Ned Kelly said:

Anyone know what ole mate @soserthc1 ended up naming his strain .

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Danky Mcnugs said:

Well shucks...two of my three plants hermied this weekend. No light leaks. My white widow big bud feminized seed is doing great, not signs on herm. Guess those two seeds were just meant to be herms haha. Oh well that's what I get for messing with unknown seeds. My alien og was the worst of the two. It threw out some straight sacks. I plucked every one of them off bc I have seen absolutely none on the flowers forming. Its a good ways along for 16 days. Anyways what I'm getting at is can I pluck these sacks and the plant possibly be ok? I usually just throw them out but I can't afford to this round. The other plant only had one branch that showed herm traits.

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SeaF0ur said:

Variegation VS Mosaic Virus

First there is mutational variegation.. in this case the mutated sections generally do not produce enough chlorophyll to properly photosynthesize. The lack of chlorophyll causes a grey or yellow blotchy spot at random. The mutation either persists, or is minimized through cutting selection.

Then there is chimeral variegation... in this case there are actually 2 sets of differing DNA. This also can be controlled via cutting selection.

Finally, Viral variegation... Viruses don’t reproduce by themselves. They are ‘obligate parasites’... Once inside the plant, the plant is used to produce more virus. The plant cannot grow properly because its energy and nutrients are diverted away by the virus.

The variegation becomes the least of your worries here... I've seen just the entire left side of a plant wither and die while the right side stayed perfect... crazy twisted leaves... not just discoloration...

It should be treated as if it were airborne because an insect can transmit the virus, from plant to plant, just by flying around and making contact between plants... tools... soil... once in soil it can live for years and through winters...

If it's a virus, there is a test, but you'll likely know it once shit goes haywire... but I've found viral variegation to be much more rare than the other 2 types and they are not major issues.

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rubthe nub said:

Not to start a pissin match but I do believe 'mutational' and 'chimera' variegation are the same thing. Whenever a 'gene' mutates and shows variegation I believe it is a 'chimera'. Whether it is producing chlorophyll, carotenoids, or anthocyanins.
Viral infections can cause 'variegation' but that type of variegation is very unstable, ie; each leaf or flower is different or shows varying amounts of variegation.
The photos that were posted look more like a 'viral' variegation IMO than any other type.

These are examples of viral variegation, fwiw

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Periclinal chimeras are the most important category since they are relatively stable and can be vegetatively propagated. A mutation produces a periclinal chimera if the affected cell is positioned near the apical dome so that the cells produced by subsequent divisions form an entire layer of the mutated type. The resulting meristem contains one layer which is genetically different from the remainder of the meristem. If, for example, the mutation occurs in L.I, then the epidermal layer of the shoot which is produced after the mutation is the new genetic type.

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Mericlinal chimeras are produced when the derivatives of the mutated cell do not entirely cover the apical dome. A mutated cell layer may be maintained on only one portion of the meristem giving rise to chimeral shoots or leaves which develop in that portion while those that differentiate on all other portions of the meristem are normal, nonchimeral shoots. Many mericlinal chimeras involve such a limited number of cells that only a small portion of one leaf may be affected. As was the case with periclinal chimeras, mericlinal chimeras are generally restricted to one cell layer.

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Sectorial chimeras result from mutations which affect sections of the apical meristem, the altered genotype extending through all the cell layers. This chimeral type is unstable and can give rise to shoots and leaves which are not chimeras. Both normal types and mutated types can be produced, depending upon the point on the apex from which the shoots differentiate.

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Ned Kelly said:

anyone know the best stuff to get slime out of humidifiers , obviously something that wont harm the plants . cheers

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FlyinJStable said:

Its always a good problem to have.... to many great Ladies with not enough Flower space.
better than not enough to fill flower room... Now that would be a Travesty.
finished up run 6 and headed into the Jars tonight fer the long Cure.
numbers are getting better thanks to all the Knowledge here in the threads, Big Thanks to @Tnelz @Power OG @Capulator for always sharing with The FlyJ.
Sample Plate of my girls.
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LoL only keeping the ChemSoda OG #1 and the Poison Ivy fer myself this round . . . .
Now its time to Chuck some Pollen...
Peace Farmers
FlyJ

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rubthe nub said:

It 'might' not be TMV, it can be spread to other plants, via tools, hands, possibly bugs
Was it a cut you received? Unless it's something REALLY special I'd cull it.
At the very least try and keep it separate from the rest of the heard.

Here is a nice short page that will tell you what you need to know.
http://extension.psu.edu/pests/plant-diseases/all-fact-sheets/tobacco-mosaic-virus-in-greenhouses

test kits, kinda spendy but.........
https://orders.agdia.com/InventoryD.asp?loc=IN&collection=ISK 57400&attribute_Size=25

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