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Cleaned up and ready for flower
 

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Filling in more. Hopefully i will get something decent out of this. They still look like babies 👶
 

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#27
Phreakshow said:
I think i should have left it in veg longer maybe. I Flipped at 2 months. Damn my plants are small. Some day I'll be good at this shit I hope. Going to goof up a couple autos next. 🙃
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2 months of veg is a lot my friend. I suspect is not your fault but rather mediocre seeds. Are those from a bank? What strain? Maybe you can optimize some things to make it better and make them grow better and faster but Ive had very mediocre set ups where my plants where way bigger in less than 2 months so thats why I think its just the seeds not having much potential. You can only push them as much as their genetics allow you to and they look perfectly healthy.
 
#28
Eledin said:
2 months of veg is a lot my friend. I suspect is not your fault but rather mediocre seeds. Are those from a bank? What strain? Maybe you can optimize some things to make it better and make them grow better and faster but Ive had very mediocre set ups where my plants where way bigger in less than 2 months so thats why I think its just the seeds not having much potential. You can only push them as much as their genetics allow you to and they look perfectly healthy.
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They are from Multiverse Genetics. Its the strain black hole breath. Where do you get your seeds i also got some Sofem genetics seeds free. Its a high cbd strain with a modest amount of thc.
 
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Eledin said:
2 months of veg is a lot my friend. I suspect is not your fault but rather mediocre seeds. Are those from a bank? What strain? Maybe you can optimize some things to make it better and make them grow better and faster but Ive had very mediocre set ups where my plants where way bigger in less than 2 months so thats why I think its just the seeds not having much potential. You can only push them as much as their genetics allow you to and they look perfectly healthy.
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Agreed here 2months veg is a long veg time. Most likely genetics at fault. Plants look good so I doubt it’s environmental or grower induced
 
#30
Phreakshow said:
They are from Multiverse Genetics. Its the strain black hole breath. Where do you get your seeds i also got some Sofem genetics seeds free. Its a high cbd strain with a modest amount of thc.
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I dont know the bank but looking at the price of that strain and their seeds in general I would expect way more. Im sure someone from the US can hook you up or give you a reputable bank to buy from, Im from Spain, EU, so its quite different here. We dont have as many breeders but thanks to that we know what to expect from every single one. For what you got I wouldnt pay more than 2 euros per seed honestly, you got them healthy and theyre not giving back.
 
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That said youre gonna get very nice buds, its not about that but rather the quantity you should get with such long veg time. Youre gonna enjoy it Im sure, its just not as good in terms of productivity as others.
 
#33
Also now that you flipped they will be stretching for 3 weeks and you will be passing more branched through the net so it will look much more full, when I lollipop my grow looks kinda sad but after the stretch its much better and when the buds fatten you can see its worth it.
 
#34
I will post some pics of my last good SCROG so you can see how much it changes during flower. Also you will see how these seeds are able to fully cover the net in less than 2 months. Ignore the small pots in the end I only had the 4 big pots because I had to move the small ones except 2 that gave me 2 buds, the big ones shadowed them later in the grow. 4 7 gallon pots in 3x3x6feet. Lights being used here are 2x150W chinese LEDs.
Late veg:
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Introduction of the net, looks uneven for now but temporarily
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Early flower, canopy is way more even now that I had time to pass branches:
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Lollipop at week 2-3 of flower. Added 2 additional 26W bars because some went too far away from the lights close to the doors, these panels are very compact which isnt good but they were a bargain.
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Late flower, aprox 1-2 weeks from chopping, some buds are foxtailing a bit because of the heat but it was a nice grow despite that.
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Eledin said:
I will post some pics of my last good SCROG so you can see how much it changes during flower. Also you will see how these seeds are able to fully cover the net in less than 2 months. Ignore the small pots in the end I only had the 4 big pots because I had to move the small ones except 2 that gave me 2 buds, the big ones shadowed them later in the grow. 4 7 gallon pots in 3x3x6feet. Lights being used here are 2x150W chinese LEDs.
Late veg:
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Introduction of the net, looks uneven for now but temporarily
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Early flower, canopy is way more even now that I had time to pass branches:
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Lollipop at week 2-3 of flower. Added 2 additional 26W bars because some went too far away from the lights close to the doors, these panels are very compact which isnt good but they were a bargain.
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Late flower, aprox 1-2 weeks from chopping, some buds are foxtailing a bit because of the heat but it was a nice grow despite that.
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Dude that's sweet. That bud looks tasty. I'm in a 3×3 also. I have some branches that are impossible to bend. My canopy is going to be a mess lol.
 
