Venom818 said:

Slauson - if your cuts are from progressive options do yourself a favor a start over most of there shit is fake and garbage.

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diablo, woody, and strawberry tahoe. i hope this woody is legit cuz i really like that cut.. the diablos good i ran it before.. i dont care about the strawberry tahoe.

i havent been in a while since a few bad experiences but i just recently went to get that woody and grabbed the straberry tahoe too. they do have some good cuts but a lot of fakes. ive gotten a few fakes from them thats for sure.. i dont know if their Chemdog D and tahoe are the real deals or not but theyre both really good regardless.. they had a terrible broad mite problem a while back tho.. a couple other ones are from the other clone spot in the valley.. the presidential, king louie, diamond, hells angel and triple x. that guys got some fakes too but most is real from my experience. the true hes got is fake as fuck tho. wack cut definitely not the true. i lost the real true cuz i took cuts off his fake ass one instead thinking they were the same but got it back thankfully.

the others were all from good people, definitely real.

oh and i think po says they got girl scout cookies now. highly doubt it. maybe an s1.

QleanerQuest said:

Hey Venom whats up bro? Shouldve asked earlier, but obviously you had a bad experience with them. Or know of some shady shit. Ya mind sharing it with us? Help save others from getting butchered by them too! Thanksman. Peace.
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they used to have a wide selection of different shit and a bunch of moms... although A LOT of fake shit like venom said.. and mislabels.. but sometimes u could come up on some nice cuts there it wasnt bad but within the past year i think the guy with all the good moms and most of the genetics split and stopped fuckin with them so they havent really had shit, seems like theyve tried to save themselves by just focusing on ogs and doing big orders for growers around town cuz og's is what sells so it seems they rounded up some og moms and according to venom they are fake.. i wouldnt know recently but i do know last time i went there i needed a tray real quick to do a run and ordered half tahoe and half Chemdog D but after 3 weeks of jerking me around i ended up with them and something called petrol and xxx i think.. they had a terrible infestation of broad mites i think or some bad disease. some of the tahoes and chems made it to flower ok but the rest just went to shit and got tossed.. i knew it was from them cuz none of my other plants had anything wrong with em just the ones from there. like the majority so i havent really fucked with em since except for that last time for the woody cuz i really wanted it.

and i get the idea that they really dont know shit about genetics and thats probably the reason they end up selling fakes cuz theyre not smart enough to know the difference. whenever i try to make conversation about genetics they just seem lost like im talking to a random on the street. and i think they might have a few different tahoes cuz when i was getting em one of the guys said which tahoe is that and the guy said "so and so's, the good one" so i thought to myself, wtf do they have different versions of tahoe that theyre calling the real deal? i dunno. none of these clone spots are any good.. you would think someone that knows whats up would open one and drop some good real shit. thank god for the internet and meeting good people with amazing gear to trade with cuz i would hate to rely on these shops.

oh yeah and now that i think of it this diablo i have is not from them altho i do hope it is the same lol or better cuz i did get a bomb one from them but lost it, thats why i grabbed this other one from someone a few weeks back.

and i think a lot of the cuts used from aliens last drop came from here.. sour dubble (real one, good cut i like it) albert walker (fake, but alien said he ditched it for the real one?) high octane og and triple x ogs?? maybe they might have came from there im not for sure. i just know they vended the shit out of those cuts

TRYtoTRY Man that sucks when people do shady shit like that. Just to get over on folks. Someone should BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF THEM, I bet they would "git right", as my ole man would say. We dont have time for bullshit like that in our "hobby". Sorry to bring vibes like that to the forum, but damn. Alot of us try to legitimize our passion in this industry by staying legal and keeepin shit real. It REALLY pisses me off to see people get fucked by mother fucker's using this as a way to burn good folks for their gain.
Im sure we were all hustlers at one point. I was, wont lie. But I didnt rip people off. Notta way to get retirning custo's. Providing a good service with quality product and competitive pricing, thats how its suppose to be. But shit, I guess Im preaching to the chior! Lol, u guyz feel me.
Slauson, I hope u didnt get burned homie. Just cuz thats fucked up, after you get a run and figure out which ones were fake, I will TRY help you hunt down the real cuts, but hopefully there will be no need for that!!!
I know your not into pics, but maybe some of us could help identify some. Well not me. I havent ever even seen a true Og cut! Lol.
Thanks for puttin that out there Venom.
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only ones i kept from them are the two i just got, the woody and strawberry tahoe which doesnt really matter if theyre not the real deal, i hope the woody is but if not its no biggie, its around ill get it eventually. the rest ive ran before and/or are definitely verified. except the triple x maybe, havent ran that yet but it should be cool.

