Funny, it would seem that aquashield is just poultry litter but it is actually inoculated with a bacteria that eats pythium. the bacteria colonizes the roots and then keeps pyth from eating them.
I put the UCRoots in an ebb and flo that had pyth. I threw the rotting clones out but didn't clean the system thoroughly and just added UCroots to a semi-clean table and it was amazing! the table stayed clean. when I put those clones in my Uc they took a turn again. other growers have said it was just a kind of root chnge that I was seeing in the UC and that it happens when you move young clones from the ebb and flo veg to my big 12 place UC. It totally freaked me out but I stayed steady and just put about 6-10ml per gallonplus dyna bloom to about 275 and tried to re-grow the roots and it worked. took 2 weeks but my plants are ginormous now! so happy!
My last case of pyth I lost my whole 12 place crop. I screwed around with h2o2, pythoff, bleach, fungicide....probably dumped my system everyday or every other day for 3 weeks and then finally just gave up. SUCKED. I think the problem that time was I would kill the pyth with those products but then would add back nutes and it was burning the young, rotting compromised roots.
I truly believe from my experience that you have to kill the pyth with a chloramine type product but then you have to have something in there to colonize and protect plus something that will feed them just enough without burning the growing roots. For me, aquashiled was it.
I have been cloning with pargro and root riots and folowing Ds' properly way to root forum. Ran all kinds of tests with rockwool, pargro, root riots, h2o2. Now I use 1.5 pargro dyna and aquashield and my roots are insane. Going to get my ezcloner going again and try to go back to cloner to UC, it has worked the best thus far. h202 and coco didntdo well for me. that is what rotted the first time. rockwool and pargro are great. Just do not like the ebb and flo for veg because of the weird root change. My best run was cloner to Uc with aquashield in my cloner, no weird root change and hardening off just t5 ezcloner then right in. This time I am going to do AQ and Dyna in the cloner.Would love an oxygen product that worked with AQ but the results are stillamazing. air stones will have to do. wish h202 would have worked better. ireally wanted to use it but it didnt work for me.
UCROOTS ROCKS! waaaaaaay better than zone! will always use for pyth!
good luck! heres the ladies 10 or so days into bloom!! YESSSS!
I hope you guys don't mind me posting here cause it's about ebb and flow. I am doing it cause you UC guys seem to have the most experience with all things to do with roots...
I followed DS's cloning method for the most part and had my best clones ever...my problem is that after the root in Rapid R'trs I then put them into 3" RW cubes, watered them with a solution of RO water,
Hormex, Rapid Start, GreatWhite,
Superthrive, and a 450 ppm nute solution...ph'd to 5.6...they popped out the bottom with nice fat hairy white roots in only two to three days....and I was happy....then they stopped. Plants were still healthy, I had the cubes sitting on top of propagation tray inserts...I am guessing they air pruned ? Anyway I took them and put them into plastic trays with hydroton in the bottom. The were still growing and they look great, just not the roots, well not much. The last batch of clones I had, I put them in Perlite and the roots totally covered the bottom of the cube, what i mean is the whole bottom of the RW cube was all roots, you could not see any RWool hardly, then when i put them in the perlite the kept growing and by the time i put them in the flood tray the roots were about 2 inches long.
Not this time though. I know I am using a lot of additives, but I did the same last time when they did so good growing into perlite. This time they just sort of languished, the roots didn't die or turn brown they just sort of stopped. Anyway I went ahead and got them in the flood tray and they are still not doing that good. I was thinking maybe I should do what I saw on one of these UC threads. They said that when they were vegging before going into the UC they would not water until the plants hit what he called the Temporary Wilt Point...matter of fact I think it was DS.
Anyway, I am stuck with flood trays for now and i think the secret to flood trays is getting the absolutely best freaking roots going as possible. So if anyone doesn't mind, I would love to know what you guys would do. Am I using too many additives? Maybe just stick with the
Technaflora Recipe for Success. I just put them into flower so that should amp them up...fuck i am rambling....I would just like to get killer roots for once.
