The War on Medical Marijuana in MI Super Thread, NEWS,BUST,LAWS <<<<Updated Often>>>>

[stonestacker]

Amen to that.

They can't rob passive cannabis smokers of their hard earned belongings anymore, so they are being FORCED to focus on the real problem: METH and HEROIN.

Seems they admit, one way or another, that the reason for targeting cannabis users is that they manage and invest their money into things for their family, unlike crackheads.

TNT DIE SLOW.

I can't like this enough!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LittleDabbie]

Flint Anonymous activist seeks $5 million on allegations of wrongful arrest

FLINT, MI – A Flint man is suing the city of Flint for $5 million, claiming he was harassed, assaulted and arrested without cause by a city police officer more than a year ago.

The lawsuit, filed Nov. 6 in Genesee County Circuit Court, claims Adam Gerics was illegally arrested on Sept. 27, 2013, by Flint police Officer Felix Trevino Jr. outside of Gerics’ home on Stone Street near University Avenue.

Gerics said he suffered emotional trauma and psychological injuries following the incident.

The city, its police department and Trevino are named as defendants in the lawsuit, which has been filed in Genesee County Circuit Judge Archie Hayman's court.

City Attorney Peter Bade said he had no comment on the pending litigation.

Attorney Parvine Boji said the initial lawsuit she filed on Gerics' behalf sought $500,000 each for six separate counts, but that she plans to file an addendum that will ask for a total of $5 million including punitive damages, attorney fees and costs.

“It stems from nothing,” Boji said. “The guy was on his own property minding his own business.”

In the lawsuit filed Nov. 6 with Genesee Circuit Judge Archie Hayman, Gerics claims he was arrested without cause, assaulted during the arrest and jailed in the Flint City Lockup for almost three days without being charged.

Gerics operates a medical marijuana compassion club, claims membership in the Flint chapter of Anonymous – an activist group that has protested everything from government surveillance to genetically modified food – and has been a vocal opponent of many decisions made during the state takeover of the city.

He videotaped his arrest and posted it online last year.

The video shows who Gerics says is Trevino arresting Gerics after Gerics questions why the officer and a neighbor are walking by the front of his house. Gerics previously said he and the neighbor had an ongoing dispute and the neighbor has since gotten a personal protection order against him.

The video is from in front of his home, Gerics previously said. It shows a neighbor and a plainclothes police officer walking by a house. The two men then walk by Gerics’ home and Gerics can be heard making accusations about his neighbor.

Gerics then accuses them of harassment and twice uses an expletive. The officer, whose badge can be seen hanging around his neck, then approaches Gerics.

“Come here. I want to talk to you,” the officer is heard saying to Gerics.

“Why? What are you, a cop?” Gerics asks. “You going to screw with me?”

“Yep, I sure am,” the officer responds.

“Why? What did I do?” Gerics is heard asking the officer.

“You’re under arrest for breach of peace,” the officer responds.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2014/11/flint_anonymous_activist_seeks.html

 

[john martin]

Very interesting, I appreciate all your updates!

For others with a lack of vocab., as myself:

ex·ple·tive
ˈeksplədiv/
noun

1. 1.
   an oath or swear word.

 

[oscar169]

All I can say is FUCK TNT, tell all the officers to get real jobs, b.c they are not doing their jobs, Were soooo scared of the Meth Heads and they will shot back and run us over with there cars given the chance and then we can't take any of there stuff, AWWW Shit,
I want to rob and arrest upstanding citizens that Grow MMJ and pay there bills and have nice cars and have all their Front Teeth.. Fuck TNT

METH HEADS

MMJ Users

 

[sixstring]

All I can say is FUCK TNT, tell all the officers to get real jobs, b.c they are not doing their jobs, Were soooo scared of the Meth Heads and they will shot back and run us over with there cars given the chance and then we can't take any of there stuff, AWWW Shit,
I want to rob and arrest upstanding citizens that Grow MMJ and pay there bills and have nice cars and have all their Front Teeth.. Fuck TNT

METH HEADS

MMJ Users

thanks you oscar for this most usefull post....especially the last few pics :D:D:D

 

[LittleDabbie]

LOL some of those meth fuckers were just uglie to begin with... you ain't fixing stupid and uglie :P

 

[oscar169]

thanks you oscar for this most usefull post....especially the last few pics :D:D:D

Thanks Bro...:)

LOL some of those meth fuckers were just uglie to begin with... you ain't fixing stupid and uglie :p

