Synthetic Vs. Organic: Not So Black And White

[ken dog]

In fact I would wager the opposite, capitalism is more often the driving force behind innovation, behind the updrive in quality...

Competition is the driving force... Regardless of the market or political structure.

 

[SpitXFire]

Competition is the driving force... Regardless of the market or political structure.

I agree. I believe I worded it wrong. But nonetheless I stick by what I said... He pointed out it was capitalisms fault. I would argue that you are technically correct but how would one have meaningful competition in an non capitalistic/market driven system?

 

[ken dog]

I agree. I believe I worded it wrong. But nonetheless I stick by what I said... He pointed out it was capitalisms fault. I would argue that you are technically correct but how would one have meaningful competition in an non capitalistic/market driven system?

The competition could be between countries... Such as the cold war between Russia and the United States, and the race into space.

 

[SpitXFire]

As I figured we were using different definitions of the word competition... You meant in the general sense. I meant in the economic sense between sellers to consumers. But yes I agree

Anyways I meant more that capitalism drives innovation/quality vs the opposite as he was saying "puts a cap on quality". Not as in it is the sole driving force

 

[ken dog]

Agreed :)

 

[nazarbattu]

Capitalism puts a cap on quality....

If a plant doesn't meet the "quantity" it gets cut regardless of the quality....in a capitalist model that is.

 

[ken dog]

If a plant doesn't meet the "quantity" it gets cut regardless of the quality....in a capitalist model that is.

Not necessarily...higher quality can demand a higher price than higher quantity and bad quality.

Tuna fish is a good example.
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A 222-kilogram bluefin tuna was sold at Tokyo's Tsukiji market for an all-time high of 155.4 million yen, or 1.8 million dollars.

 

[nazarbattu]

Greedy capitalistic models miss out on a ton of high potency meds period, leaving us potheads a ton of weak ass weed to sell because "we ain't smoking that max yield shit. I've seen it over and over....I'll stop beating a dead horse. P.s. Organics grows just as big yields and potency is superior, 9 times out of ten. Just saying

Nazarbattu

 

[ken dog]

I know that the stuff I grow, you just can't buy it... you have to grow it.

 

[nazarbattu]

I know that the stuff I grow, you just can't buy it... you have to grow it.

I feel the same way....

 

[SpitXFire]

Dude I think you got the wrong idea of capitalism. Not gonna embroil you in an off topic argument. Capitalistic=private ownership of capital and property with the ability to produce capital. Thats it. You're affixing a bunch of preconceived notions to a system. It's like me blaming socialism for the shortcomings of the ussr. Capitalism is also the reason why jack and crew at TLC can deliver good product at a price lower than some Shwag down the street, @ken dog is right. If there is a market for overpriced shwag then there is a market for higher quality goods for higher prices or in the case of the pot market with the already overinflated margins, at that same exact price. You don't blame the vehicle when the driver gets trashed and goes driving everynight do ya?

 

[SpitXFire]

Plus you're blaming the system when you should be looking at the consumer who demands the product. It's all about supply n demand, if people did their due diligence or flat out refused the product those dudes would have to fold up shop.


Plus it's not always max yield... Cookies and ogs yield a good bit less than stuff like bigbud. Now I'm not in a med or rec state, but aren't they sold and demanded much more? Max yield my ass

 

[nazarbattu]

Organics vs synthetic , is not so black and white, like greed and capitilism driving a cut in quality of products.....planned obsolescence comes to mind. Naz

I don't mind a little side argument if the mods don't mind. I try to be an eternal optimist.

 

[nazarbattu]

Plus you're blaming the system when you should be looking at the consumer who demands the product. It's all about supply n demand, if people did their due diligence or flat out refused the product those dudes would have to fold up shop.


Plus it's not always max yield... Cookies and ogs yield a good bit less than stuff like bigbud. Now I'm not in a med or rec state, but aren't they sold and demanded much more? Max yield my ass

Lol.....I doubt the plant that started the Gsc rep is still available to or ever was available to Colorado dispensarys. Just thinking out loud here

 

[nazarbattu]

Plus you're blaming the system when you should be looking at the consumer who demands the product. It's all about supply n demand, if people did their due diligence or flat out refused the product those dudes would have to fold up shop.


Plus it's not always max yield... Cookies and ogs yield a good bit less than stuff like bigbud. Now I'm not in a med or rec state, but aren't they sold and demanded much more? Max yield my ass

Your hilarious in a much needed way. Your funny and a tolerable level of smart ass....so patients and potheads are at fault for weak ass synthetic high yielding preteindo bud....?

 

[SpitXFire]

Ahhh you're in CO. That explains everything... My condolences if you're going to a shop in CO.. Don't blame an economic model for what lazy stoners and people who never were involved thinking it's a cash cow did. We saw what happened in norcal... Its not the model it's the people during the green rush..

 

[SpitXFire]

Well thank you, you're not too bad yourself ;)

Your hilarious in a much needed way. Your funny and a tolerable level of smart ass....so patients and potheads are at fault for weak ass synthetic high yielding preteindo bud....?

In a way yes. If people stopped buying it, then those guys would lose all the capital and momentum to move forward. People would realize, that consumers wouldn't want a subpar product, but once again lazy stoners don't care and would rather purchase subpar for cheaper. You can see it readily in the alcohol market. Similar principles apply

 

[SpitXFire]

Fwiw all the main gsc cuts float round CO but those guys ain't letting go to the shops that's for damn sure. Plus can't lump yield and synthetics with weak bud. That's grower error not the fault of synthetics, which is just a vehicle and high yield is a result not a method. Blame pgrs and all the -cides or even poor vigilance and diligence of the grower

 

[ken dog]

Yep^^^

 

[SpitXFire]

Since you like my humor so much I got an analogy for ya.

You go down to the tenderloin(co) and pick up a 20 dollar crack ho(most dispos/shops). You get repulsed by her repugnant stank pussy(weak bud). You then blame all working girls and capitalism as the driving force behind not washing their crusty stanky bits. When in reality there are high end call girls and even other Street walking gals in other locales(tlcla and numerous other shops) who bring the goods, despite money being the same motivator, the difference? Customer satisfaction and due diligence and maybe even a love for the craft(not sure how many chick's loved getting banged by weirdo strangers, apologies if you're a normies that's a fan of working girls)... My condolences if you ever do find yourself in the tenderloin...