ROUND 2: Ben Derdundat ,The Under Current & 30,000 watts.... The Evolution Continues

Ben Derdundat · Nov 8, 2010

U C Truth said:
I wanna change out my airstones next round thou and for my other room now what are the airlines all about and your diffusers and how and where did u install them I don't quite understand the clip zip tie thing u showed can u ellaborate before those bad boys get to big?

Using zip tie anchors to hold your air stones in place was just hypothetical. I don't use them. When I first ran the Under Current, I ran it with the air stones it came with and placed them in the center of the buckets at the bottom. bd

GreenForrest said:
Hi there Ben, very nice work. What brand dehumidifier do you have in there?

Thanks!
I use Phoenix dehumidifiers. They are the 200 HT models. These particular models will remove a maximum of 32 gallons a day at saturation and come with a condensate pump. They are not cheap... In the range of $2,500 each but, well worth it for me. bd

HannaMan said:
If the chiller is capable of cooling say, 500 gallons, but you're only cooling the water in the cool coil lines and a 15 gallon reservoir, he's only cooling about 20 gallons of water with a chiller capable of cooling 500 gallons.....

I don't see the logic in this, and am trying to get a better understanding of why he would need such a large chiller to cool such little amounts of water.....

Say you have TWO SYSTEMS, same room, different chillers.

(1)One is a UCXL16, chiller+cool coil combo.
(2)the other is a UCXL16, chiller+cool coil combo.

The first system (1) has a 1/2 hp chiller.
The second system (2) has a 2 hp chiller.

They're both going to cool the coils (closed circuit, 20,30,40,50 gallons), and once they do, both coils will draw heat out just as efficiently..

SO WHY THE 2HP CHILLER? It's not going to take 2HP worth of chilling power to cool the amount of water in the closed circuit...

Edit: I dont mean to hi-jack the thread, either!! Sorry!

HaHa! No worries...
I will say this though....

There is something that you haven't considered... Power consumption. The smaller chiller will be running more and in turn using more power. Not only that, it will also put off more heat. If it is set outside then this shouldn't be an issue but, if it is located inside of the building, it will be. Also take into account that I am chilling near 800 gallons. Not 20 like you mentioned before. bd

el boyo · Nov 10, 2010

looking fantastic as usual ben.. keep up the excellent work, and i will keep watching and learning..

on tilt · Nov 10, 2010

Nice Upgrades!

Wow Ben, nice upgrades! Cant imagine you could be smash-in it more... You'll think of something. Best of luck on this run. I'll keep it tuned in.

UNVME · Nov 10, 2010

Nice!! Any updates? :)

aRiv · Nov 11, 2010

sick room! any more shots or details on the motorized winch setup?

f1ydave · Nov 11, 2010

aRiv said:
sick room! any more shots or details on the motorized winch setup?

electric winches are $60, whats to know?

aRiv · Nov 11, 2010

maybe a shoot or 2 how he framed everything up?

RMCG · Nov 14, 2010

Ben, How are you liking the Oxygen Shield diffusers?

jimmyhoffa59 · Nov 14, 2010

Ah that Frost king insulation wrap is actually available (at least where I live) only at Lowes. I went to home depot and I got the bert stare when I asked for it. I actually prefer Lowes anyways since they give me a daily 10% Veteran Discount unlike Home Ripoff they wont. Clowns.. anyways.. hope everyone else can find the stuff.

Ben Derdundat · Nov 15, 2010

Update: Fower Room #1

aRiv said:
maybe a shoot or 2 how he framed everything up?

Sorry, No pictures of the framing...

RMCG said:
Ben, How are you liking the Oxygen Shield diffusers?

They are working well.... I also am using Sweet Water glass-bonded diffusers in my veg. room which seem to be working well too.... I'm not sure which I like best yet. bd

Here we are into the second week...:happy

Day 8

Day 9

Day 12

Day 13

Day 14

motherlode · Nov 15, 2010

damn thats a mighty fine canopy - looks great bro - Im subbing in!

