TGR’s High Elevation Grow Journey

[TheGoldenRoad]

Throw this in your notebook for next run
On that tasty looking liberty haze,
Lower your frequency of nitrogen sooner if you can help it like for instance if you were using Greenleaf cal mag in conjunction with the mega I would just drop the cal mag and if it’s still persisted with the shining on the leaves and the hooking, then I would back off at least half of the dose of the mega as well

Noted.

It ain’t easy bein’ green

She’s had no Mega in around 4 or so weeks too. Stuffs potent.

 

[Captspaulding]

Noted.

It ain’t easy bein’ green

She’s had no Mega in around 4 or so weeks too. Stuffs potent.

So are you measuring using a measuring cup or a measuring spoon?

I thought I read that you were, and if so, I would invest in a cheap digital scale stat

 

[Captspaulding]

Noted.

It ain’t easy bein’ green

She’s had no Mega in around 4 or so weeks too. Stuffs potent.

Oh bro, like I’m not hating that shit looks looks fucking fire, it can happen and definitely with the mega crop. I’ve ended up with some waxy leaves and shit at the end of the day myself it’s not the end of the world as long as you tick it down at some point in time b4 chop. Try ti stave off any possible effectbto taste,

But like toucan Sam dude you gotta follow your fucking nose and you say that shit smells dope so wakka wakka!

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

So are you measuring using a measuring cup or a measuring spoon?

I thought I read that you were, and if so, I would invest in a cheap digital scale stat

I measure in grams on a scale

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

Oh bro, like I’m not hating that shit looks looks fucking fire, it can happen and definitely with the mega crop. I’ve ended up with some waxy leaves and shit at the end of the day myself it’s not the end of the world as long as you tick it down at some point in time b4 chop. Try ti stave off any possible effectbto taste,

But like toucan Sam dude you gotta follow your fucking nose and you say that shit smells dope so wakka wakka!

I’ve actually been pretty surprised with how green it’s stayed. The Ayahuasca did the same thing.

Edit: I did the same thing to the Ayahuacsa

 

[Captspaulding]

I’ve actually been pretty surprised with how green it’s stayed. The Ayahuasca did the same thing.

It’ll generally stay that green until harvest because of the simple fact that your plants demand for nitrogen is pretty friggin low at that point and when the plant flowers it’s searching for other things like potassium and phosphates so if anything you’re just gonna get a fade from those two, if you’re not throwing the kitchen sink at it with P and k but as far as the nitrogen demand And the lack there of, that’s why a plant will carry that nitrogen overdose look through the harvest
If you get a little lax

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

It’ll generally stay that green until harvest because of the simple fact that your plants demand for nitrogen is pretty friggin low at that point and when the plant flowers it’s searching for other things like potassium and phosphates so if anything you’re just gonna get a fade from those two, if you’re not throwing the kitchen sink at it with P and k but as far as the nitrogen demand And the lack there of, that’s why a plant will carry that nitrogen overdose look through the harvest
If you get a little lax

I do like this formula for the Greenleaf. I’ve had to toy with the Mega dosage for a couple of plants but it’s gold.

 

[Captspaulding]

I measure in grams on a scale

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OK, that’s good. You should do that. I wonder who it was that seen using scoops

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Oh bro, like I’m not hating that shit looks looks fucking fire, it can happen and definitely with the mega crop. I’ve ended up with some waxy leaves and shit at the end of the day myself it’s not the end of the world as long as you tick it down at some point in time b4 chop. Try ti stave off any possible effectbto taste,

But like toucan Sam dude you gotta follow your fucking nose and you say that shit smells dope so wakka wakka!

this.


its not necessarily the nitrogen, phosphorous, magnesium etc, itself that affects the end flavor. Its the effect the mobile nutrients have on late flower chlorophyll production that actually impacts taste and burn negatively. Although excessive phosphorous and sulfur late flower can def make those little sparky trichomes weve all seen on buds before, but it takes a TON to make that happen.

The reason a flush even affects flavor and burn beneficially is because it slows down chlorophyll production, which is predominantly made out of nitrogen, magnesium, and phosphorous. Which allows it to out gas and break down faster during the dry then it would have otherwise.


