Sport Hunting

geologic · Jun 16, 2013

Anybody have any interesting mutations???

[EDIT]:

The above illustrations were drawn in 1980
from observations made throughout the '70s.
If I didn't know the proper scientific terminology I made-up something.
(Hey, I still do that!!!)...

Addendumb:
The examples 3, 4, and 5; labled "Tri-Axial", "Tetra-Axial", and Pent-Axial
are actually all plants exhibiting Whorled Phyllotaxy: TriWhorl, QuadWhorl, and <WhateverWhorl>.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllotaxis

The ones labeled "Tape Stem" are Fasciated--
'The Strainhunters' called the ones they found in Morocco "Flat Stems"
Heh...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation

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(napiform = turniplike Lat.)

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A pruned "normal" opposite axial mainstem results in 2 mainstems (1>2>4)--
a pruned <what I've always called> "triaxial" results in 3 mainstems (1>3>6)...

Another weird one--
two secondary stems from one <wide petioled> leaf...

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I've always have 3 or 4 "duckfoot" shaped leaves show up on 3 or 4 plants every year,
I never selected for that specific trait--
but somebody did...

Seamaiden · Jun 17, 2013

The only mutation I've observed is one I caused, by cutting out a piece of light-burned bud. It caused a strange, flattened bud structure. Pretty cool, but your thread title had me expecting deep ocean fishing or something like that.

geologic · Jun 17, 2013

Seamaiden said:
Pretty cool, but your thread title had me expecting deep ocean fishing or something like that.

sport (spɔrt, spoʊrt) n.
11.
Biol. an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation...

Seamaiden · Jun 17, 2013

Well there ya go! I've heard of sports... should have thought of that first. Thread title makes sense now.

geologic · Jun 19, 2013

Seamaiden said:
Well there ya go! I've heard of sports... should have thought of that first. Thread title makes sense now.

Now that you brought it up;

I should have named this topic, er, thread:

Sport HUNTING not fishing--

any way to change that???

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I've never seen one like this.

At first I thought it was insect damage, maybe some piercing-sucking sucker walking up one side of a leaf, ah, piercing and sucking during his walk; or, from the other end of the spectrum (Heh), an insect depositing eggs within the leaf membrane on her walk. I don't wory about insects much; unless it's an infestation, a grasshopper, or Leptodoptera larve...

But it continued on at (kinda) the same area on the next node, and the next, and the next;
and on to the top.

It looks to be in the same "area" as variegated leaves. I've always had a few variegated leaves on a few plants. (heck, I've had a couple of pure white leaves on a couple of plants). Like the duckfoot leaf, I never selected for variegation. ( I always had a bad feeling about the lack of chlorophyll). Just been reading that D.J.Short (a name I've seen for many months), did select for that trait; and apparently had good success.

I followed some links to "crinkled leaf mutations", but this thing doesn't resemble any of those pictures. (I've had some "crinkle leafs" like in those pics, but I thought they were ugly).

But what the heck is this???

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Seamaiden · Jun 19, 2013

That could be disease, yet the plant appears to be vigorously growing. I think I'm leaning towards some sort of genetic anomaly, too.

Thread title changed with my magic faery wand.

vaporedout · Jun 19, 2013

looks like its sproutin peas :) so weird

geologic · Jun 20, 2013

Seamaiden said:
I think I'm leaning towards some sort of genetic anomaly, too.

"genetic" anomaly,
or someotherkinda anomaly--
and "what does it do"???

Them be the big questions...

Seamaiden · Jun 20, 2013

The more I look at it, the less I think it's an environmental issue. I mean, logically, if it were say... pH being off, wouldn't the whole plant express its displeasure? Yet, what I see is distinct portions of the plant showing this crinkled, crepey growth. (You know, like crepe paper? Do they even make that stuff anymore?)

It could be disease, because of the uneven appearance, but the plant looks really healthy outside of the heavy texturing of the leaves.

geologic · Jun 20, 2013

Here's that weirdo above with 2 secondaries emanating from one axial--
now they're two mainstems...

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Looks like maybe another one on the way...

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geologic · Jun 21, 2013

Seamaiden said:
That could be disease, yet the plant appears to be vigorously growing. I think I'm leaning towards some sort of genetic anomaly, too.

Thread title changed with my magic faery wand.

Much thanx to you 'an yer magic faery wand--
makes sence now...

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I agree, it's one half of the tallest mainstem--
and reminds me of where/how varigation appears...
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Seamaiden · Jun 22, 2013

Do you think that if you took a cutting from just that part, it would continue to grow that way? And would it grow into an entirely crinkly plant? That is absolutely *not* an unhealthy plant, it looks quite vigorous, in perfect condition to my eyes.

geologic · Jun 22, 2013

Most all my cuttings get juiced;
or mulched under the plants--
I'll give it a try...

spaceoddity · Jun 28, 2013

geologic said:
"genetic" anomaly,
or someotherkinda anomaly--
and "what does it do"???

Them be the big questions...

Idk as much as you forsure but i reckon thats a virus man... I am like 90% sure..

Oregon Panda · Jun 28, 2013

The dutch propagated a virus in tulips and created kingdoms with it. I'm seconding a clone of that portion.

Seamaiden · Jun 29, 2013

spaceoddity said:
Idk as much as you forsure but i reckon thats a virus man... I am like 90% sure..

Well don't just leave it there! Tell us why you're thinking virus and so certain. What about it is making you think that?

kolah · Jun 29, 2013

DJ Shorts Vanilluna:

DJ's Blueberry

DJ's VM , crazy leafs best seen in center of pic

kolah · Jun 29, 2013

another one of DJ's VM

Seamaiden · Jun 29, 2013

How'd it grow out? I seem to recall that Blaze has run Vanillaluna (sp?), but don't recall him discussing it looking so odd from birth.

geologic · Jun 30, 2013

kolah said:
DJ Shorts Vanilluna:

DJ's VM , crazy leafs best seen in center of pic
View attachment 324334

Any more shots???

Looks a lot like the "Crinkle Leafs" I've seen, read about and mentioned briefly in the
Mutant Mary Jane article http://www.cannabis.info/USA/library/2401-mutant-mary-jane/ --
"The list of known Cannabis mutations does not end here:
purpling, crinkled leaves, conjoined twins, buds that grow on fan-leaves..."...

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