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hard to turn down easy money, dont blame them. lol.
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Its not just that i think. Veg/bloom had to call their fertilizer that so growers would think its all included. Or proper.

Maxi crop had to give free samples away for years before being accepted.

No credibility without the myth with weed growers. Thats why they have a pic with a guy in a labcoat. Instant credibility. Not necessarily earned though.
 
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Its not just that i think. Veg/bloom had to call their fertilizer that so growers would think its all included. Or proper.

Maxi crop had to give free samples away for years before being accepted.

No credibility without the myth with weed growers. Thats why they have a pic with a guy in a labcoat. Instant credibility. Not necessarily earned though.
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if you think nute companies care about anything other than the bottom line as in profits then smoke another one...lol, But seriously there is almost nothing that requires high P that is a consumable fruit or veggie. The closest things to MJ are hemp & Tobacco & guess what they want like 9-3-6 aka foliage pro by dyna grow, MJ wants more K tho
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Its business. I managed car dealerships for years then natural medicine sales. I get it.

But the guy is telling the truth in the interview.

My yield and quality went up dropping the bloom bottles.
 
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fuck, check out veg bloom nutes and tell me what you think. People said they were nuts for a long time for a 1 part base, only recently did they add the shine bloom boost
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Veg+Bloom nutes rock I assure you & they make a boost now... for dummies!
 
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MIMedGrower said:
Its business. I managed car dealerships for years then natural medicine sales. I get it.

But the guy is telling the truth in the interview.

My yield and quality went up dropping the bloom bottles.
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yes the Dyna grow dude is honest 100%! I meant every other nute co for the most part.. especially any with 10+ bottles in their line
 
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Lolol :-)


Ever see the Canyonero episode of the simpsons? Its the suv crusty the clown endorses.

In the fast talk fine print at the end of the ad the anouncer says quietly. “Not safe for on or off road use”
 
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MIMedGrower said:
Its not just that i think. Veg/bloom had to call their fertilizer that so growers would think its all included. Or proper.

Maxi crop had to give free samples away for years before being accepted.

No credibility without the myth with weed growers. Thats why they have a pic with a guy in a labcoat. Instant credibility. Not necessarily earned though.
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SHOTS FIRED AT RICKS LAB COAT BROOOOO!!!!!!
 
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SHOTS FIRED AT RICKS LAB COAT BROOOOO!!!!!!
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Nah he's right. Lab coats are a trust symbol. It does help sell stuff when people assume they are smart.

And I'm guessing sarcasm? So. Hehe. Have a nice evening everyone.
 
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No i realize veg bloom is a nute. again the point is any general grow nute will work fine. Low nitrogen and high pk are what is not needed in bloom. Its a myth. And the nute companies want us to believe bloom ratios are needed.

it really is an eye opening video. Advanced has published similar info. Look up the myth of high P.
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Makes sense. One of the most knowledgeable growers I’ve learned from did it professional horticulture for 30+ years and preaches the same thing. That the plant needs nitrogen and a balanced npk the whole time. He said the leaves are what produce the energy for bud so to not worry about growing the bud but worry about making sure leaves are as green and as healthy as possible the entire grow. He claims npk ratio of 3-1-2 is best the whole time and has the huge buds to prove it.
 
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Makes sense. One of the most knowledgeable growers I’ve learned from did it professional horticulture for 30+ years and preaches the same thing. That the plant needs nitrogen and a balanced npk the whole time. He said the leaves are what produce the energy for bud so to not worry about growing the bud but worry about making sure leaves are as green and as healthy as possible the entire grow. He claims npk ratio of 3-1-2 is best the whole time and has the huge buds to prove it.
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Flush for plush! I don't want to hear the olde wives tale of "my buddy". Proof is in the pudding boys.
 

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Flush for plush! I don't want to hear the olde wives tale of "my buddy". Proof is in the pudding boys.
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Already proved it with 3 different clones I was running 3 times each in my room.
 
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Already proved it with 3 different clones I was running 3 times each in my room.
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yeah i shouldnt have flushed for another week, checked trichs and theyre just milky maybe 10% amber. Live and your learn
 
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yeah i shouldnt have flushed for another week, checked trichs and theyre just milky maybe 10% amber. Live and your learn
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I harvest at all cloudy with a few ambers but directly on the calyx and only after the flowers are finished growing.
 
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I harvest at all cloudy with a few ambers but directly on the calyx and only after the flowers are finished growing.
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Thank you, you made me feel better!
 
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The interview i posted is from the president of dyna grow. He is saying most of his products are not needed and not helpful. No agenda. Just science. The proper ratio the plant actually uses through its stages is discussed. And it is eye opening.

He is also saying that uneducated growers are the reason he produces the extra stuff. The demand is too high to ignore and misinformation caises many to expect the bloom and additives bottles or wouldnt buy the base nute in the first place.

Advanced nutes has published basically the same info and also continues to sell a dozen extra bottles. Lol.

Consumer beware!
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the nectar guys say it too. " we made it because customers demand it" "you can grow great plants with like 3 or 4 out of 16 bottles.
 
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the nectar guys say it too. " we made it because customers demand it" "you can grow great plants with like 3 or 4 out of 16 bottles.
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I use one bottle of base grow nutes. Im doing it in promix now to compare with ocean forest. Only needed nutes after week 2 in 12/12 with OF. Starting at week 2 from seed or right off with clones now.

Nothing else should be needed for great results.
 
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I use one bottle of base grow nutes. Im doing it in promix now to compare with ocean forest. Only needed nutes after week 2 in 12/12 with OF. Starting at week 2 from seed or right off with clones now.

Nothing else should be needed for great results.
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TBH I would only use super soils if soils weren't gaurenteed with pests. Now that I am on biologicals heavy I am recosiderong for a Rec greenhouse I may be building. The terps and sugar off super soil is the best period.
 
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Pure blend pro grow. But i did it with Kind base and grow only and a powdered nute too.

There is an interview on dude grows show with the president of dyna grow revealing his lab tests of nutrition content through the stages. He says he only makes the bloom bottle due to customer demand rather than plant science.

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I commend your fortitude in trying to get this information out there.
 
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Man, I miss Carlin. What would he be saying now? That's one of my all time favorites. Thanks for posting.
 
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No i realize veg bloom is a nute. again the point is any general grow nute will work fine. Low nitrogen and high pk are what is not needed in bloom. Its a myth. And the nute companies want us to believe bloom ratios are needed.

it really is an eye opening video. Advanced has published similar info. Look up the myth of high P.
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Wait a moment, what about the idea of high N values leading to a higher leaf to calyx ratio?
 
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