When you sample 0 day flushed flower, vs 10/14 day flushed flower on spectrographs, terpene content and mineral content of the flower will actually be more or less the same, if not slightly less aftr the long flush, this has been proven several times and verified independently from multiple sources. What changes is peoples subjective reports of the way the smoke feels in the lungs and aftertastes left in the mouth, and their reports of how evenly and fully the herb burns. But thats actually a chlorophyll content thing, not a mineral content thing. Chlorophyll that isnt broken down mineralizes in heat very easily, hence the chunky black crystalized ash from poorly dried and cured, unflushed smoke

You just want to try, if you can manage it, to have chlorophyl production on th downhill slope by the time you cut. But the worst case scenario is that you jut have that kinda harsh burnt chlorophyll taste going on after a rip.

But if you seriously nail your dry, like make it take at least 10-14 days, youll usually give your chlorophyll enough time to outgas and break down before jarring. So even if you cant get that chlorophyll production dropping before harvest, you can definitely still manage that in the dry and cure quite effectively with a little care.



Fun fact: If youve ever wondered why heat dried buds shrink so much more then air dried, its because heat exposure makes cellulose coil up like a slinky lol.

 

[Captspaulding]

this.


its not necessarily the nitrogen, phosphorous, magnesium etc, itself that affects the end flavor. Its the effect the mobile nutrients have on late flower chlorophyll production that actually impacts taste and burn negatively. Although excessive phosphorous and sulfur late flower can def make those little sparky trichomes weve all seen on buds before, but it takes a TON to make that happen.

The reason a flush even affects flavor and burn beneficially is because it slows down chlorophyll production, which is predominantly made out of nitrogen, magnesium, and phosphorous. Which allows it to out gas and break down faster during the dry then it would have otherwise.


When you sample 0 day flushed flower, vs 10/14 day flushed flower on spectrographs, terpene content and mineral content of the flower will actually be more or less the same, if not slightly less aftr the long flush, this has been proven several times and verified independently from multiple sources. What changes is peoples subjective reports of the way the smoke feels in the lungs and aftertastes left in the mouth, and their reports of how evenly and fully the herb burns.

You just want to try, if you can manage it, to have chlorophyl production on th downhill slope by the time you cut. But the worst case scenario is that you jut have that kinda harsh burnt chlorophyll taste going on after a rip.

But if you seriously nail your dry, like make it take at least 10-14 days, youll usually give your chlorophyll enough time to outgas and break down before jarring. So even if you cant get that chlorophyll production dropping before harvest, you can definitely still manage that in the dry and cure quite effectively with a little care.

That extended dry is fucking everything dude agreed

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

OK, that’s good. You should do that. I wonder who it was that seen using scoops

Hopefully they’re found sooner rather than later. The Sweet Candy and PK Explosion would probably kill a plant in scoops. Where some would weigh out at about 5-7 grams you would be at probably 10-15 grams by weight in a teaspoon.

 

[Captspaulding]

Hopefully they’re found sooner rather than later. The Sweet Candy and PK Explosion would probably kill a plant in scoops. Where some would weigh out at about 5-7 grams you would be at probably 10-15 grams by weight in a teaspoon.

Yeah, and if you actually followed the dosing instructions on the back of the bag that came on their nutrients in general dude like I don’t know what would happen, but I’m pretty sure they would just be burnt match stick sticking out of dirt

 

[Captspaulding]

this.


its not necessarily the nitrogen, phosphorous, magnesium etc, itself that affects the end flavor. Its the effect the mobile nutrients have on late flower chlorophyll production that actually impacts taste and burn negatively. Although excessive phosphorous and sulfur late flower can def make those little sparky trichomes weve all seen on buds before, but it takes a TON to make that happen.

The reason a flush even affects flavor and burn beneficially is because it slows down chlorophyll production, which is predominantly made out of nitrogen, magnesium, and phosphorous. Which allows it to out gas and break down faster during the dry then it would have otherwise.


