ImpulsiveGrower
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So you’re saying no to what exactly?noooo!!!! that is what i use. it will burn the roots of the plant! heres what i had to do, put the purple cow in the bottom 1/3 of pot and a potting soil in the rest. the roots will reach down when they are ready and get what they need.
i just spilled mine, and the mixing of the hot purple cow with the potting soil REALLY hurt her!! it did not stop with time either, just kept doing it! i had to repot and shake off as much of the dirt from the roots as i could and then repot and it finally started growing new leaves that were ok. the older leaves are still all splotchy! but new growth is ok now.
So you’re saying no to mixing the happy frog with the purple cow? So the layering of soil is a pretty good idea then? That way they can grow into the hotter soil? I’m gonna be growing in 5 gallon pots. Figured I could put in the purple cow at the bottom half and happy frog on the top. I’ll transplant from my 64oz 5 in pots into the half and half layered soil.noooo!!!! that is what i use. it will burn the roots of the plant! heres what i had to do, put the purple cow in the bottom 1/3 of pot and a potting soil in the rest. the roots will reach down when they are ready and get what they need.
i just spilled mine, and the mixing of the hot purple cow with the potting soil REALLY hurt her!! it did not stop with time either, just kept doing it! i had to repot and shake off as much of the dirt from the roots as i could and then repot and it finally started growing new leaves that were ok. the older leaves are still all splotchy! but new growth is ok now.
So the layering is a bad idea then? Or it’s a good idea but I’ll have better results transplanting into 100% purple cow?Once the plants are transplanted out of Happy Frog, lets say at 8"-12" tall, they will do great in 100% Purple Cow.
So the layering is a bad idea then? Or it’s a good idea but I’ll have better results transplanting into 100% purple cow?
Thanks for the input it seems I’m getting some mixed opinions on this matter. I will prolly try the layering as in the bottom layer and a top layer. I’ll play with the ratios a bit and see how it goes (40% purple cow on bottom). I may try one in 100% purple cow when she’s ready to be transplanted.layering implies putting the one then the other then the one then the other...
so no.
and mixing, no
putting one layer on the bottom - i did 1/3, as that is what is all over the net on growing in water only or super soil, dont know about 50%. just know what i did, and why i did it is some canadian research showing that the 1/3 measure is what the plants (depending upon genetics, but all within the range tested) use during their life. when testing the soil along the lifespan of plants raised in soil with all the same constraints, the plants typically use (at whatever rate they need), most of the provided nutes by its demise when the 1/3 amount was used. they were tested in liter pots - several different sizes. all worked best with the 1/3. purple cow was not among the tested brands, but has much the same composition as those that were tested.
so, yes to putting some in the bottom, then normal soil in the rest. i used bushdoctor, but it was very specific that any good potting soil will do.
the diagram showed the roots going to the level of the water only soil, taking the nutes, then going a bit deeper and taking those nutes... till they are gone and the plant has died. the 1/3 measure was plenty, and not high enough in the pot to restrict the normal root growth (im afraid 50% would limit the growth, because they will not grow into the hot soil, they suck the good shit out first, then go down a bit more.
if you use 100% purple cow, i would be concerned it would burn her. if only a tiny bit got jumbled into my (over 12" plant) and made it crappy with splotchy leaves and slacking growth, then i would think 100% would not be a good thing. and this effect lasted till i got her out of the soil with that little bit mixed in! it was in a 1 gal, with about 2 cups of the hot soil and the rest was potting soil.
this might not be how it works for you. i dont know anything but what i personally did and the results. well, i am a voracious reader and have resources to read scholarly articles from college libraries!
Purple Cow by itself is not too hot for plants. It's when you amend it with extra fertilizers making a 'super soil' is when people fill the bottom third of a pot. Plain soil by itself whether it's Ocean Forest, Purple Cow, whatever it is, will not burn a plant when fertigated with plain water that is 12" tall.
try it... i did.
i made the spill, it made the burned leaves. or that was my hypothesis...
so, i started a new seed, got to the same stage, mixed the purple cow into the soil and repotted in the purple cow mixed (also had a second seed, i called the control plant which got the regular set up - which i still have), it caused the same result - bad enough i tossed it! so i made a hypothesis, tested for it, and got results that were convincing enough to me. so i wont be doing that again. i know what it looks like and how to recreate it.
so, i KNOW what happened to mine, i recreated it to KNOW what happens when you do it. that is just what i KNOW. and how i KNOW it.
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as i said, i did the experiment, all the constraints equal and consistent.
it happened, it happened again in a controlled experiment, and again here, on the forum, a different guy it happened to (he spilled his just like i did) and it happened to him too! the exact thing...
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