and i dont know if theyre intentionally trying to burn people, they could be trying to help people and just dont know any better if the cuts were passed to them fake, yaknow? ive accidently passed out cuts that ended up not what they were said to be, wasnt my intention i was just trying to help.. so i dunno there intentions but they dont really have much competition and a lot of people dont know anywhere else to get cuts so they do get away with a lot.

the only ones i really care about are valley, tahoe, pure kush, skywalker, ghost, true and i got those from folks that definitely got the real shit.. some of the others one i ran and know are legit but dont really care for cuz theyre very easy to get like hells angel, diamond, diablo, king louie etc.

And if they don't have what u want they'll just give u something else I'm sure they figure by the time u figure it out it will be a couple months and you'll forget about . Don't know about any of there recent strains but like slauson said they might have some good mislabeled cuts just got to get lucky

You're my new hero! I thought I was an OG head...

I'm working with:
Faceoff OG
Larry OG (Original clone)
Tahoe OG (special CC find)
91 OG
Louie XIII
Fire OG nor cal cut
Fire OG BX (Raskal)
Ghost OG
B-Real SAcut

We sure have a similar collection. Look forward to seeing what you produce!!! Good luck!

that faceoff is one ive been wanting to get my hands on. i seen it one time years ago and didnt get it cuz i thought all the og names were dumb but i really should have cuz now its a rare one.

hopefully that cc tahoe is close to the original cuz the original is easily one of the best og's.

i just got that 91 og from po to compare to this 91 pure kush clone i got... supposed to be super rare cut but if po's vending the same one then people just aint knowing. we'll see.. should be fire if its that gam cut.

that norcal fire og seems like a finicky one to me, i grew it once and never cared to keep it around.. i'll wait for the real raskal fire clone.i just couldnt get it right i guess.

the ghost is a fast vegger.. this thing is growing a few inches a day it seems like. prolly keeps going another couple feet in flower i bet.

and ive always been curious about the cypress hill og, b real og, and soul assassins og.. are they the same cut or different? ive actually ran all 3 but a long time ago and too far apart to remember how they were.. but now i got the sac and b real mothered out so im gonna check and see. ive done a couple runs with the b real clone i got recently and its dank but just seems like a regular og.. good fuel smell and taste. super strong high but it doesnt look as bomb as say the tahoe and skywalker. more just reguar looking og nugs.. from what i remember the cypress hill and sac were similar to that as well.

got some new og's to add to the list. i know its over board but i got the space and wanna check em all to make sure i end up with the best of the best.

hollywood og
snoop dogg og? not abusive tho
space jam og
king louie og (got some sample nugs with this one that are some of the finest og nugs i ever seen, so definitely the real king louie, ill copare to the king louie mother i got to see if theyre the same or not)
manderine og (also got some nugs with it that were very very nice)

anyone have any info on any of them let me know.. im sure theyre just renames mostly tho.

and got something called hollywood bubba.. ive been wanting a new bubba to run but i want something different then the usual bubbas like pre98, hopefully this will be special.

i picked up a clone at this shady spot in south central called king bubba, didnt think anything of it cuz of where it came from so didnt even clone it but its about to get cut down and its some of the dankest bubba ive ever seen. frosty like the white and those chunky sharp buds like good ogs but straight bubba smell, maybe its crossed with the king louie or some shit.. but i hated myself for not cloning it and literally just went back to the spot to see if they had anymore and to my surprise they did so i got it back... we'll see which bubba wins for me and becomes the lucky keeper. also got the platinum bubba.

got a good master kush and platinum kush too i had to throw in the trash cuz they had an aphid infestation. it hurts to chuck plants but i cant risk that.