#37
Phreakshow said:
They are from Multiverse Genetics. Its the strain black hole breath. Where do you get your seeds i also got some Sofem genetics seeds free. Its a high cbd strain with a modest amount of thc.
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I wouldn't worry about the size of the plant. It's indica dominant and in the marketing they say it's a compact plant. That means small. And indicas are almost always on the small side to begin with. And you may get a good stretch out of her. And genetics are just all over the damn place now. And then all the whack unstable phenotypes within the hybrid fufu weed we got now days. It's a cluster fuck. I've been doing test grows for a local breeder for two years or better and I don't think he has anything worth paying money for. I told him no test grows in 2025. Finishing out what we got going and I'm done. So I started shopping for seed. It's brutal out there in the market. And I've been at this since the 1970's and have never paid for seed,,, never. I ended up at Royal Queen Seeds and FastBuds. Blew $200 and licked my wounds. I saw pricing that made me want to turn the lights off and move the tents to the street.
 
#38
Blastfact said:
I wouldn't worry about the size of the plant. It's indica dominant and in the marketing they say it's a compact plant. That means small. And indicas are almost always on the small side to begin with. And you may get a good stretch out of her. And genetics are just all over the damn place now. And then all the whack unstable phenotypes within the hybrid fufu weed we got now days. It's a cluster fuck. I've been doing test grows for a local breeder for two years or better and I don't think he has anything worth paying money for. I told him no test grows in 2025. Finishing out what we got going and I'm done. So I started shopping for seed. It's brutal out there in the market. And I've been at this since the 1970's and have never paid for seed,,, never. I ended up at Royal Queen Seeds and FastBuds. Blew $200 and licked my wounds. I saw pricing that made me want to turn the lights off and move the tents to the street.
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I have 4 autos from fast buds to grow. I fucked up the last one and want a rematch. Last year my outdoor grow was all Barney's Farm seed and it did pretty good. For this outdoor season coming up i bought from Herbies seeds. Hopefully these will do well.
 
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#39
PooToe said:
@Eledin

You can go with less plants looking at how tall your plants are. I ran 5 plants in a 5 x 5 and pulled almost 5 lbs.
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Nice! Thats a very good quantity. Whats your approach? I just top and lollipop. Mine are usually compact too but then during flower they skyrocket but thats why I have the net for, even out the canopy as they grow. I dont do LST prior to the net because Im a lazy fuck and that reduces my coverage and production but overall Im pretty happy.
 
#40
Blastfact said:
I wouldn't worry about the size of the plant. It's indica dominant and in the marketing they say it's a compact plant. That means small. And indicas are almost always on the small side to begin with. And you may get a good stretch out of her. And genetics are just all over the damn place now. And then all the whack unstable phenotypes within the hybrid fufu weed we got now days. It's a cluster fuck. I've been doing test grows for a local breeder for two years or better and I don't think he has anything worth paying money for. I told him no test grows in 2025. Finishing out what we got going and I'm done. So I started shopping for seed. It's brutal out there in the market. And I've been at this since the 1970's and have never paid for seed,,, never. I ended up at Royal Queen Seeds and FastBuds. Blew $200 and licked my wounds. I saw pricing that made me want to turn the lights off and move the tents to the street.
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Youre right the seeds are not bad I just realized he toped way too early if he wanted to cover more space.
 
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