[lino]

This seed will go into a different classification in my journal under the CaveMandica4.20 seed pack ID, "BigCavers Clean Cut"" this is a big seed with a narrow bottom, again, I'm not getting into tek name for now.

I'm going to grem 2 from the CaveMandica4.20 seed pack BigCavers seed classification.

 

[lino]

Oh OO, IDK, hard to ID this seed - she going to go into "BigCavers" she a Big Girl, why do I say big girl FAT BOTTOM, Big League Fat Bottom! she got a big hole, and 2 carpal

Farmers are like the dude to right, they only b seeing the Fat Bottoms...

 

[lino]

This is another big one going into classigication "BigCavers" and she another Fat Bottom Girl, nice pretty big hole and apical tip is very perky,,, she a fine specimen.

I was think about propagating this one. The Seed , the seed.. lol

 

[Psychonaut47]

Those beans @epitome gifted you share brothers as fathers so do you think you can identify under the scope common traits that must be from the fathers/brothers since all the females where different but they all shared the brothers as fathers I think four fathers were used maybe just two, in a 4X8 of 20+ clone only females including Bubba Kush's and Bubba kush crosses, there was og18 and sour chem in there too with some church and blueberry and afghani, maybe even some slee stack or atleast some phenos that looked identical to photo used for the sleestack....it was a fun project I wish I had more involvement....hey there was even a high cbd that snuck in there, I will go look for a pic because this was no indica well you tell me...

 

[Psychonaut47]

 

[lino]

so this shit get deep quick,, Farmer dont want my scientfic names , but I scratch my head and ask:

I hear the answers online and in skool but I still ponder, Is cannabis a Nut, Legume, Achene, Caryopsis, Follicle, Capsule or Samara? twist me up , keeps me up at nite.

And now new scientific names for cannabis , cannabis family tree was wrong like I said it was incorrect., its still not rite.

 

[Psychonaut47]

This seed will go into a different classification in my journal under the CaveMandica4.20 seed pack ID, "BigCavers Clean Cut"" this is a big seed with a narrow bottom, again, I'm not getting into tek name for now.

I'm going to grem 2 from the CaveMandica4.20 seed pack BigCavers seed classification.

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this is intense and the caveman4.20 crew thanks you.... @Mmjcaveman from 3 a light or success nutrients is not the same person or people just saying...all these cavedwellers that contributed to this project were/are organic growers with no exceptions, especially not using any superthrive, zero...but anywhoo thank you on the scope and science behind seed identification. Fucking intriguing to say the least. Peace and Caveman grease

 

[Psychonaut47]

so this shit get deep quick,, Farmer dont want my scientfic names , but I scratch my head and ask:

I hear the answers online and in skool but I still ponder, Is cannabis a Nut, Legume, Achene, Caryopsis, Follicle, Capsule or Samara? twist me up , keeps me up at nite.

And now new scientific names for cannabis , cannabis family tree was wrong like I said it was incorrect., its still not rite.

cavemandica works but there are some uncle fester through backs like that pencil 11 leafer up there...who knows maybe some indicas have some pencil leaf throwbacks in there or some sativas and indicas share regions...though provoking for sure, I am always thought provoked when I read your post @lino thanks and keep it up man some of us are trying to pick up what your putting down...

 

[epitome]

so this shit get deep quick,, Farmer dont want my scientfic names , but I scratch my head and ask:

I hear the answers online and in skool but I still ponder, Is cannabis a Nut, Legume, Achene, Caryopsis, Follicle, Capsule or Samara? twist me up , keeps me up at nite.

And now new scientific names for cannabis , cannabis family tree was wrong like I said it was incorrect., its still not rite.

I like the names, are you talking about bigcavers and cavemandica? Perfect names or am I missing something? Let me go check out what I've missed real quick

 

[lino]

Those beans @epitome gifted you share brothers as fathers so do you think you can identify under the scope common traits that must be from the fathers/brothers since all the females where different but they all shared the brothers as fathers

Many times I've had seeds handed to me back in the day that had simular breeding methods and the traits/character blended ( no specific traits were prevalent in plants F1) in the plants , especially in first generation. Genotypes could/would surface by F3 most of the time. Work for Breeding to separate the Genotypes and if you already know the parents your miles ahead.
If the GenotypeS will separate and good journals are kept, MANY TIMEs GENOTYPES CAN BE ASSOCIATED TO SEED SHELL TYPES. If you dissect the seed this can add to genotype IDs and genetic designations . You can punnett chart the genes and have very good prediction of your crosses of the brother and sisters.
It helps to have the seeds saved in seed pods - rare in cannabis, the pods are the buds and we usually dont go around with our buds holding and saving seeds...

 

[epitome]

Many times I've had seeds handed to me back in the day that had simular breeding methods and the traits/character blended ( no specific traits were prevalent in plants F1) in the plants , especially in first generation. Genotypes could/would surface by F3 most of the time. Work for Breeding to separate the Genotypes and if you already know the parents your miles ahead.
If the GenotypeS will separate and good journals are kept, MANY TIMEs GENOTYPES CAN BE ASSOCIATED TO SEED SHELL TYPES. If you dissect the seed this can add to genotype IDs and genetic designations . You can punnett chart the genes and have very good prediction of your crosses of the brother and sisters.
It helps to have the seeds saved in seed pods - rare in cannabis, the pods are the buds and we usually dont go around with our buds holding and saving seeds...