Do you still have your herijuana og?? Was it legit? One cut I've always wanted, so fucking dank

slausongardens said:

that faceoff is one ive been wanting to get my hands on. i seen it one time years ago and didnt get it cuz i thought all the og names were dumb but i really should have cuz now its a rare one.

hopefully that cc tahoe is close to the original cuz the original is easily one of the best og's.

i just got that 91 og from po to compare to this 91 pure kush clone i got... supposed to be super rare cut but if po's vending the same one then people just aint knowing. we'll see.. should be fire if its that gam cut.
that norcal fire og seems like a finicky one to me, i grew it once and never cared to keep it around.. i'll wait for the real raskal fire clone.i just couldnt get it right i guess.
and ive always been curious about the cypress hill og, b real og, and soul assassins og.. are they the same cut or different? ive actually ran all 3 but a long time ago and too far apart to remember how they were.. but now i got the sac and b real mothered out so im gonna check and see. ive done a couple runs with the b real clone i got recently and its dank but just seems like a regular og.. good fuel smell and taste. super strong high but it doesnt look as bomb as say the tahoe and skywalker. more just reguar looking og nugs.. from what i remember the cypress hill and sac were similar to that as well.

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My 91 OG came from PO as well. Just threw her into flower, so I will report back when the time is right.
AS FAR AS I KNOW... B-Real, Cypress Hill OG, and Soul Assassin OG are the same. Keep in mind that there are numbers though. Not sure which one goes with B-Real, but there is #3 which has the OG and Urkle? Something like that?
Faceoff is RARE. I know that much, it grows pretty nice. This will be my first run with her, so I'm hoping for the best. My Tahoe is straight fire!
Nor Cal Fire is FINICKY AS F***! I hope I have her dialed this time around.

smoketrees said:

Do you still have your herijuana og?? Was it legit? One cut I've always wanted, so fucking dank

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the male i used was from motas oguana kush so definitely legit.. i popped 3 packs.. im just used to calling it herijuana og, i never call it oguana kush but i do wanna make sure mota gets the credit for it. i actually just popped 5 more seeds to look for a good female cuz before i was just looking for a male.

i did have the herijuana og clone only that used to float around socal.. dont know about how legit the genetics were but its was an insanely potent og with more earthy smells then fuel but still a little fuel in there so pretty sure it was og x herijuana i just never knew if it was a pheno found out of motas oguana kush or was made by a local pollen chucker and passed around.. i wish there was more info on it... i originally was gonna cross my male to that female clone to get it in seed form but lost the female.. saved some pollen too for when i got it again but last week i asked the guy i got it from and he said its long gone, he lost it. that made me sad.. i know theres more out there i just dont know if theyre the same one or any good.

i guess its worth it to check out tho and/or see if i can find anything better out of these oguana kush's.

dont know why i never tried to make my own herijuana og??? i did have a lot of herijuana males a while back i was working with. maybe sometime in the future il do it with a nice male and good og.

Damn bummer you lost the female, she is one of my favorites but the clone has always eluded me. I had a cut of her once that ended up being bunk

slausongardens said:

the male i used was from motas oguana kush so definitely legit.. i popped 3 packs.. im just used to calling it herijuana og, i never call it oguana kush but i do wanna make sure mota gets the credit for it. i actually just popped 5 more seeds to look for a good female cuz before i was just looking for a male.

i did have the herijuana og clone only that used to float around socal.. dont know about how legit the genetics were but its was an insanely potent og with more earthy smells then fuel but still a little fuel in there so pretty sure it was og x herijuana i just never knew if it was a pheno found out of motas oguana kush or was made by a local pollen chucker and passed around.. i wish there was more info on it... i originally was gonna cross my male to that female clone to get it in seed form but lost the female.. saved some pollen too for when i got it again but last week i asked the guy i got it from and he said its long gone, he lost it. that made me sad.. i know theres more out there i just dont know if theyre the same one or any good.

i guess its worth it to check out tho and/or see if i can find anything better out of these oguana kush's.

dont know why i never tried to make my own herijuana og??? i did have a lot of herijuana males a while back i was working with. maybe sometime in the future il do it with a nice male and good og.

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Sgarden , i got 10 beans from mota with my lung candy # 1 and my g13-hp/lbl is this the same heri og you crossed with and all 6 of your crosses i popped are doing fine .... 3 white chem and 3 stardawg , what kinda of keeper should i be looking for any dude how many mom's do you keep bro, you have a sick amount of elite shit bro..... respect soser

Damn you made my day by saying the herijuana og is oguana kush from mota as I got some of those beans and I'm ready to pop these babies looking for some good og with a differen taste.