When you sample 0 day flushed flower, vs 10/14 day flushed flower on spectrographs, terpene content and mineral content of the flower will actually be more or less the same, if not slightly less aftr the long flush, this has been proven several times and verified independently from multiple sources. What changes is peoples subjective reports of the way the smoke feels in the lungs and aftertastes left in the mouth, and their reports of how evenly and fully the herb burns. But thats actually a chlorophyll content thing, not a mineral content thing. Chlorophyll that isnt broken down mineralizes in heat very easily, hence the chunky black crystalized ash from poorly dried and cured, unflushed smoke

You just want to try, if you can manage it, to have chlorophyl production on th downhill slope by the time you cut. But the worst case scenario is that you jut have that kinda harsh burnt chlorophyll taste going on after a rip.

But if you seriously nail your dry, like make it take at least 10-14 days, youll usually give your chlorophyll enough time to outgas and break down before jarring. So even if you cant get that chlorophyll production dropping before harvest, you can definitely still manage that in the dry and cure quite effectively with a little care.



Fun fact: If youve ever wondered why heat dried buds shrink so much more then air dried, its because heat exposure makes cellulose coil up like a slinky lol.

And I would think just off the top of the head that applying a heat dry would be killing two birds with one stone for like making tinctures and shit. I don’t know it’s just me guessing cause I definitely stay away from any type of heat exposure when I’m drying my herb that’s any more than 80° and even then I start tripping out when I see that number or anywhere close to it honestly, I don’t like being over 75 at any point when I’m drying my herb.

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

Yeah, and if you actually followed the dosing instructions on the back of the bag that came on their nutrients in general dude like I don’t know what would happen, but I’m pretty sure they would just be burnt match stick sticking out of dirt

I’ll bet you’re dead on point there

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

That extended dry is fucking everything dude agreed

its way more important than a clean flush, even though i consider a clean flush beneficial to the dry and cure process.


Even if you get that chlorophyl on the downhill slope.... dry that shit in 5 days and jar it at 50% rh and no ones going to enjoy that smoke.


Nail the dry and cure, with unflushed buds, and no ones going to complain for a second.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Yeah, and if you actually followed the dosing instructions on the back of the bag that came on their nutrients in general dude like I don’t know what would happen, but I’m pretty sure they would just be burnt match stick sticking out of dirt

can confirm.


On the bag, Those are def dosing levels for in ground plants capt. 100%. I dont know why they dont clarify that, but those are def in ground dosage levels.

 

[Captspaulding]

can confirm.


On the bag, Those are dosing levels for in ground plants capt.

Now that you mention it, I think I remember something about that, now I gotta go and look at it again

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Now that you mention it, I think I remember something about that, now I gotta go and look at it again

i dont think it mentions it, its just in the picture or something lol.


if you combine the mega crop with the bud explosion as per recommendation, you get like 2800 ppm at like 4.5 ph lmfao. That would kill my indoor gals in about 48 hours flat. def in ground outdoor levels. thatd be perfect for boosting a large in ground plant in healthy live natural soil.

 

[Captspaulding]

its way more important than a clean flush, even though i consider a clean flush beneficial to the dry and cure process.


Even if you get that chlorophyl on the downhill slope.... dry that shit in 5 days and jar it at 50% rh and no ones going to enjoy that smoke.


Nail the dry and cure, with unflushed buds, and no ones going to complain for a second.

Yup, it’s been quiet as church mouse around these parts in that regard. But during the more damp months around here, it really is a ace of my sleeve. You know my grow rooms are very controlled, but there’s other areas in my house that from May all the way through to the end of September I have the benefit of high humidity that I can just basically curtail by cracking a window get it right around that Goldilocks zone at 62% With just a fan in the window a lot of the time

 

[closettrapper217]

Throw this in your notebook for next run
On that tasty looking liberty haze,
Lower your frequency of nitrogen sooner if you can help it like for instance if you were using Greenleaf cal mag in conjunction with the mega I would just drop the cal mag and if it’s still persisted with the shining on the leaves and the hooking, then I would back off at least half of the dose of the mega as well

I will say this and it’s maybe just me being green but my liberty haze was dark ass leaves just like this until the starting showing senescence for whatever reason. Could very well be too much n because I was worried about how they were looking the whole time lmao