Tips on first grow autos

[cpurola]

I found this website that explains how they recommend watering organic soil. What do you think? @JIMKSI64

Great Lakes Water Only Soil

 

[KushloverSlo]

Sorry for my late update i had quite a long month behind me.
So long story short i setup my box and for now i only have humidity problems. I got a small humidifier and put.it in the box but it xan go up to 90%
Tomorrow im going to buy a bigger humidifer since my room humid is constantly at 35. When i turn on my inline fan it instantly drops to 30%.
Temperature is at around 30c. But my dumb ass didnt understand that i can dimm the lights. They were on 100% power all the way and burned me one plant.
So now i have planted 1x sherbet queen and one Milky way F1.
Blue cheese auto is germetatinf as we speak.

The Sherbet queen looks great but the Milky way has some yellow leaves. But those that fall of eventualy anyway. I thought it may be cause the intensity of the light was at 100% and she got burned.
I put the light at around 55cm or 20inch or so im not sure. I water when the first 5cm of soil arw completly dry.
Been putting some.wey towels to incrase my humidity. Hope they survive till i get the big one.
any tips on how to keep a stable temp and humid. My PH of the soil is 6.5 so thats good i guess.

 

[KushloverSlo]

Oh yea right now im.running 18-6 light schedule.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Yes ya need to get that plant under some more humidity.
Seedlings need humidity and that high a vdp can cause problems.

However. We have seen these plants adapt to some pretty marginal conditions and do ok.

 

[KushloverSlo]

Yes ya need to get that plant under some more humidity.
Seedlings need humidity and that high a vdp can cause problems.

However. We have seen these plants adapt to some pretty marginal conditions and do ok.

I got it to 60% now at a constant with this small humidifier working on 1 out of 3 power. With one window open and if i turn down the carbon filter.
Is thw filter needed much at this phase? If not i could keep this humidity without him. As soon as i turn him on the humidity drops to my room humid.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Here is a neat tool to see what the recommended humidity for different temps. The closer you stay to the good the better it will be.
But again this plant can adapt to higher or lower humidity but it does not like quick changes where the plant environment goes up and down more than 2.5% in a short time, say 10 minutes for long periods of time.
You just put in your temp and humidity and it tells you where you are.

VPD Chart

Vapor pressure deficit (VPD) chart & calculator for horticulture in controlled environment. Cannabis, tomatoes, leafy greens, cucumber.

vpdchart.com

 

[KushloverSlo]

Here is a neat tool to see what the recommended humidity for different temps. The closer you stay to the good the better it will be.
But again this plant can adapt to higher or lower humidity but it does not like quick changes where the plant environment goes up and down more than 2.5% in a short time, say 10 minutes for long periods of time.
You just put in your temp and humidity and it tells you where you are.

VPD Chart

Vapor pressure deficit (VPD) chart & calculator for horticulture in controlled environment. Cannabis, tomatoes, leafy greens, cucumber.

vpdchart.com

I guess i should turn my heat up to atleast 28,29 to get into the light blue zone?

 

[JIMKSI64]

Well perhaps.
The vdp listed is not outrageous in fact at one time I had a tent with 2 in flower and 2 in late seedling early veg at that point, about 1.2 vdp.
What I also have is a well controlled environment so my temp moves about .2 degrees uup and down and my humidity stays withing 2% of settings.
This allows the plant to adapt. What stalls plants is the wild swings that halt and restart transperation events that power the plant.
This environmental control raises transperation rates and the pressure inside the plant. This results in a tabletop flatness to the leafs and it is an indication that the lights and the environment are dialed pretty well.

I have already made some environmental decisions based on this. I ran plants. For a few weeks at a lower temp because it had rained and a few other issues had driven the humidity up. This made my humidity swings over 3% up and down and it was multiple times an hour. Totally stopped leveling leafs.
Reduction in temp from 80 to 78 put it back in the zone at same vdp I wanted just not the temp I wanted.
Go with stability over temp and humidity as long as you are in the lane.

 

[KushloverSlo]

Well perhaps.
The vdp listed is not outrageous in fact at one time I had a tent with 2 in flower and 2 in late seedling early veg at that point, about 1.2 vdp.
What I also have is a well controlled environment so my temp moves about .2 degrees uup and down and my humidity stays withing 2% of settings.
This allows the plant to adapt. What stalls plants is the wild swings that halt and restart transperation events that power the plant.
This environmental control raises transperation rates and the pressure inside the plant. This results in a tabletop flatness to the leafs and it is an indication that the lights and the environment are dialed pretty well.
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I have already made some environmental decisions based on this. I ran plants. For a few weeks at a lower temp because it had rained and a few other issues had driven the humidity up. This made my humidity swings over 3% up and down and it was multiple times an hour. Totally stopped leveling leafs.
Reduction in temp from 80 to 78 put it back in the zone at same vdp I wanted just not the temp I wanted.
Go with stability over temp and humidity as long as you are in the lane.