 

[epitome]

Many times I've had seeds handed to me back in the day that had simular breeding methods and the traits/character blended ( no specific traits were prevalent in plants F1) in the plants , especially in first generation. Genotypes could/would surface by F3 most of the time. Work for Breeding to separate the Genotypes and if you already know the parents your miles ahead.
If the GenotypeS will separate and good journals are kept, MANY TIMEs GENOTYPES CAN BE ASSOCIATED TO SEED SHELL TYPES. If you dissect the seed this can add to genotype IDs and genetic designations . You can punnett chart the genes and have very good prediction of your crosses of the brother and sisters.
It helps to have the seeds saved in seed pods - rare in cannabis, the pods are the buds and we usually dont go around with our buds holding and saving seeds...

Funny you say that because those seeds cured and stored with the buds for atleast a year before being seperated.... so are you saying I should save my seeds in the cured nugs to stay fresher or more peotected?

 

[lino]

I like the names, are you talking about bigcavers and cavemandica? Perfect names or am I missing something? Let me go check out what I've missed real quick

That Ol Timer dude the other nite. That was a stellar conversation,, When he asked about Mohawken, I mentioned Navy Grey Mohawken Bud Vintage 1976 and :speechless:

We were on the same page, same era instantly. I like that Cat. This is NOT pure Mohawken. but it looks like it Exactly, Execpt its purp... I dont have the seed online yet but let him see that...

Show him this , the room will go silent while he looks

Show him this

grown with thistle and hog weed. vintage 975 - 1979

 

[epitome]

That Ol Timer dude the other nite. That was a stellar conversation,, When he asked about Mohawken, I mentioned Navy Grey Mohawken Bud Vintage 1976 and :speechless:

We were on the same page, same era instantly. I like that Cat. This is NOT pure Mohawken. but it looks like it Exactly, Execpt its purp... I dont have the seed online yet but let him see that...

Show him this , the room will go silent while he looks

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grown with thistle and hog weed. vintage 975 - 1979

lol, he has a crazy library. I'll show him. Are those from the seed with the failed germ rate? I'm not sure if he has a method of popping vintage seeds but if he's not confident pm me.....

 

[lino]

Funny you say that because those seeds cured and stored with the buds for atleast a year before being seperated.... so are you saying I should save my seeds in the cured nugs to stay fresher or more peotected?

No ,, not exactly... seed pods, pea pods, buds ect are hit with bees or when a guy dumps pollen it usually dominates a bud. If different male plants are used , especially if used at different times,, Indoors it happen often.
Outdoors the wind can mess up the ratios kinda///

each Male has abortion ratios and, F-M-Herm ratios, and things that can be IDd in the seed and other traits also, sexed linked and autosomal also... so the groupoing is helpful.

 

[lino]

lol, he has a crazy library. I'll show him. Are those from the seed with the failed germ rate? I'm not sure if he has a method of popping vintage seeds but if he's not confident pm me.....

Nope, Purp Mohawken Massacre has a high germ rate... I'll have to find my greys to see the dates.

 

[Psychonaut47]

Nope, Purp Mohawken Massacre has a high germ rate... I'll have to find my greys to see the dates.

does this plant resemble any mexican traits?

 

[lino]

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NICE!!!
WOW, thats looks like a keeper, purp sativa ,,, i'll be lookN for that Geno... be nice if that what she threw in all the bean on the 1st round.


does this plant resemble any mexican traits?
Ive seen a real old mexican sativa pics of a purple sativa strain of which I dont have, the name slips me rite now. They had very thin purp leaves. I seen lots of mex with purp/red leaf stems. And that has lots of red in the leafs,,, Caribbean equilaterals sativas, southern Mex...

 

[epitome]

NICE!!!
WOW, thats looks like a keeper, purp sativa ,,, i'll be lookN for that Geno... be nice if that what she threw in all the bean on the 1st round.


does this plant resemble any mexican traits?
Ive seen a real old mexican sativa pics of a purple sativa strain of which I dont have, the name slips me rite now. They had very thin purp leaves. I seen lots of mex with purp/red leaf stems. And that has lots of red in the leafs,,, Caribbean equilaterals sativas, southern Mex...

if you see any of these genotypes then that was accidental, I tried to give you what I thought was most bubba bx with some og phenos and indica kush dominant hybrid, that purple/reddish plant was from a high cbd mom that was mislabelled but the fathers are the same brothers...but ya, possible yes to find these in there but I must admit that it was a mistake and most likely from the high cbd mom....wierd plant tho because it used to be potent and it lost its psychedelic fx it once had and the mom was mostly orange when grown inside except for in this GLR veg and short 10 hr flower cycle. That GLR is what I'm going to grow the Panama Reds in and then right to a 10 hr flower cycle I can't wait to start that run.

 

[nazarbattu]

Hijole! This thread is about to get contreversial lol, 0 lease don't tell me you guys are the ones pushing this schwag work, Pandoras haze anyone jajajajaja thats cool though and ballsy. I got some tiny tiny beans that cane from some bomb bomb reggie miller zacatecas brick weed...maybe I'll pop those and try to keep up with you guys.
Naz