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Sea's Son said:side note: i discovered a phychological problem with the mites. 1st u stake each plant with wooden GREEN bamboo, then u put the fans on full blast towards the plants(without giving them wind burn but enough so the leaves r flappin all over the place) wait a day or 2. all the mites will find the bamboo to be the most sturdiest part of the plant, thinking its the plant, ALL of them as soon as they hatch climb to the top of the bamboo to wait out the wind. u will find NO webbing or mites on the plants an there will be a huge gathering of them on the very top tip of the bamboo. at that point i jus from bottom to top wipe them off with a poison soaked paper towel, repeat for 5 days. eventually less an less mites show up at the top of the bamboo till eventually they were gone.
Only use that mix on budding plants , if your plants are in veg there is NO hope ... but once they are DEEEEP into flower ,say 6 weeks or so ,that's when you want to apply those chemicals I suggested , but that's ONLY if floromite didn't work for you threw the whole flowering cycle 4 times weekly till harvest
during the drying process , I always find that a choice time to use the NUKE TRIPLE chems , make sure all those pesky mites are dead before you pass about your medical marijuana!!
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edit : almost forgot ,while you at it ,when your buds are curing spray them all down with Eagle 20ew ,great product - enhances flavor and makes all weed smell and taste like Chemdog D !! love that diesel aroma on my meds !!
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ACKSo far one formula has come out ahead and there are some instruction changes:
1/4 cup Baking Soda
1/2 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice
2 drops dish detergent
1/4 Teaspoon Epsom Salts
Take a cup of very hot water and desolve the epsom salts,take rest of ingredients and place in a clean 2 liter bottle and let work out. Add epsom solution. Add water to fill to 48ozs(3/4 full).Shake well.
TO USE: Cover soil/medium with plastic,with lights off mist plant all over,especialy under leaves,
Wait 20 mins,then spritz off with clean fresh water shaking as much water off plant as you can.
The fresh water spritz rinse will remove the solution along with the desolved remains of the mites and their eggs.
Have fun with your new "Mite Eradicator"
Note by MrFixit: Water plants 1/2 hour before spraying. This will help keep your plants from absorbing the spray.
This solution has been tested and used as directed will not burn plants,the rinse is very important though as it removes the spent solution before it can concentrate and burn the plant. It also removes most of the dead mites and eggs so you don't end up smoking them.
The formula can be diluted further,to 1 liter and it will still kill the mites but isn't as effective at dissolving and removing the mite parts.
Since removing the mite debris is desirable,I recommend the stronger solution,just remember to rinse and shake.
This formula is alkaline(about 7.8-8) so please remember to rinse.
Mite irradication is absolutely assured and guaranteed if used as directed.
I've never seen ANYTHING work this well for mite irradication!!
I used to gas my booths for mites,it worked but they came back,I haven't seen a living mite in a long time now.They haven't come back,partly because of cooler weather,partly because I hosed the Roses that were infecting everything with the formula and wiped out all the mites during testing.
The only thing I wish I'd done different is,I wish I would have done sections of the Roses and preserved
some of the mites for later tests.I've had to go searching for victims to test it on and there just aren't any left!! I did find some victims for my final tests in the park where we have meetings,the plants by the river are pretty sickly and infested(were I should say,I walked around with ONE pint bottle and cleaned up most of the area.LOL)
If news of this formula were to become widespread,mites would become an endangered species!!!So GOOD HUNTING !
Seasider"
"PM'd BankRobber and he told me to post this:
I have been experimenting with similar formulas, so far 2 work.
Trial #1: 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 1/2 cup apple juice. Dilute to 2 liters.
Trial #2 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 3 tablespoons lemon juice , 2 drops dish soap .
Dilute to 40 fluid oz's.
I've tried this on: Wandering Jew,Spider Plant,Fushias,Gladiolis,Roses, Sweet Elysium,Clovers,Daisy,
Rhodadendron, Lawn(grass)
So far it works,both formulas. #2 works best outside and best overall
It has killed any small insects I've tried it on except FLEAS(Darn it!)
So far its killed mites,thrips(Adult),aphids,clo ver mites, whatever mite type insects that were all over the Gladiolis and it sickened and effected Grass Gnats and mosquitoes.(the mist knocked them down,couldn't find them in the grass to watch if they died but they were having difficulty flying)
I'm waiting for long term effects on the plants I've sprayed,before I'll try it on my plants.
Try mixing up some and try it outside on whatever you can find with an infestation.
The original recipe from a Landscape gardener was: 1/2 cup baking soda, 1 cup vinegar,2cups apple peels.
Blend/Puree , filter , dilute to 2 liters. I haven't tried this one yet (no apple peels).
The trick seems to be 1/2 cup Baking soda to 1 cup vinegar,diluted to approximately 2 liters.
The dishsoap helps wetting & the juices boost effect. #2 seems to help with molds/fungus also.It reduced blackspot on Roses,Gladiolis and Rhodi's and white mold on Roses.( The coast is a perfect proving ground for this stuff!!! We have ALL the bugs and molds !!! I don't have to go far to find infestations of all kinds.)
Seasider"
"REPORT:
For 2 days I have hosed my backyard with this stuff,so far it has reduced blackspot & powdery mildew(white mold),killed all the small insects(size seems to matter on kill,gnats or smaller).
The only plants adversely affected so far are FERNS (they don't like it much,wilted some).
The fleas seem unaffected as are the garden spiders,wood lice,beetles and other large hard insects.
I'm using it far more than necessary to see if it hurts the plants. Repeating doses even after the bugs are dead. The gladiolis were REALY bad with blackspot mold and some kind of black sucker insects about the size of a pinhead.The Glads are doing fine both mold and insects gone! The wandering jew and spider plants are actualy perking up from it.The clover mites? WIPED OUT! Rose mites? WIPED OUT! Grass gnats and mosquitoes? VASTLY REDUCED! Scale insects? DEAD! Aphids?DEAD![THE GARDEN??? (smells like a "Caeser Salad" ! ) ALIVE.]
