THCdurk said:

Have that Lil nigga fly in my ear or something when I'm sleeping. I don't think so lol I don't trust those dudes they like kamikaze flyers don't give a fuck if they die or not.

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ok I read this an laughed so hard outloud I snorted. AN IN MY EXPERIENCE if that's wifi og that is the SHIIIIIITTTTTTT!!!!! SIGN ME UP!!!!! that's one I wanna grow next year. Good luck

THCdurk said:

Well went to the growstore wit @THCwavy and didn't see shit wit humic acid so I got a flushing solution called florakleen just gonna flush them and see what happens

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good luck on finding humic acid along with azomite, well for me anyway, I ordered off eBay I think. U can stir it in the top an water or mix it in some tea, don't panic it's organic, u won't burn nothing. It was like five bucks for a baggie of it. For some reason Utah comes to mind. Maybe that's where the azomite comes from idk, stoned. An damn it it I WANT A WIFI OG !!!! LOLZ

I'm a newb, but this what I use

Yeah I couldn't in that shit at the store so thanks bro

THCdurk said:

Yeah I couldn't in that shit at the store so thanks bro

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What's up my Dudes?
My Santa gift pack arrived fine and dandy today,I'm Rollin in CBDs now..
And like you said @THCdurk I will be popping some Lemon WiFi soon also . So if your popping any keep me posted on how they look and grow .
My first ones I'm going to run will be a CBD strain ,looking for something good.
STR8

GreenHouser said:

I'm a newb, but this what I use

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That looks like some great stuff.. Never tried the brand personally, but you can't beat the many benefits of Humic Acid and Azomite..

Good looking out for a buddy Green. :) Thanks for sharing

THCdurk said:

Well went to the growstore wit @THCwavy and didn't see shit wit humic acid so I got a flushing solution called florakleen just gonna flush them and see what happens

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Just ensure on next watering to restart your feeds after initial watering with Florakleen.. since it is helping remove any salt buildup etc.. :)

That way no deficiencies progress and nice and clean roots for the following nutrient feed.. :)

Just my opinion. :) As you know plant's have a mind of there own and I haven't tested much with FloraKleen..

Hopefully this helps some.

Moto said:

That looks like some great stuff.. Never tried the brand personally, but you can't beat the many benefits of Humic Acid and Azomite..

Good looking out for a buddy Green. :) Thanks for sharing

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Just remember boys all those beans were crossed with the same studdmuffin

gravekat303 said:

Just remember boys all those beans were crossed with the same studdmuffin

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Agreed LOL.. Love your logic.. :)

Moontang to tha poontang!
STR8

Norcal catpiss x moontang he definitely reminded me of chem in structure and smell just add some earthy ammonia to the party nothing sweet at all

Flushed her wit the florakleen today gonna give her another flush prolly in a day or two

THCdurk said:

In coco I don't know exact ph but I use the drops and it's around 6.0 I did order the pH reader today tho @gravekat303

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Ok, before you add any nutrients, please check your environment. 1. Is is hot or cold? Is it damp or dry? what lamps are you running? Have you got enough air exchange?
Before you do anything with a bottle, plese check your environmental conditions. make sure there isnt a stress vector coming from the location. No boittle can help you if your temps are running to hot, or if you room is too dry, or you dont have enough light, or even too much.
if you let the pots dry too much, too often, if they are kept wet too long too often...etc.

So looking at your plants. You are losing Iron....and there could be a number of reasons why,
looks like a pH climb bro, but know pH climb is a result, not a cause.

Probably losing Sulfur and Iron, certainly Iron is one of the first elements to go once pH climbs. Whats the run off reading. This isnt an exact science, but if you are out of pH, eg above 6.5, you will be losing everything.

What do i do in coco?
I water in from 5.5-6.2 in coco. I closely monitor my media pH with a soil / media pH probe, a proper one, not a $10.00 job from ebay or other. I use Bluelabs fyi.

One thing to know about Coco, it has a slight negative charge, so it tends to hold on to Cations (positive ions) like calcium, preventing these getting to the plant. As these build up, they are binding with elements like Phosphates, converting them in to CalPhos for example
Organic acids like humates will certainly help you mate since they both chelate your micros like Iron, this prevents them being in a state to bind with other elements, but since you are in coco, technically hydroponics, you might prefer to use a Fulvic acid and not a Humic acid. why? Well humic acids is typically served to us as Potassium Humate. What is potassium, it is a cation. So adding more cations to an already loaded media will increase the problems you have. You need a solvent mate. Water is a solvent of course, eg it dilutes salts, but because you likely have binding occurring, you need to separate these elements again. Adding an organic acid like Fulvic will help create the conditions that favor the acidity of your media. You might try ading a Yucca supplement to your feeds. Again this will help the acidity of your media, it will also help your nutrients distribute more evenly.