That story abut TNT crying like fucking babies just made my whole week Bro, You have no Idea, TNT is a waste of TAX Payer money and them GOOD OLD BOYS are starting to squeal.
Whats Better Going into a nice Clean house that grow MMJ and taking everything or having to put on your Big Boy Boots and doing this shit and dodging bullets ??
Straight from TNT Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Traverse-Narcotics-Team/200769043422145

 

[oscar169]

Special Report: Meth House Clean-Ups

Video>>> http://www.9and10news.com/story/27405039/special-report-meth-house-cleanup#.VGvT0oS0s9k.facebook

Them fat fucks have to really work when the hit the Meth Houses

 

[VERMONTSKUNKS]

Here's a quick question im curious about Oscar................by how much did the Colorado population increase once they legalized herbs there???

 

[oscar169]

Here's a quick question im curious about Oscar................by how much did the Colorado population increase once they legalized herbs there???

I don't think they have new numbers out yet, But the Homeless shelters are saying out there that they are flooded with a wave of Homeless people that want to live in the state b/c of the Legal weed so if them numbers are up I'm sure we will see the numbers of people that moved out there to buy or rent homes going threw the roof, again only what I have been reading...:)

 

[oscar169]

Higher Ground: The Pot Racket
Crunching the numbers in marijuana’s march to legalization
By Larry Gabriel

Let's play a little numbers game today. This is not the kind of numbers they played in an illegal lottery that flourished for decades before states started taking over the gambling business.

Back in the 1940s, my uncle was a numbers runner who walked down alleys collecting nickel and dime bets in an illegal lottery that flourished for decades in poor neighborhoods. He couldn't write down the numbers that people wagered on because that was evidence if the police caught him. He had to memorize each number, who bet it, and the amount wagered. It was a tricky and intricate situation where a good memory came in handy.

This has little to do with marijuana other than an example of a formerly illegal industry (numbers game) that was taken over and made legal by the government (Daily Lottery) in order to benefit from the money folks were spending on it and to take it out of the hands of gangsters. I'm not calling my uncle a criminal; let's just say he was interesting. He's the only person I've ever known who liked to drink scotch and milk together.

But let's move on. Numbers, and remembering them, can sometimes be key information in discussing what's going on out there when it comes to fighting for the end of prohibition. They also help to assess where you're at in terms of turning it around. The following numbers aren't abstractions in any sense. They help define the reality and course of events as we change our social relationship with marijuana.

8 That's the number of Michigan cities where voters chose to legalize marijuana or make it a Lowest Law Enforcement Priority (LLEP) in this last election cycle. Back in August, Oak Park and Hazel Park did it. A couple of weeks ago, Mt. Pleasant, Saginaw, Berkley, Port Huron, Huntington Woods, and Pleasant Ridge did it.

5 That's the number of Michigan cities that voted not to legalize marijuana. Voters in Lapeer, Frankfurt, Onaway, Clare, and Harrison said no to the weed on Election Day. Surprisingly, these represent the first time Michigan voters turned down the opportunity to lessen penalties for marijuana possession. It was very close in Lapeer, with a population under 9,000, but it lost by six votes. It seems that the smaller the city and the farther north the vote, the less support there is for marijuana reform.

17 That's the number of Michigan cities that have voted for decriminalization or LLEP laws for small amounts of marijuana since 2011.

165,000 to 16,000 The bigger number is the sum of the populations of cities that voted in favor of legalization. The smaller number is the sum of populations of cities that voted against legalization. You can tell which way things are trending here.

3 That's the number of states (or vaguely similar regional entities) where voters chose to legalize recreational use of marijuana this year. Oregon, Alaska, and Washington D.C. all voted to legalize recreational use of marijuana, joining Washington state and Colorado. D.C.'s law is different than usual in that it does not set up any state system of sales and taxation, but allows home grows of up to six plants and allows transfer of up to an ounce without payment. Due to the weird status of D.C., the initiative must be submitted to Congress for a 30-day review. That won't happen until January.

8 oz. That's the amount of marijuana an adult in Oregon can possess. That's also the limit per household. Most states don't allow more than about two or three ounces at a time, but you never know when a ½-pound stash is going to come in handy.

56% That's the margin of voters in Guam who voted to legalize medical marijuana in the U.S. territory.

58% The number of Florida voters who said yes to medical marijuana in the state in the last election. Unfortunately, the amendment to the state constitution lost because it required 60 percent of the vote to pass. At times, the amendment was polling well into the 60s, but casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson spent about $9 million to defeat the measure.