Ben Derdundat · Nov 15, 2010

Flower Room #2 : Vegetative Growth

This round I am going to veg. and flower my plants in this room. I am also going to be doing a side by side experiment between the two systems in this room as well. I installed an Oxy-Gen from OSO Research & Development on system #1 in this room. In short it is supposed to separate the oxygen from the H2O and leave it suspended in the water. In turn, Raising the oxygen levels and negatively charging the ions in the water. To make my life a little bit easier I also installed continuous read meters for my tanks... bd:nerd

Oxy-Gen

Meters for my tanks

Day 3

Day 4

Day 5

Day 7

System #1 (Oxy-Gen)

System #2

RMCG · Nov 15, 2010

Going to be interesting to see the Oxy-Gen in action.

Aligee · Nov 15, 2010

yeah your rooms looks superb bro damn just amazing to say the least !!! im subscribed...

Ben Derdundat · Nov 15, 2010

Veg. Room: Vegetative Growth

Since I will be vegging in my flower room, I decided that I will flower in my veg. room this round as well.... In this room, system #1 will be growing Skywalker O.G. and system #2 will be growing Purple Kush.... bd:smiley_joint:

Day 1

Purple Kush

Skywalker O.G.

Day 3

Purple Kush

Skywalker O.G.

Day 5

Purple Kush

Skywalker O.G.

Day 6

Purple Kush

Skywalker O.G.

jimmyhoffa59 · Nov 15, 2010

Yikes what is doing on with all the yellowing and some lower wilting on the others, some big deficiency or what? Your room is SUPER charged are you experimenting with something with your nutes or what? No insult intended just curious they are not looking too healthy. Should bounce back nice though.

Shady · Nov 15, 2010

Oh damn... even your veg room is super clean! How much lights are you running in there Ben? :wondering

motherlode · Nov 15, 2010

word shady - I dig how he setup the veg area

hey ben you dont have issues with the big rockwool cubes staying too wet?

Ben Derdundat · Nov 15, 2010

jimmyhoffa59 said:
Yikes what is doing on with all the yellowing and some lower wilting on the others, some big deficiency or what? Your room is SUPER charged are you experimenting with something with your nutes or what? No insult intended just curious they are not looking too healthy. Should bounce back nice though.

None taken...
You are right. The plants in the veg. room went in a little beat up. They were some of the left over plants from another project. I was originally going to throw them out and started to neglect them but, then decided to give them a home at the last minute... They are starting to snap out of it.

Shady said:
Oh damn... even your veg room is super clean! How much lights are you running in there Ben? :wondering

Thanks Shady!
I have 6,000 watts in my veg. room and all of them are dual arc.

motherlode said:
word shady - I dig how he setup the veg area

hey ben you dont have issues with the big rockwool cubes staying too wet?

No... No issues here. Its all about placement in relation to water levels. Not sure what you consider big rock wool cubes but, the ones I use are only 4X2.

motherlode · Nov 15, 2010

cool - I use 3" - a few threads I read had me all paranoid about using them so I took new cuts of my wifi in 1 inch cubes.

just now starting to get roots to the bottoms of the netpots, the delay worked out good anyhow - gave me more time to get the room dialed in

appreciate you taking the time to answer all the posters in your thread!

keep it green bro - peace

ROUND 2: Ben Derdundat ,The Under Current & 30,000 watts.... The Evolution Continues

ROUND 2: Ben Derdundat ,The Under Current & 30,000 watts.... The Evolution Continues

Ben Derdundat

el boyo

on tilt

UNVME

aRiv

f1ydave

aRiv

RMCG

jimmyhoffa59

Ben Derdundat

motherlode

@Rolln_J

Ben Derdundat

RMCG

Aligee

Ben Derdundat

jimmyhoffa59

Shady

Chillin' in the Shade...

motherlode

@Rolln_J

Ben Derdundat

motherlode

@Rolln_J

ROUND 2: Ben Derdundat ,The Under Current & 30,000 watts.... The Evolution Continues

ROUND 2: Ben Derdundat ,The Under Current & 30,000 watts.... The Evolution Continues

Ben Derdundat

el boyo

on tilt

UNVME

aRiv

f1ydave

aRiv

RMCG

jimmyhoffa59

Ben Derdundat

motherlode

@Rolln_J

Ben Derdundat

RMCG

Aligee

Ben Derdundat

jimmyhoffa59

Shady

Chillin' in the Shade...

motherlode

@Rolln_J

Ben Derdundat

motherlode

@Rolln_J

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