Will do ill try to keep it around this what i have now till i can get my hands on a bigger humidifier. Hoep they can do well with 62% humid and 25c.
Keep u updated
Thanks alot for everything

 

[orggrwr]

I got it to 60% now at a constant with this small humidifier working on 1 out of 3 power. With one window open and if i turn down the carbon filter.
Is thw filter needed much at this phase? If not i could keep this humidity without him. As soon as i turn him on the humidity drops to my room humid.

No, you don't need the carbon filter at this point in the grow. The filter is just to absorb smells in flower. I usually disconnect the filter in veg and early flower to extend the life of the carbon. You do still need the exhaust fan for air exchange but at this stage you can run it very slow if it helps keep a stable environment. Good Luck

 

[JIMKSI64]

As the plants get bigger you will drop humidity. The settings you are at are good to week 2 after puffballs arrive. Then push it up. Whatever you do up down or sideways just look for stability.
I finish plants at 75 degrees after any trics appear on buds. Studies have shown higher temps during flower burn off terps. Some strains as high as 20%

 

[KushloverSlo]

Thank yall ill keep u updated, its stable for now im sure ill have much more control next week.
Cant wait to see them grow i feel like its christmas again. Hahaha i listen to the box from time to time just to hear them talk.

 

[KushloverSlo]

My PH is at around 7.5 any tips on how to get it down. I saw some tips to use lemon acid. Or lemond juice but i got concentreted lemon acid. It shows my soil is wet so i dont know if i should water it now to down my ph or wait till my earth is dry again. Ty

 

[KushloverSlo]

Here it is set to PH

 

[KushloverSlo]

So guys today is day 6 as these 2 babies grew out.(1st one is Sherbet queen, second is Milky way F1.) I keep my 320w light at 50% dimmed, water by needs as i got a digital meter to meassure wetneess light and ph of earth. So i water every 2 or 3 days. I keep my tent at around 65 humidity with the temp not exceeding 26-27c. I also ordered these all in one Hesi fertilizers. Easy to use and some growers i know from Germany said they be good for my 1st grow. I wont use any till the third week of my grow.
My soil mix is 70% soil, 15% perlet and 15 percent 15% coco fibre.
I Love to watch them grow omg everyday they get a 1cm or 2 bigger. Amazing. The sherbet queen is actually much better and stronget then the F1. I germanteted the blue cheese and put it in soil yesterday. I had 2 duds so i hope this one come out fine.

 

[KushloverSlo]

A small update on my babies.
SHerbet queen is 1 week in flower already. Milky way and blue cheese both joined the early flowering club. Do these look fine to you. I feed them once every 2 watering. I use half the recommended dose. I still use veg nutrition in addition to flowering. I plan on stopping in a week and just give them flower nutrs.

 

[cpurola]

They are very pretty, great job!

 

[KushloverSlo]

They are very pretty, great job!

Thank you, they do recieve the most love me and my wife can offer. sometimes i think i feed them better then myself. Cant wait to see them grow and ofc to share my journey

 

[JIMKSI64]

A small update on my babies.
SHerbet queen is 1 week in flower already. Milky way and blue cheese both joined the early flowering club. Do these look fine to you. I feed them once every 2 watering. I use half the recommended dose. I still use veg nutrition in addition to flowering. I plan on stopping in a week and just give them flower nutrs.

What nutrition chart has you reducing nitrogen that early.
Plant is still growing even the puff ball showing one and the others appear to be just a bit behind.
Do not use gang mentality when watering and giving nutrition. Look at them as different plants and add stuff as they need.

 

[KushloverSlo]

What nutrition chart has you reducing nitrogen that early.
Plant is still growing even the puff ball showing one and the others appear to be just a bit behind.
Do not use gang mentality when watering and giving nutrition. Look at them as different plants and add stuff as they need.

Well im not. Blue cheese was planted almost 2 weeks after sherbet. Milky way was 1 week later. So i am aware they are different plants and have different needs.
Im still new to this so i hear alot of advices and i try my best to keep my head in place haha
Well i use Urban Ramo nutritions. And well im a little confused at times with the chart as it shows 4 weeks of veg and 6 weeks of.flower. Not quite sure how to act cause mine are autos. I know they need nitrogen while in early flower.
Any advices? Thank you