Seasider "
"Hey Everyone,
I think Seasider is onto something and that's it so cool to see people taking action and experimenting with organic ingredients!
I'm certainly going to try his formula!
It cost me over $300 to manufacture what I came up with, and that dose not include all the labor and the over two weeks it take to complete each batch!
Seasider's stuff is a fraction of the cost, and I can't see any adverse reactions from the ingredients mentioned.
Except for invertebrates "the soap" would kill them, but then we don't need it in our fish tank now do we?
A key test will be to see if any eggs rehatch or if the plants are reinvested, however respraying with an inexpensive home made product may be worth it to so many!
I say GREAT job & keep up the good fight!
Please keep us informed of your test. and results!
BankRobber!"
"Report:
There seems to be some mild burning where the solution was left on and collected/concentrated.
I would recommend using the 2 liter dilution and spritzing with fresh water afterward and shaking off as much as possible so the formula doesn't collect and concentrate itself to the point it burns tender leaves.
I didn't notice any damage except where it had concentrated and dried,so spritzing and shaking off should do the trick.As far as effectiveness goes,wow! The death and destruction it deals to mites is impressive !!
Popping browning eggs melting,imploding adults,body parts and debris slowly dissolving......EXTREMELY GRATIFYING !!!
TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT !!
The BORG rule ,of mite terror, is OVER !!!!
WARNING !!
A member had severe burning that he attributes to residues drawn out of the container by the vinegar.
USE A CLEAN CONTAINER !! Do not use realy strong vinegar or any with SULFITES in it.
NO SULFITES"
BOTTOM LINE IS IT WORKS AND THEY DON'T COME B
what sorta plant in what stage?
if u r just trying to kill em and money is no object... garbage can... full plant dunk
floramite should work but u can alternate with avid
also after the dunk water in merit75wp with the next feeding
also try using floramite at the correct rate; 2.5ml/gal strong... 20ml/gal could mess with how it works as a spray in water etc... don't spray till runoff... u want the spray to stay on the plants... but seriously... a dunk works wonders
a site called rosemania has every mite killing product u could ever want; i figure they are ALL safe to use on moms... anyone who thinks otherwise better be a plant scientist if they want to argue that with me... some stuff is newer than avid/floramite and they got it.... floramite was approved for use on tomatoes fwiw
Only use that mix on budding plants , if your plants are in veg there is NO hope ... but once they are DEEEEP into flower ,say 6 weeks or so ,that's when you want to apply those chemicals I suggested , but that's ONLY if floromite didn't work for you threw the whole flowering cycle 4 times weekly till harvest
during the drying process , I always find that a choice time to use the NUKE TRIPLE chems , make sure all those pesky mites are dead before you pass about your medical marijuana!!
:bug:bug:bug:bug:bug:bug:bug
:hunter:
edit : almost forgot ,while you at it ,when your buds are curing spray them all down with Eagle 20ew ,great product - enhances flavor and makes all weed smell and taste like Chemdog D !! love that diesel aroma on my meds !!
:cool0019:
I agree with seemaiden, forbid from rosmania is fantastic!
Our group had been fighting off the nastiest whitefly's on the planet for a long time, one application of forbid as a foliar wiped them completely out in 7 days! egg's and all.
you should seriously look into it, it is made specific for mites and white fly's.
here is the link.
http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page9.html
Interesting, that's exactly what is not recommended by the manufacturers. They state very clearly to rotate miticides, but not a one says to only use their product once. In fact, of those that I personally have (don't have Forbid, but do have Azatrol) two to three applications are recommended.An issue for many growers coming up against "Super Mites" is time of application and changing out of Miticides. Next time try utilizing less invasive methods such as oils (REEM/DAMOIL) or even predatory mites that will eat the spider mites (available from Syngenta/Biosa) early in the growth cycle. If that does not do the trick you must apply Avid/Floramite/Fiorbid no more than once during the plant cycle. I would switch them out on a 3-4 week bases. If you do not do this the mites will become immune to the Floramite/Avid/Forbid and get their "Super Mite" stripes!! Please follow the instruction for any miticide to the "T". All the best.
:sunSeamaiden--I love your son's suggestion. I take it you haven't had a chance to try it yet? The idea of not having to put more junk on the plants is worth looking into, especially since you could use it in conjunction with other treatments.
Also, I love that his screen name is Sea's Son. That is so cute it hurts.
And to anyone, I know you can dunk the plants in Floramite, but is it worth it to/can you dunk them in anything else?
Take some lavender sprigs.
Strip off the flower buds.
Take about a good handful and put in a gallon of water (putting it through a blender helps).
Let sit for 2-3 days. You want it to smell good still, don't let it sit until it ferments.
Dilute 1:30-1:50 and lightly foliar spray under the leaves as best as possible.
Repeat in 5 days and again in 5 more if needed.
Not only will you be doing pest control, youll be feeding your plants as well. lavender has a TON of helpful chemical compounds, minerals and all kinds of plant specific goodies.
A week later.
Well - the lavender tea is definitely effective in killing mites. No question about that.
I hit the plants in the evening and the tea was still very 'lavender' in smell. I cut it down to about 1/2 of what you (redacted) recommended as a safe zone to work in. By the next morning I pulled a couple of large fan leaves off of the bottom of the plant where the infestation was centered. I counted 12 confirmed dead mites. I put the leaves in a plastic bag and sprayed some water to keep the leaf alive to check for any eggs that might have hatched and as of this morning there is nothing there.
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