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Yes... no airstones in f/d e/f only recirculators.
DS when you install this type of configuration in a clients grow is it neater? do you have all the hoses and wires running all willy nilly like in the pics? just curious.
peace,
Ham
Yeah, I hear ya. Just like the rest here, sometimes my posts are too damn long, but I like to cover things best I can. CCH2o is money and those guys treated me well. I feel its ur best and maybe quickest option, unless D.S knows of something smoother and faster?
good work man.
I am not a water tech, though i took a few classes in ag school. That is all the work of Culligen and our plumber.
Come one guys one man can only do so much...
=P
this thread is hella old.. Ditch the sterile system and go get yourself some ogbiowar and brew up the tea... You will have great results and never have to worry about the slime againHas anyone tried Cocowet or another type of soap in their res (sterile system)? I have HEARD that's what Dutch Masters Zone is but can't confirm the hearsay.
I just recently had an issue with brown slime. It wasn't pythium, it didn't smell like sulphur or swamp poo. It smelt like nice dirt. I believe it was just an algae buildup as I didn't run covers on my tubs this run to see if I needed them or not (long story short, you need covers, light in res is bad). My tubs are home depot 27 gallon strong boxes, yellow lids, panda film cover.
The only other time I have seen this type of brown slime was about 8 years ago when I had one of these stupid things that let a ridiculous amount of light into the system.
I taped up the reservoir with black duct tape and it cut the problem way back but didn't fix it completely since the white "fence post" sites still let some light in.
Anyway, my RDWC system was crashing pretty hard a couple weeks ago (serious yellowing of fan leaves, slime) and I used 2.5ml per gallon of 34% peroxide initially to clean it up. I then added about a tablespoon of cocowet (in 250 gal system) and that seemed to make them bounce back in a few days. I have been adding 1.5ml per gallon of peroxide every 2-3 days and it has gone away/stopped and hasn't returned. Haven't drained the res yet. New root growth as well. The cocowet initially made a bit of a foam party for a minute but it went away in a couple of hours.
I ran molasses in a sterile system and that might be what caused it to brown up as well. I don't think I will run molasses again in a sterile system. I have run it before with the covers and not had a brown slime issue but the combo of light and sugar wasn't good this time.
What I run:
GH maxi powder nutes
GH diamond nectar humates
Maxicrop seaweed
grotek silica
cal mag
snowstorm at finish (I have seen white slime from this product in live resevoirs and it recommends to use it with peroxide)
I reuse my airstones but soak them in a pint of 34% h202 per 5 gallon bucket for a few hours after I have scrubbed them with simple green. It needs to be clean first, then you can sterilize it. no clean, no sterile. Goes for everything else.
Lesson learned for sterile systems; No molasses in system, no light in system, 1-2ml per gal 34% peroxide twice a week, and a little soap seems to be the best combo I have found to date.
Anyway, thoughts on using soap in a sterile system?
if u have that many problems its pry your water... i think it might be time to give up RDWC and go with soil/coco.... Soap?? No lolTried going live for a over a year and nearly starved to death. Benni Teas, koi pond bacteria, water at 58 degrees, ect tried about everything. Horrible results, constant pythium problems with 2-3 weeks left to finish. Went back to sterile and only had issues when I didn't cover them up and didn't add peroxide for 3 weeks and the issues weren't nearly as bad as they were with the live res. I get better results sterile.
I'm not about to get into a live vs dead debate but I was just curious if anyone else had tried using soap in a sterile system. The soap/h202 combo killed the algae/slime that was on the sides of the buckets and cleaned up the root zone. Was curious if anyone had tried this before, I haven't seen it mentioned.
If you are chilling the water with a chiller and circulating the nutrient solution through the chiller, that's probably your issue. You need to chill a separate Rez. The chiller will get messed up and so will your nutrient water if you pump it through the chiller.
I have now been running my water from my system through the chiller for 3 years... Never any problems... Most recently ive run both sterile and live system... I dont think running the water through the chiller causes any problems... MAYBE if you get lazy and let water sit in your chiller for an extended period of time you could have negative effects.. But if u do everything normal i dont see and havent experienced any problems..I have never run nute solution through my one ton chiller. I cool 3- 50 gal uc8xl, 1- 100 gal uc8xl13 and 40 gal f and d system with this chiller. Stainless steel is great but it still is porous, which will let nutrients and bacteria grow on it. Its easier to clean a remote coil in your rez then in your chiller. I cant open my chiller and clean that coil.
The remote coils I use.... http://www.nybrewsupply.com/beer-ho...s-steel-wort-chiller-w-brass-gh-fittings.html. They work great and for only $50.
When you set your chiller at 65 the coolant in the coil isn't 65 its more like 55. so all the nutrient solution around the coil is probably dropping from 67 to 58 deg. Very unstable.
Using a separate rez setup has worked for me. And I dont get the brown root issue. But do what works for you.
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