you see the reasons.....um....possibly because you HAVE a commercial grow goin on? Ya think? LOL.
Nobody is denying that we have a commercial operation. We have more patients than we can produce for already. I don't need more. I have never been afraid of free market or competition in any fashion. If you think you got it better, bring it to market :-)...the moratorium is over.
Honestly, I have no idea what this initiative will do to the market. I suspect that increased availability will continue to drive prices down. But on the flip side, there will be 10 to 12 times the number of commercial customers. Who knows what will happen. I'm pretty smart but have no fucking idea where this will go at the consumer or the commercial side of it. I'm just leaning towards supporting it because I think it will keep most people out of jail for growing their own pot at home.
"you know what would happen..."
I'm pretty sure some smarty pants growers would rent 10+ houses. Blow up pounders in the basements and sling 30 pounds every couple months under the table. While I am the ultimate supporter of free enterprise and free market, there is no way in hell that society, the police, the lawmakers, the tax man, or the neighbors will buy into that scene. It's always a few bad apples that will "blow up the scene" and fuck it up for everyone else.
So what would happen? Same thing that happened throughout history? Friends sell to friends and their friends in private?
While that's all cool with me, this is America. Shit gets taxed in America. Income gets taxed, Property gets taxed, and Sales get taxed. The same reason that you can't run any other commercial operation from your house would apply to Marijuana. If you give it away, who cares. When you take cash in, the system wants their cut. They don't care if you are selling weed, donuts, or hookers they want their cut.
What's so wrong there....other than cutting YOU AND THE STATE out?
I would continue to do just fine if this amendment fails. I didn't ask for the system that we have now. I was plenty content when we were just caregivers for 20+ patients. Life was much simpler then. I was forced by legislation to either boot patients to the curb or kick it up a couple notches in order to cover the additional overhead and expenses. Adapt to changes in environment...That's what some of us do.
C'mon...don't insult us all AGAIN with this crap shit story of how no one can find pot if you guys aren't there peddling it on Main street or how the existence of warehouse grows to (supposedly) stock retail outlets is something we need/needed in Colorado....or that none of THAT bud isn't hitting the street as we speak.
I never said or implied anything like that. It's your bias against the system speaking, not me. There has never been an issue for anybody to get marijuana from the black market. If somebody can't score a bag, they have a bigger problem than being out of weed. The market is big enough for everybody.. the black market, caregivers slinging their "extra", dispensaries, and individuals sharing their dispensary meds. It's all out there already.
...just wait until every tom-dick-harry can fire up without worry in their home....even if they stay small....and they WON'T...cus YOU didn't.... and think of what THAT will do to your demand/the need for you to even exist. (?)
The potential for people to do that exists even now without 64 passing. Some do it underground, some do it under the guise of caregiving, some do it legally... It's all out there already. I'm pretty sure the rules that follow passage of 64 would throttle back the explosion, but I am sure that many will attempt to get in and attempt to make a profit. Just like dispensaries.. there may be a bazillion that make a go of it. The herd has thinned by a significant margin at this point. Even with the moratorium lifting back in July, I don't see any new shops hitting the block. Just more closing down.
It will be interesting to see how LEO addresses home grow sizes. They won't be able to get a warrant based on smell anymore if it's legal to grow. Perhaps excessive electric consumption will trigger it with 12 hour cycles flagged by the digital power meters. Maybe they just wont care. Wouldn't that be nice.
Have you ever considered that this is the end of MMJ in CO...and may just very well be a way for the State to "cleanse" itself of 1284/the stoners who created the model and start all over with a new system/supply line of their choosing that just doesn't include...and may even exclude...those who licensed under 1284??
I think both MMJ and Consumer MJ would coexist. The difference in that Medical Marijuana will not have the surtax indicated in the amendment, but retail consumer will. Will the cost of the red card and Dr. visit be less than the tax savings ? Don't know.
I believe that there is language in 64 that gives priority to licensed centers because they have already gone through the process. How much will that restrict a bazillion people from opening shops? Probably not much I suppose, but that can be limited by local regulations.
I mean....why would anyone get a Med card if it passes? Why would they go to a "Center" if they can buy it a the liquor store? Why would the State want to have to regulate 2 programs that deal (literally) with MJ?
Q1=To save on the price via no surtax maybe.
Q2=They would have to go to a licensed MJ retail center. I couldn't be sold at a liquor store.
Q3=Governmental bloat.. they create as many jobs to pay themselves as much as they can. Personally I hope nobody buys red cards. I would love to strip the millions of dollars from the Health Department. You shouldn't have to buy a license, and they suck badly at their job.
I'd be far more worried about your gig than what folks might do in their own homes...none of which can be regulated or tracked....and all of which will affect you/your market share...just as you did to all patients after 1284 was passed and the rug was pulled from under all of our feet.
I'm not worried about my gig. I was looking for a job when I found this one. No jobs, means get off your ass and make your own job. That's what we did.
For the life of me I can't figure out why you are so bitter. You still grow. You can still take care of your patients. You can still make a buck or 2 on the side with "caregiver services". You are doing what you want. What rug was pulled from under the feet of the patients? They can still grow their own if they want. They can still have a private caregiver grow for them if they want. They can go to a dispensary to purchase their meds if they want. How did the patients get hurt here besides lower prices on meds?
Somehow we got off the amendment 64 discussion and turned this into the dispensaries fucked up the world thread.
Let's see if we can actually talk about some of the good or bad points of the actual amendment...
Voting for it or against it, and why?
