The Crystal Palace is back, now with a Spiderfarmer SE5000.

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So, as I recall, one of the last things you (@Aqua Man) said was that you were amazed DB had LED installed...
He has said a few times now how impressive the Spider Farmers are.

I guess the question now is, do you think they're worth it @Dirtbag?
If you had to outfit a new grow room, what would you buy?
 
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Well.. the universe has given me a couple signs today. First.. finding the koolbloom ripener today. Now, I just mixed in a Tbsp to an 18 gal res that started at 250ppm.

I'm just gonna leave it here. 😜
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Dirtbag said:
Well.. the universe has given me a couple signs today. First.. finding the koolbloom ripener today. Now, I just mixed in a Tbsp to an 18 gal res that started at 250ppm.

I'm just gonna leave it here. 😜View attachment 1208255
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That’s like when your tripping balls and everything just comes together

damn 1tbspn for 18gal

some stong stuff

I might get some
 
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ComfortablyNumb said:
So, as I recall, one of the last things you (@Aqua Man) said was that you were amazed DB had LED installed...
He has said a few times now how impressive the Spider Farmers are.

I guess the question now is, do you think they're worth it @Dirtbag?
If you had to outfit a new grow room, what would you buy?
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Loaded question.. if I had to outfit a new room.. depends on my budget. If money wasn't a factor I'd probably go with a sealed Co2 enriched room and use 650-1000w LED's. As for brand.. I'd shop around. Though the SE5000 has quite honestly knocked my socks off with its capability for a 480w fixture. I would be very interested in seeing how the SE7000 or their new 1K fixture performs.

That said, I would have absolutely no qualms about rocking an SE5000 for a personal vented tent grow. I think its the perfect light for a ventilated tent setup really. And SF customer support has been so far quite good, warranty is solid.. the things that matter are there. If using Co2 you'd want a light with a bit more jam, but you know this.

At the end of the day though.. just because of my grow style and the environment I work in.. with money being a factor, I would probably go with 750w DEHPS if I was going to outfit a new room tomorrow. I can get them for $200 a unit all day long on the used market. And they will do everything a 650w LED will for a fraction of the investment cost.
 
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Dirtbag said:
Loaded question.. if I had to outfit a new room.. depends on my budget. If money wasn't a factor I'd probably go with a sealed Co2 enriched room and use 650-1000w LED's. As for brand.. I'd shop around. Though the SE5000 has quite honestly knocked my socks off with its capability for a 480w fixture. I would be very interested in seeing how the SE7000 or their new 1K fixture performs.

That said, I would have absolutely no qualms about rocking an SE5000 for a personal vented tent grow. I think its the perfect light for a ventilated tent setup really. And SF customer support has been so far quite good, warranty is solid.. the things that matter are there. If using Co2 you'd want a light with a bit more jam, but you know this.

At the end of the day though.. just because of my grow style and the environment I work in.. with money being a factor, I would probably go with 750w DEHPS if I was going to outfit a new room tomorrow. I can get them for $200 a unit all day long on the used market. And they will do everything a 650w LED will for a fraction of the investment cost.
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So, you are looking more at immediate, upfront expenses instead of long term costs?
 
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ComfortablyNumb said:
So, you are looking more at immediate, upfront expenses instead of long term costs?
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The difference between running 750W of HID or 650w of LED isn't that big in terms of power expenses. And new lamps once a year I'd wager would still be cheaper than initial purchase or replacement cost of an LED when it gives up the ghost. As far as I know they also have a best before date. I'd be ventilated either way so in that regard it wouldn't make much difference.
And a used HID setup can always be resold. An old worn out LED I don't think would get you much money back when you're done with it.

I'd just be looking at overall return on investment.
 
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