75% The amount of jet parts that that will be made from industrial hemp if all goes as planned for Derek Kesek. Kesek, the former owner of an organic restaurant in Ontario, has contracted with a Florida company to build the aircraft mostly of hemp next year and intends take his first flight from Kitty Hawk, N.C., where the first successful airplane flight took place. The four-seat jet's wings and outer shell, in addition to other parts, will be made from hemp instead of the usual fiberglass. Kesek plans to run it on hemp-based biofuel. Being high on marijuana could come to mean an entirely different thing.

O That's the amount of people known to have died from a marijuana overdose. That number stands in stark contrast to the thousands who have been killed in the War on Drugs. This brings us to the tragic story of 2-year-old Alexandria Hill. After her father admitted to using marijuana early in 2013, Alex was removed from her parents' Texas home and placed in foster care. The foster mother she was placed with was recently found guilty of murder in Alex's death later that year.

Alex's parents reported seeing bruises on her during parental visits, but authorities left the child in the foster home. Those blows culminated in death one day when Alex's foster mother slammed her to the floor. A medical examiner testified in court that the slam was so violent that the child suffered "subdural hemorrhaging, subarachnoid hemorrhaging, and retinal hemorrhaging in both eyes." An autopsy revealed several bruises over the child's body.

This is another case of the stigma of marijuana (I discussed it a few weeks back in this column) poisoning people's perceptions. Alex was reportedly happy and healthy while with her parents. Had she not been taken from them, it's likely she would still be alive today.

The last refuge of prohibitionists is "we must protect the children" from marijuana. Protecting the children should include keeping families together, whether they are in cases such as Alex's, orBree Green (the girl in Michigan who was removed from her home and later returned to her medical marijuana patient parents). This includes cases in which families are separated by incarceration for nonviolent drug crimes, or custody cases.

It certainly doesn't mean putting kids in situations where they'll be tortured and killed.

693,481 That's the total of marijuana arrests in the United States for 2013, according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report — 88 percent of them for simple possession. That's a lot of people entering the criminal justice system, but it's down from the 750,000 arrested in 2012, and continues a trend down from the 872,721 reported in 2007. There's still a long way to go before this is over, but it looks like the drug war is winding down.

4 That's the number of wrong answers I got on the 20-question quiz "How much do you know about marijuana," which can be found on the Christian Science Monitor website. It's fun. Give it a try and maybe you can raise your marijuana quotient.

This is not all to suggest that the marijuana movement is equivalent to some kind of lottery, although some people stand to make a lot of money in an open marketplace. Actually some folks have been making plenty in an illegal marketplace. However, as the numbers in support of marijuana grow (despite the cash of people like Adelson) politicians and police will take note. And that will be a jackpot for us all.

http://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/higher-ground-the-pot-racket/Content?oid=2267701

 

[oscar169]

Marijuana policy expert discusses debate over legalization in Michigan
VIDEO>>
MIDLAND -- An expert on marijuana policy who has advised the White House made a stop in Mid-Michigan Tuesday night.

Doctor Kevin Sabet has advised the Bush, Clinton, and the Obama administrations.

"There's very sold research tying regular heavy marijuana use to lower IQs, to lower worker productivity," said Sabet.

Sabet says recent efforts to decriminalize the drug through city ordinances in Michigan are largely symbolic and cautions the state about decriminalizing marijuana for recreational use. Hey says people in Colorado have been creating a whole "big marijuana" industry similar to big tobacco.

Advocates for loosening restrictions on Marijuana say they are seeing growing support in recent years. Supporters see marijuana as a source of tax revenue and say legalization would reduce the number of people being prosecuted for pot possession in the courts.

 

[redlife215]

I really doubt there is any good for the country as a whole from legalization of marijuana. Only the fact that innocent people won't be thrown in jail anymore but they could have done this by just making it a fine. When we legalize it the country is just gonna be a little more fucked up not a lil better. And alot of super cool people like me will be out of a good paying job lol jk bout that last part

 

[LittleDabbie]

Garbage truck driver arraigned in Royal Oak woman's death

A pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Dec. 17 for a garbage truck driver accused of being under the influence of marijuana when he struck and killed a Royal Oak woman. John Neville, 49, of Almont, was arraigned Wednesday in front of Oakland Circuit Judge James Alexander. Neville, who is charged with operating while intoxicated causing death, moving violation causing death and possession of marijuana, was ordered last week by a district judge to stand trial in the matter. Authorities said Gail Schmidt was crossing 11 Mile Road on foot when Neville turned onto westbound 11 Mile from Woodward. He ran her over and dragged her body at least 1,000 feet before being stopped by Birmingham police officers who had been in the area and were behind Neville’s truck. After being stopped, Berkley police said Neville seemed to be unaware that he ran someone over. Neville had THC in his system at the time of the incident, according to a blood test. He is free on a $25,000 bond.

