've never seen my pit fight ,I never thought he had it in him .
sorry to here about your troubles.

Well I still need to get out of this place.To do that I need to make some money soon. Maybe I could lease some land somewhere or give a percentage of a crop for my rent until I can aford my own place? Maybe some where up on the ridge? Not like my trailor is bolted to the ground! I`ve seen a few 215 lease ads each year but never responded to any before. Must be some land owners who`s jobs keep them to involved to run a crop that would be intrested.May even find someone who will rent to own?

Yeah being in cal, and being you, bet ya could give up a percentage for some land space for the trailer...bet some folks would all over that. Good weed and not have to grow it? Sure they'll dig... good luck bro!

I have a guy that would put a road and pad in on his 110 acres with water but he wants 50% of the grow.It`s also a very remote mountain area. I gave 10% on the farm I`m at now but only walked away with 100 lbs this year.It is located right on a main county Hwy half a mile out of town.There were 5 other Co-ops in the area.All it takes is one person to have a male pop up or a hermi plant not get notised and your crop is all seeded! It`s not just finding a place but, finding the right place.

How much can you grow there? Sounds like it may possibly be a situation where being poverty minded prevents you from being successful. Since they want more of the finished product, maybe your bartering can be worked out to provide them with 50% wet and unprocessed. That sounds a lot more fair. So if you made this deal and were able to grow 200lbs you would end up with the same amount except they would either have to process it themselves or pay you to. Which is something else you may be able to squeeze in there, they would have to pay $xx.xx per pound for processing or do it themselves away from your rented space.

The people voted on prop 215 but the law did not include any limits.The state passed prop 420 with limits but it got threw out by the state suprem court because the state cannot effect a law that limits the will of the people.There was an apeal to the US 9th Dist. Fedral Court but they also ruled in favor of the voters rights.Under the state law it has been deturmended that you are allowed to grow and have what amount your doctor recomends for your condition. I am using mmj under a doctors recomendation for my AS and because I have a mental addiction to growing marijuana.My doctor has recomended I have unlimited amounts and quanities to treat both my physical and mental state.I can have or grow any amount I want under the law. I have no limits.

Because of the` Kelly vs. The people` desission being upheld in California everyone is growing and people are moving here like in the days of the gold rush! The market is flooded but much of what is being grown is lower quallity.Good quality still moves but at a much lower price and much slower.Much of the quanity goes to out of state markets now but again much of it is of lower quality than it used to be.I`ve heard people calling Cali weed turkey bag weed in other states.It`s not all krap mind you but much of it is grown by people who till now have never grown before.I`ve been growing for almost 50 years now and my outdoor is hard to tell apart from premium indoor grown.

How can you be broke after pulling 100lbs, Why would you hold out for the market with that much? Dump that shit for $1500- to a broker and watch it fly over a few months youd be sitting on $100k in no time and still be sitting on lbs. Id know alot of people who did out door let it go out of state, got paid, set up indoor and already getting paid for that, now getting ready for spring. Its getting where the flood last so long guys with your weight spend the whole year getting rid of it.
Even if your stuff is high quaility you have to dump it in this market, The people with the crap outdoor cant even move it for any price, I can get shit for cheaper than brick weed but you cant do anything with it, lol

Mark, I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. I have a Labrador x Staffy and an American bulldog. I love my dogs, but I am also aware that some people do not understand how loving they are, and the bulldog is scared of nothing which can be an issue. Our next door neighbours have dogs that run loose, and more than once I have had to break the gang up.

So I had to take responsibility for my dogs and put a fence up.

Get yourself a kennel, a wooden one might not cost much and you can lock it at night to keep the dog in. If you goggle "Crate Train Dog" you will see how to get them used to it, the principle is the same for a kennel.

My two sleep in the garage, in a crate, and they love it, its like their den and I always make it fun for them to in by giving them treats etc.


Pit Bulls are the least understood dog and they truly are an American classic but no dog should be allowed to roam free especially when there is a chance of danger - I learned that once when I had a dog hit by a car.

But it seems like your biggest problem is your neighbours. I have no idea what the situation is but I would try to resolve that problem first or you will always have issues.

I wish you luck Mark, my dogs are like my children and I could never let them go!

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Mark, you sound like a very responsible person and with the ways of Karma your time is coming. You've had a run of bad luck and it is time for some good to come your way. If you think about it the cards are in your favor, this time I'd be a little choosier about who/where you live. I'd bet there are quite a few people who'd trade a little land use for some killer weed.
Our pit bull is afraid of its shadow. One time, after I'd just bought a new screen door, my wife thought it would be cute to scare our pit so she put her hood up on her sweat shirt and charged the fence. That dog turned and ran up the 4 steps and thru my new door in the house up stairs to the bed room leaving a trail of piss the whole way. That dog jumped right thru the middle of my new screen door, she's about 80 lbs. all white and a complete whimp


good luck dude, you sound like you've got things going your way

mal

I`d be happy to sell to a broker if I knew any, may have a deal going to an out of state despencery for some of it when the weather gets well enough.I do have a few options on moving. Both are a little to far away from my kids/grand kids though. One of the two places I can`t grow or keep my dog , The other they want 50% of the grow.I need better options.I`d like a place that I could set up my trailor year round and it wouldn`t be so far in the woods to visit family.Rent/share crop to own would be nice! Once I have my own place things will get intresting! I`ll be able to start some of my rare and elite seeds and do some breeding! Much more intrested in breeding than growing for bud !

pitbulls and parolees, if you are in cali I think they will come and pick the dog up. awesome show, they will take care of your dog and when you are able maybe you can come back and pick him up.