Running into Defiency after flushing?

steamroller · Feb 26, 2023

I would decrease light.
By either raising it or lowering the intensity.
Old leaves will not recover.
Watch the new growth.
I use a cheap $10 meter to help myself and plants with watering.

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I think your issues are water and light.
I am NOT a organic grower as situations like you are having take weeks to correct organically.
I like synthetics for my slow diagnosis skills.
Here is the thread on growing organic that will help you.

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TSD · Feb 26, 2023

Justooo said:
everything was fine until a couple days ago

Just a note on this, no it probably wasn't... symptoms you're seeing in soil/organics are from whatever was going on at least a week or so ago... it's not a fast fix situation. Organics take time to break down and be available for uptake. Always decrease light when you have sick ladies. Do you have a moisture meter, and if so where are you sticking the probe?

steamroller · Feb 26, 2023

Flushing is a taboo subject in any grow medium.
In organics it is a no no and if you didn't fuck up to NEED it you fucked up doing it.
In synthetic the nutrients you flush were installed by you.
In organics the nutrients are in the soil. Think of organic soil like the bank.
When you flush organic you rob the bank.
Without adding back it has not enough left to do much.
I wanted to go organic but had huge timing pitfalls in my first and only attempt and went back to synthetic.
Many here will dis agree with this but you can use synthetic ferts in your organic soil.
You may need some if you flushed too much. Just how I think about it.??
Nothing good happens fast, but organic is even slower IMO.
Like TDS said, these issues did not just show up.
It takes as long to walk out of a forest as it does to walk in.

TSD · Feb 26, 2023

He might even consider a transplant to new soil... it's hard to know what's left, what's gone, what needs to be put back. He didn't really do enough water for a true flush... but still. I think there's probably some environmental stress happening too.

TSD · Feb 26, 2023

Not that I'd usually transplant sick plants... but if nothing improves it's an option.

TSD · Feb 26, 2023

Justooo said:
Yes they would be perky, after a couple days and soil starts drying out they begin to droop. I water, they perk back up in only an hour or so. And mannn everyone else saying they see no issue with nitrogen, this be confusing me lol.

I mean they are a little dark, but that's not the end of the world, could just be the light in the pic making it look darker... they will use up excess N pretty quickly in veg as long as they're growing. Have you raised or dimmed the light?

Goodshit97 · Feb 26, 2023

TSD said:
Not that I'd usually transplant sick plants... but if nothing improves it's an option.

Ive transplanted sick plants as a last resort, it actually worked out well. Was able to bring her back and then took 15 clones from it, then i got rid of that plant and started a new mom from one of the clones

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

TSD said:
I mean they are a little dark, but that's not the end of the world, could just be the light in the pic making it look darker... they will use up excess N pretty quickly in veg as long as they're growing. Have you raised or dimmed the light?

I dimmed the light from 75 to 60 and raised it from 28 inches to 34-35 inches from top of canopy

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

GNick55 said:
they look to be needing to be watered again.,
water them when lights come on.,
how big are those bags?
how much water do you use for each one?

They are 5 gal bags. And I water until some drips out the bottom. So roughly 4 liters

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

TSD said:
Just a note on this, no it probably wasn't... symptoms you're seeing in soil/organics are from whatever was going on at least a week or so ago... it's not a fast fix situation. Organics take time to break down and be available for uptake. Always decrease light when you have sick ladies. Do you have a moisture meter, and if so where are you sticking the probe?

No moisture meter. Ballin on a budget. I’m abt to hit my local store to get a recharge pack, I’ll see if they have one

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

Photos this morning, very sad looking. Both are dropping now. Pots are light to pick up. Still confused what to do, thinking about adding some wormcastings or a a half dose of all purpose so it can break down in a couple weeks if that is the issue.

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

Justooo said:
Photos this morning, very sad looking. Both are dropping now. Pots are light to pick up. Still confused what to do, thinking about adding some wormcastings or a a half dose of all purpose so it can break down in a couple weeks if that is the issue.

Any recommended products? My local store has pretty much the whole fox farm bottled line including microbe brew

TSD · Feb 26, 2023

If they're light you should probably water.. they do look dry.

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

Products available locally. Was thinking getting this fox farm boomerang comeback formula

steamroller · Feb 26, 2023

A moisture meter is $10.
It will tell what is going on in the pot.
I used mine every grow?

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The yellow leaves down low may not be a big concern. No new or good growth will come that low. Plants naturally consume mobile nuets so if that is what is going on then a good regular fert should fix.
The wilt is an issue.
I used FF Grow Big ,Big bloom and Wholly mackerel in veg.
Then went to the three powder ferts for flower Open Sesame, Beastie blooms, and Cha Ching.

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

steamroller said:
A moisture meter is $10.
It will tell what is going on in the pot.
I used mine every grow?

New Simplified Way to Water Marijuana Plants

To know if you need to water your cannabis plant get yourself a soil meter. Poke or drill 4 holes in your pot 1/4 way up from the bottom spaced around the pot...

www.thcfarmer.com

The yellow leaves down low may not be a big concern. No new or good growth will come that low. Plants naturally consume mobile nuets so if that is what is going on then a good regular fert should fix.
The wilt is an issue.
I used FF Grow Big ,Big bloom and Wholly mackerel in veg.
Then went to the three powder ferts for flower Open Sesame, Beastie blooms, and Cha Ching.

Yeah they don’t have them here. I’d have to order it off Amazon or try to find another store, which I live out in the country so not too many options

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

Think I’m going to give this try, has the major micro nutrients and claims to help bring back microbes

GNick55 · Feb 26, 2023

Justooo said:
They are 5 gal bags. And I water until some drips out the bottom. So roughly 4 liters

ok sounds about right

Justooo · Feb 26, 2023

GNick55 said:
ok sounds about right

Check latest photo and let me know what ya think

GNick55 · Feb 26, 2023

Justooo said:
Think I’m going to give this try, has the major micro nutrients and claims to help bring back microbes

ask them there and see what they offer,

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