Your exactly right friend , could not find my loupe, went mental but found it, it is definitely some sort of infestation, can see tiny hole in leaf, called my guy, he told me to take a micro drop of dishsoap put in a mist bottle and mist both plants as they are still in veg, he said this should kill them off, showed pics said its not bad yet but the longer you wait the worse it gets, never ran into this in 9 years of running autos, they had to be in the mix he sold me, he asked if i wanted some kind of insecticide but i dont want that im 100% organic, anyway he said this will keep them at bay for now as the plants themselfs are running nice and do not want to lose them, he said to bring the bag i have left and he will give me 2 new bags, after i misted plants top and bottom they did not seem to mind it, i payed $65 for 3 seeds and 2 took, toof decay by methisto when i read up on strain they said put in a big pot and you get a big plant both girls, ph fine, a bit behind bc of big pots but getting nice now at 1 month, + the de earth wont hurt, so hopefully this simple little solution will work, thanx for everyones advice you all were right thats why i asked, just when you think you have seen it all some new bs pops up lol but seriously those things were in ffoc not good at all!