I remember elite genetics had a cross of this I believe was mota's???

soserthc1 said:

Sgarden , i got 10 beans from mota with my lung candy # 1 and my g13-hp/lbl is this the same heri og you crossed with and all 6 of your crosses i popped are doing fine .... 3 white chem and 3 stardawg , what kinda of keeper should i be looking for any dude how many mom's do you keep bro, you have a sick amount of elite shit bro..... respect soser

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he sent you oguana kush with the lung candys and others??? thats awesome i always thought he was out of that oguana kush stock. thats why i got so many packs when i had the option to.

pop em theyre fire, i think some of the best beans ever made haha

but what you wanna look for in my herijuana og crosses is any phenos that take after the female cuz i used a lot of really nice moms.. or anything stretchier with longer nodal spacing.. cuz the dominant pheno is the herijuana pheno and its bushy, leafy super short internodal spacing.. its a good pheno, super potent but very boring and kinda bland.. when u can get the female dominany phenos or anything that looks like an og.. u should get a stinkier plant with more flavor and still the potency of the herijuana og... i noticed the herijuana og kinda took away from a lot of the flavor but added super potency.. most of em smell like super earthy kush plants. kinda garlicy. and after the testing ive done i realized that the male i used really passed on a chunky huge bud yield trait cuz every pheno is monsterous, highest yielding stuff in my garden out of 10 plus strains.. soooo chunky and still hella potent kush plants. symbiotes doing some outdoors and i swear they will be ginormous. i got football buds indoors.

and i got a lot of moms lol.. i have a lot of space but sometimes i pay more on my power bill then i actually make on flowers cuz of how many moms i keep and breeding and stuff. i kinda have to change my ways lol.. but i dont keep a lot of moms at one time, i put a lot of stuff into flower and take clones so i dont lose it and test em out, if they make the cut i mother them but usually end up flowering the mom out one it gets big and replacing it, maybe keeping a cut in case.

so most of the strains i have are small right now, clones or are in flower. but i do have a mother room with about 25 plants.. mother/veg room cuz when i need room i go in and pick the ones i dont wanna keep and throw em in the flower room. i must have over 50 strains right now. prolly more in all different stages of growth but mostly clones and seedlings. i just really like testing all the strains out.. but eventually ima pick like 5.. an og, a bubba, a diesel etc and just do those. once i find the best.

and wbwidow.. if u pop em, look for the stretchier ones. those are the og leaners.. the better phenos. the male i used was og dominant but still mainly passed on the herijuana trait. the herijuana is strong in breeding ime. and bland and boring but super potent. find the fuely earthy og phenos for sure.

Bland and boring :/.. I don't know man you making me push it to the side lol j/k.. Well I don't have much room I use tents.. But when I do get to them I'll look for the stretchier one.

The beans mota gave me said herijuana on the package , he did state they were no longer available but he coild dig some up if he looked , so basically i'm asking if they are what u are calling heri/og or are they oguana kush or heri og or one in the same , I wanna grow some out but there is a ton of shit i wanna grow out but to much on my plate currently and i just started to do what you suggested with the mom's , i took cutting of the one's i am not sure if keeping as to keep the mom's small ..... thanks for you detailed response's man , greatly appreciated if you are not sure about the heri and get caught up , maybe you can pop a few any let me know.... i'll pm u later ..... be well respect soser ,

Wbwidow said:

Bland and boring :/.. I don't know man you making me push it to the side lol j/k.. Well I don't have much room I use tents.. But when I do get to them I'll look for the stretchier one.

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i dont mean it like that haha but if youve ever grown the herijuana you know what i mean.. its not a flavor strain, its a potency knockout strain, and really i just say that cuz ive done so much with herijuana and herijuana crosses and seen so many phenos that thats how its starting to seem. my intention was to bring some flavor to the herijuana so thats what i say when looking for a keeper, look for the female leaner cuz it'll have the flavor.the herijuana leaners will be just like the herijuana.

