Rdwc And Coco Coir Adventures #nobubbles

[mandalaman]

Please dont take this the wrong way

there is no way to tell me that I am reading incorrectly

I am sorry
It specifically states they are the ONLY conpany that makes an agro cmh lamp

read the first sentence over again
please

I have also explained the chart and the last paragraph
but obviously you skipped over my explanation

DO TO ADVERTISING REGULATIONS YOU CANNOT USE OTHER MANUFACTURES ITEMS TO CONPARE TO YOUR OWN UNLESS PERMISSION IS GRANTED!!!!

that is the entire reason why they compared their own industrial lamps with their agro lamp
because they cant compare their product to other company's products

Wisher it states within Phillips there is only ONE Agro CMH. I don't know why you're taking it any other way. I'm so confused. Sorry for bringing it back up.

 

[mandalaman]

Check these. Changing the Rez. True color shot

 

[Wisher619]

So let's not spread misinformation. Will you please read the entire article AND chart. I don't think you have.

this is NOT mis information
this is TRUTH
I have read the entire thing iver and over just to see if I am missing something

just for your benefit because I want to appease you and what you are saying
but what I am saying is correct

I am not bashing in any way Philips
they probably make the Best cmh hands down

I was simply stating that this advertisement is soreading false information to sell to the consumer

case in point
you telling me that I am wrong in my perception

furthering the point even if you dont purchase theres
you may think that the graph is correct and that the spectrum that the agro lamp they have is the spectrum that is needed for plant growth
which is not
because if you compare that agro lamp to the mccree curv it dosnt even come close
and that is what plants need


I have never given false info to anyone
and I am not gonna start now

I have no part in any products and get no funds for explaining how advertisement works
it is what it is

if you want to use a cmh and ask what my opinion is I will give you all the options for that product with all brands and help compare prices with usage and personal accounts from people that have used them
or give personal accounts into my own grows and what has worked and not worked for me

 

[mandalaman]

Ok, ok. I just think you may be misinterpreting the first sentence as it is ambiguous. And I see where you're coming from. But how do you explain the 3 lights they compare the spectrum on are all Phillips bulbs and they are pointing out only one of the Phillips bulbs has the Agro centric spectrum with more red than the other two Phillips.

Try interpreting this as being confined solely to Phillips. And instead of saying Phillips is the only one with an Agro bulb they are saying the "Phillips Elite Agro" (the actual name of a specific bulb Phillips has part number 315/T12) is the only true Agro bulb within the Phillips line of CMH. Does that make sense?

 

[mandalaman]

And I'm not intending to attack you. Or question your knowledge. I'm very appreciative of you and your help. Seriously.

I had to read through that 4 times before it clicked. So I get it. But anyway I shouldn't have pressed it. No purpose. So I'm sorry.

 

[Wisher619]

Wisher it states within Phillips there is only ONE Agro CMH. I don't know why you're taking it any other way. I'm so confused. Sorry for bringing it back up.

wrong

read it again
the first sentence again

you are adding what is not there

the entire point of me pointing out that the advertisement has clearly NOT worked on you because for some reason you arent actually reading it but what is called paraphrase skimming
you quicly read and then your brain paraphrases and gives your consious a summary

you are adding words that are not there

it clearing states
again I quote
"There is only one ceramic metal halide lamp, the 315w CDM by Philips Lighting"
nowhere does it state that they are strictly talking Philips products

english language
there is a comma seperating a statement and another
statement
there is only one agro cmh
philips makes the only agro lamp

 

[mandalaman]

And I'm not questioning the validity of whether the Agro bulb from Phillips is the best bulb for plants. So that may be my fault for not following what you were saying.

 

[mandalaman]

Ok. Not worth arguing over. Can we agree to disagree. I apologize for slighting you with the misinformation comment.

 

[Wisher619]

And I'm not intending to attack you. Or question your knowledge. I'm very appreciative of you and your help. Seriously.

I had to read through that 4 times before it clicked. So I get it. But anyway I shouldn't have pressed it. No purpose. So I'm sorry.

