So what had happened was...

[TSD]

I don't know how they'll respond to 24/0... they don't look overly healthy.

 

[Slim0317]

They're not. Well, the gelato and MAC aren't. Strawberry still dgaf, started popping 5 point leaves last night. The three pointers were just her adjusting to the additional light. I finally figured out that for some reason the pots weren't draining. Went to the nursery and got 2 bags of Happy Frog and a bottle of fox farm grow big. I re- potted both of them last night. Going to follow instructions for supplemental foliar feeding and spray them once a week until the roots recover, or until they die, if that should be their fate.

 

[Slim0317]

The funky color is because I turned the red spectrum off while they're recovering in an effort to be as gentle with them as I can. They had a so-far successful surgery, but it's still a crap shoot. Prayers for Mac and Jelly.

 

[Deadstill]

This is why I follow a strict transplanting regimen with all of my plants - the proper size pot for the plant is important. Start out in solo cup size or equivalent, once roots show on bottom transplant to 1 gallon. Then to 3 gallon, then to 5 gallon, onward and etc.

When you start small plants out in overly large pots, you get a lot of unused soil that holds water, that doesn't get used, which makes for a breeding ground of fungi, bacteria and other pathogens. It's important that your soil/media is getting regular intervals of wet and dry to prevent this, thus having the appropriate pot size to fit the root ball - is very important.

9 times out of 10 when I see people having issues with their plants and they're doing everything right, they've overlooked that 1 key rule.

 

[Slim0317]

The only reason I had drainage issues is because I first watered moist soil, eventhough it was 24hrs ahead of time, then moved them around too much. It didn't bother the strawberry cough because she has a fairly shallow root system. The gelato and MAC1 hit the bottom of their solo cups by day 2. After 24hrs+ in Happy Frog straight out of the bag and a spray of Fox Farm big bloom and they're starting to come back. I understand the 3 pot method, but I put them in their final container to protect them as best I can from my clumsy ass. I do the things do to accommodate as best I can what I know of my strengths and limitations and not from ignorance or rebellion, though sometimes it may look like that. I have 2 very difficult strains to grow, and am attempting to do so on limited resources. And I'm not bitching, it's how I'm choosing to do it.

 

[Slim0317]

Update - it looks like MAC1 and Gelato#33 are re-vegging since they had started to flower, I think due to stress since they haven't spent very much time in the dark since I've had them. I think you can see the trichromes on the leaves in some of the pictures. And since they're not easy strains to cultivate, and they have started to bud once, not to mention popped some 3 point leaves during all that, I'm watching very closely to make sure neither one grows a pair. Can anyone confirm if they are in fact growing again?

 

[Buzzzz]

Update - it looks like MAC1 and Gelato#33 are re-vegging since they had started to flower, I think due to stress since they haven't spent very much time in the dark since I've had them. I think you can see the trichromes on the leaves in some of the pictures. And since they're not easy strains to cultivate, and they have started to bud once, not to mention popped some 3 point leaves during all that, I'm watching very closely to make sure neither one grows a pair. Can anyone confirm if they are in fact growing again?

Look at your new growth if it has more leaves then it is going veg,if less it's going into flower,if it's the same it's confused and sitting on the fence

 

[Slim0317]

Look at your new growth if it has more leaves then it is going veg,if less it's going into flower,if it's the same it's confused and sitting on the fence

I had said about a week ago, another thread I think, that they had been stressed into preflower and seemed confused once I left the lights on to stop them from flowering and had stopped growing anything, leaf or flower. But this definitely looks like new veg to me. First 4 are MAC1, next 4 Larry Bird (Gelato#33), last is all 3 for reference. Strawberry Cough ( aka Little Miss DGAF) behind Larry and MAC, all purchased same day, all potted same day, MAC & Larry getting rinsed and re-potted in fresh HF because the pots weren't drying out and their roots weren't big enough yet to soak it all up and were drowning. It's taken about 2 weeks and I had lost hope in them, though as long as they were still alive I was still going to take care of them, unless they decided to actually grow some balls. At that point they would have just been a couple of dead eunuchs.