Adding things like Mycorrhiza fungi will also help. Fungi secrete organic acids which help to break Phosphates from Calcium for example. It is fungus that allows our plants, and those in the wild, to maintain access to phosphates which like acids to be mobilized.

Lots of coco is pre buffered, this happens by companies rolling the coco fibres in calcium nitrate usually.Is yours?
Sometimes adding other cations on top of this, seems to cause a pH climb esp in bloom as the plant pulls harder on P and N.
Guides are not science, they are a point from which to base a decision. All plants like people are individuals. It could be you have over fed, it could be you have under fed. Diagnosing peoples plants on line is a risky game mate, but check your environment, then if this is good, check your feeds, watering frequency, pH etc. Do not grow in Coco if you dont have tools to maintain a pH.

Hope if gets fixed.

Eco

added sorry, as a plant eats an ion of P- it will release an ion of H+ to maintain homeostasis. The plant could not give a shit about the balance of your media, only itself. So as H+ ions are released since our plant is in bloom and feeding heavily on P this is happening alot, these + ions are attracted to the negative charge of coco. over time this over powers the negative charge, and so makes it positive, here it repels cations like calcium, these then bind with left over P for example, and bingo pH climb. pH climb is a consequence of something else, it is not the thing, the thing is media ion overload via free radicals which compound over time. As more and more gets locked etc, charge swings, so pH is affected. Address the matter, not the pH.

organic acids scavenge free radical ions. Simple.

Eco

I use these humic based products for teas and foliar sprays..that quantum is also a inoculent that is really badass.
Durk you gotta go living soil and teas brother..no pH meters, rarely a deficiency.
Get you a ten gallon bucket and air pump and you good to go.
Worm castings,kelp meal,molasses,humic acid,sea bird guano, calmag,coconut powder,aloe vera,asprins, and that quantum is all i used this season so far and these ladies are super healthy.
Of course takes some learning but researching no till/live soil techniques is weeeelllll worth it.
Keep costs to a minimum and hardly any deficiency problems.
This chemical to counteract that chemical type problems get tricky quick sometimes ..
50% coco or peat. 45% soil. 5% perilite is a good fast draining medium that you can mix up,inoculate and get some killer results with.
Feeding your mediums microorganisms and not your plants is the way to go.

Still has a month to veg but so far no deficiency the whole time and been vigorous the whole time.
It's complicated shit but microorganisms that create a symbiotic relationship with your roots affect your plants in many many ways. Definitely worth checking out.

MrRojos said:

I use these humic based products for teas and foliar sprays..that quantum is also a inoculent that is really badass.
Durk you gotta go living soil and teas brother..no pH meters, rarely a deficiency.
Get you a ten gallon bucket and air pump and you good to go.
Worm castings,kelp meal,molasses,humic acid,sea bird guano, calmag,coconut powder,aloe vera,asprins, and that quantum is all i used this season so far and these ladies are super healthy.
Of course takes some learning but researching no till/live soil techniques is weeeelllll worth it.
Keep costs to a minimum and hardly any deficiency problems.
This chemical to counteract that chemical type problems get tricky quick sometimes ..
50% coco or peat. 45% soil. 5% perilite is a good fast draining medium that you can mix up,inoculate and get some killer results with.
Feeding your mediums microorganisms and not your plants is the way to go.

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I am with this dude LOL

MrRojos said:

Still has a month to veg but so far no deficiency the whole time and been vigorous the whole time.
It's complicated shit but microorganisms that create a symbiotic relationship with your roots affect your plants in many many ways. Definitely worth checking out.

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what we can say MrRojos, nature has evolved for plants to live with microbes, no microbes equals no bueno. Most of the nutrient value, flavor, shelf life, oil% is directly attributed to modulations of the local environment by microbes, otherwise not possible by a plant alone. Failure to adopt the billions of years of evolution in our own practice, is a shortcoming of humanity more widely. we always seem to imagine we have a better idea. Rarely is this true IMO.

My temp really 75-80 and the humidity is 30% I just got a ph meter this my first coco run.
I used the flora keen to help flush out the buildup then I was gonna start wit a little lower feed. And the coco I use is bio bizz I take out the back give a good rinse let dry then plant seeds. @Ecompost

THCdurk said:

My temp really 75-80 and the humidity is 30% I just got a ph meter this my first coco run.
I used the flora keen to help flush out the buildup then I was gonna start wit a little lower feed. And the coco I use is bio bizz I take out the back give a good rinse let dry then plant seeds. @Ecompost

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:) May take him a bit brother, because he is always busy with farm and life.. But doesn't get much better friendly support and knowledge..

Why I wanted him to meet all you cool fuckers and see this bomb thread. hahaha.. Lol :)