 

[john martin]

If it goes legal more people will smoke instead of drinking, this alone will do much good for the country.

I have been smoking since I was 11, off and on, and although I am absolutely no genius, my IQ is well above average. I have held 2-3 jobs consistently since I had a car and was able to travel, and manage my money much better than most. I am also healthy and active, spend a lot of time with family and friends and am extremely non-violent. Too many misconceptions about cannabis.

The biggest health concern when using cannabis, is the stress everyone judging you causes. I should be able to smoke a big fat joint and walk into a church without getting eyeballed and looked down upon, while 90% of the people there have alcohol problems or are on multiple prescriptions far worse.

 

[redlife215]

People that drink won't stop drinking to smoke, they will do both. And drinking and alcohol are 2 different things. I understand the link between weed and prescription meds but there is no similarity between weed and drink. That's like saying if we legalize coke then peopke will stop using heroin

 

[john martin]

I have about 50 friends that drink when they run out of smoke, and don't drink when they have smoke.

This is part of why the alcohol industry is fighting legalization so much, it will cut into their profits.

This obviously doesn't apply to everybody, but does apply to more than you seem to want to believe.

I'm not sure why you are involved in something you don't believe is beneficial?

Not to mention when it is completely legal people will have much easier access to edibles, which is the best way to cure diseases with cannabis, hands down.

Big pharma stands to loose a lot of profits as well, for the reasons you mentioned and many others.

Plus all the people that don't currently smoke for the sole reason that they get drug tested at work, if it goes legal and this changes there will be huge waves of people that smoke to relieve their stress instead of many other methods they are forced to deal with.

Seems to me you buy in to the whole 'stoners are stupid' main-stream media agenda a bit too much my friend.

Even if every single American gets stoned all day, it would be better than all the prescription meds everyone is on.

I have dozens of friends that have been addicted to pain killers and other various hard drugs, and am speaking from experience (From Meth to Special K to Heroin to Oxy, the list goes on). I also have many friends that both smoke and drink and I'm not trying to say drinking is good or bad, but the fact is many that drink rather smoke, but can't.

Plus lots of people currently smoke cannabis, that rather be ingesting it, but the laws in states like Michigan, or even non-med states make it difficult for some.

If you don't think cannabis is beneficial I suggest you find a line of work that you don't feel guilty about.

The main reason Scheutte is against Medical Marijuana is because his family is heavily involved in big pharma companies and stands to loose a lot of profits.

 

[redlife215]

Uhh u sound dumb. I never said weed isn't beneficial for helping people. I love weed and have been growing for most of my life. Now like I said before the rate of alcohol consumption will not decrease when weed becomes legal and I am not saying that alot more peopke won't smoke when it is legal I just said I don't see the good in legal. Where do u see me buying into the stones are stupid idea? U just made a bunch of shot up and like I said before u sound stupid

 

[john martin]

Mind quoting something I 'made up'?

Edit: Actually I don't care what you think.

99% of people that read my post will know it is all true.

I have no reason to make things up.

Have a good day bro!

 

[redlife215]

I'm not sure why you are involved in something you don't believe is beneficial?

Seems to me you buy in to the whole 'stoners are stupid' main-stream media agenda a bit too much my friend.

Not really made up but definately making assumptions. And i am all for decriminalization of marijuana and medical marijuana. I feel like smoking weed isn't really medicine but definately has medicinal value. I smoke more weed then I even like to admit and it has therapeutic properties and I can't imagine my life withough it, but on the other hand to make it legal isn't really what we want, it will be putting the money into the same corps pockets that u claim it is going to be taking money out of. Big pharmacy big tobacco and lord knows who else will be the major suplier of mainstream weed and weed will be way more accessible then it should be and it will have a negative impact on an already fucked up country. We as Americans aren't really the most responsible nation when it comes to substance abuse so making weed cheap and easit to get isn't really the answer. I am a fighter for weed rights and am not trying to see peopke in need without it, shit I'm not even trying to see grownups who just wanna get high without it but to make it legal will open a fucking crazy door of commercialization of weed that just won't do anyone any good except for the bug corps that have the money to put a stranglehold on the market. U are ignorant and unintelligent