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The beans mota gave me said herijuana on the package , he did state they were no longer available but he coild dig some up if he looked , so basically i'm asking if they are what u are calling heri/og or are they oguana kush or heri og or one in the same , I wanna grow some out but there is a ton of shit i wanna grow out but to much on my plate currently and i just started to do what you suggested with the mom's , i took cutting of the one's i am not sure if keeping as to keep the mom's small ..... thanks for you detailed response's man , greatly appreciated if you are not sure about the heri and get caught up , maybe you can pop a few any let me know.... i'll pm u later ..... be well respect soser ,

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oh yeah you didnt get the oguana kush, you just got the regular herijuana, no og in it but still one of the best strains made imo.. extremely potent and can be used for a lot of medical purposes i would think. whenever you want some super indica go to sleep pot, pop em. if not hang on to them cuz theyll definitely be valuable forever.

herijuana - a world class indica strain thats been around for a while, originally made by steve tuck from petrolia headstash x kentucky outdoor strain. a few companys put a version out like 3lb and woodhorse but it seems like mota did the most work with it and perfected it for us. now theres other companys with versions out but i would say motas is the best for sure.

oguana kush - a cross made by mota with his herijuana and i think an og kush found in a pack of orgnkids oger kush beans. or it could have just been the oger kush, not exactly sure. but it came out a few years back and now im sure hes out of stock but whoever came up on a pack got lucky. maybe he will make a new version for us. its one of the perfect crosses and enormous amount of potency.

I get what your saying with the heri og and actually that a pretty interesting way to breed. Your take a blah tasting and smelling strong herb and keep the kick but add some flavor. So my pheno hunt should be directed towards the mother leaning hence a good flavor herb with a heri kick....... kind of what people have been doing forever with g13/hp ........ respect soser

back to the og project, i came up on a bad ass male recently and kinda put a lot of plans on the back burner just to work with this male. its a vietnam black x aliendawg f3 made by cannarado. i think the aliendawg was kid twists and worked in the direction of the cherry pheno. i think. either way it looks siiiiiick as fuck. extremely vigorous and fast as hell. definitely vietnam black dominant cuz of the speed it grows and it has 11 bladed leaves.. but everything else is dead on to the aliendawg if that makes sense.. cuz i got the aliendawg f4 right next to it and it looks just like that one but taller and more blades.my boy grew some vietnam black x nl5 and said the high on it was insane!

i wanna hit it to a few different og's and things.

tahoe og x vietnam black/aliendawg
skywalker og x vietnam black/aliendawg
cherry kush x vietnam black/aliendawg (cherry kush is purple afghani x og kush.. amazing strain)
old school og aka 91 pure kush x vietnam black/aliendawg
cherry ak47 x vietnam black/aliendawg
hollywood bubba x vietnam black/aliendawg

im just using a few different og's to make sure i get the best possible outcome. one might be more superior then the others in the cross so i wanna see. so im using my favorites and also the cherry kush to keep the cherry thing going and also to keep it colorful, it has like a maroon/purple tint to it. cherry ak also to keep the cherry thing going and someting different then the og. maybe a couple more females that arent og to mix it up a bit.

but i just have such a strong feeling that adding that psychoactive pure sativa high to the powerful og kush will make something awesome.. also the aliendawg to balance it out and keep it danky and keep from half the phenos being wild sativas.. 25% pure sativa is enough.. 50% is too much haha especially cuz theres already sativa in the og. i think those three strains is a good balance. the aliendawg will also add nice flavor to mix it up and hopefully some of those dark and purple phenos in the vietnam black come through.

not really looking to sell seeds or make a bunch.. really just wanna pop a bunch of seeds and find one super keeper clone that'll blow peoples socks off.

Good luck SG, sounds like a plan bro! That VB x Aliendawg f3 is super vigorous 4sho, I have to go by my peeps, who grew it outdoors here in MI and get some when it's finished curing ....he usually cracks the jars around Turkey Day!

Cannarado has some killer gear too, I found a killer male in his Alien Double Dawgs (Chemdog #4 x Aliendawg f3) that's cherry funkdafied to the max and probably the branchiest male I've ever seen, has hollow stems, trichome covered stalks and pods, .......I tested him outside, he has sticky resins and a funky rotten cherry smell! Leaf has him now getting ready to go to town on a group of ladies .....I kept his identical twin sister to make some f2s with later.

Your Headlocks are @ 15 days now bro! I have (2) Heri leaners, a 50/50, and a very noticable OG leaner, I gave the other 50/50 pheno female and an OG leaning candy smelling male to Leaf too, I kept the other male that was also OG leaning but has a funkier, mothball-ish chemmy smell, I had to move him into the containment area today ...he started looking a little bit anxious LOL. I put them up on the Watch too bro ...check it out, I gotta start a thread up over here too when I get some new pics later!