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plants are looking good by the way
and there is no problem with you pressing

if I was annoyed I would have dropped it as well
but I pressed as well because I wanted you to understand it
mo hard feelings

 

[Wisher619]

again
the advertising clearly didnt work on you because for some reason your brain didnt pick it up

that is a good thing

that means it may be harder for adverts to manipulate your thinking

no arguing

 

[mandalaman]

again
the advertising clearly didnt work on you because for some reason your brain didnt pick it up

that is a good thing

that means it may be harder for adverts to manipulate your thinking

no arguing

Lol. Ok I can agree with that :)

 

[Wisher619]

the reason why I pick up on stuff like that is because I have had the training
I dont get manipulated but because I see it immediatley and steer from the adverts
others dont pick up on it because they dont see it but at the same time it dosnt work on them because they dont pick up on it

to me it is fun to see things kinda like when they used to make those pixelated pictures and you have to train your eyes to see what is hiding in the picture

 

[Wisher619]

Check these. Changing the Rez. True color shot

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the color looks great
and they have filled out very fast
from your edward scissorhands

 

[EventHorizan]

I have used both Botanicare brick coco to Cana Coco
right now I am using the Cana Bag stuff
I have never charged my coco ever
those days are long gone
old schoolers do it still
the ons that had to back in the day...those people are just wasting time IMO
so for the brick
I put in a tote and fill with ro water and close the lid......a day or 2 later it is good to go
I then fill a pot and plant directly into it
as for the bag
I open fill pot and plant
with all types of coco
I immediately feed with full strength
even from seed
of which I also plant directly
@EventHorizan can attest to this
he was shocked as well
tail pops
into the coco @1.5 ec

fo feeding and watering there are to methods and both work
1. Top feeding
with this you can do one of 2 things
water every day till about 5-10% runoff
or allow to go 50% dry then water to 15% runoff
2. Sips
sit you planter in a bin of some sort and pour your feed into the bottom
fill the feed about 1" up from bottom (with standard pots or square pots)
when the feed is about dry in the basin you refill

in any case you need the coco to stay moist at all times
with coco you are feeding the coco not the plant in turn the coco feeds the plant
just like nature
this is also why I like the sips method when I am not flowering in my set up
my setup is run with Drain to Waste because I like automation
but for my veg plants I just use sips

yep! I attest! He did!

flood and sips are similar but differ
flood would be when you have plants in a tray and you flood the tray
the nutrient rich water fills the tray and the plants soak it in
then then it drains back down
basically feeding from the bottom

ultimately when I build my room out that is what I will be running
also when I get my seedling and lettuce trays built I will be running that as well

what other things can I grow in 2 months start to finish? Tomatoes?

this is one of tge reasons why I think forums like tgese are so important in combating this type of advert
we con openly for the most part
dispell myths about growing
or help steer in the right direction
by people whom have used many products and or grown with many differ styles and have vast knowledge in what they are doing

if you take notice
alot of the big growers on these forums do there own thing
alot use there own salt mixes and or just agg salts like JR peters
there are some people that are big and use things like Advanced or Canna
which are good nutrients

I used Botanicare CNS17 for the longest with great success
and not one of my friends could tell the difference between there grows and mine when sharing strains
and I get CNS17 for 20.00 a gallon
shit my last run I used Grow the whole run no bloom
came out perfect
again
many myths and misnomers in this industry
all there to upsell anything they can
and new growers and people that dont know will throw hard earned cash at what ever will make them better
when it isnt the product you are using but your enviroment and understanding that will up your game
and with most
the better growers become
the simpler the feed and process they use become
less is more
standardize

 

[EventHorizan]

I can't stand sales or salesman. .. Slimy lot....
freaking Directv, Verizon. My electric company. All slimy!! Oil change place....
I just want to move off in the forest and hill of Northern Washington State. 3000 watts solar powered cabin...

 

[Wisher619]

I can't stand sales or salesman. .. Slimy lot....
freaking Directv, Verizon. My electric company. All slimy!! Oil change place....
I just want to move off in the forest and hill of Northern Washington State. 3000 watts solar powered cabin...

you and me both

I try to steer away from everything

adverts are the worst
TV
Internet
I completely got rid of 2facebook
I dont use google

it is nuts

 

[Wisher619]

yep! I attest! He did!

what other things can I grow in 2 months start to finish? Tomatoes?

a really fast tomato
or pepper
but not from cutting or seed
it would have to be from an already flowering plant

 

[mandalaman]

Some roots and stuff during Rez change. :)

 

[GrowGod]

Healthy root zone man!

 

[mandalaman]

Healthy root zone man!

No airstones or anything in the buckets with roots helped a lot!