Too much weed and read too many articles. Now I have a wild question.

[squiggly]

Also, I would like to apologize for making an ass out of myself. Just not cool of me.

Same goes for me as I obviously misread your statement.

That is what happens sometimes when it's only words and not faces we're talking to.

The "moratorium" means its illegal, for the most part, to do any kind of research on marijuana in this country. The government severely limits such research.

 

[Mr Withershed]

Lol, yea, I had to reread a few line myself. Cant read facial reactions, or pickup on the cadences in the voice for clues. And wow, almost no research at all? Even for our government that just seems overkill.

 

[caveman4.20]

So will I be barfing or munching out after I try a shroombud??

cook with em low tempatures lol

 

[Mr Withershed]

I imagined an effect of both hallucinations and your typical weed high. Make some no bake cookies, sheeet..

 

[Mr Withershed]

Yes you could feasibly do this. It may not work--but it's something that scientists have the ability to at least try. It may end up being too difficult especially when it comes to compartmentalization (deciding where the stuff will be produced) as plant and fungi tissue are pretty different.

The stuff degrades with heat, smoking it more than likely wouldn't do shit (good or bad).

No offense, but this--without question--belongs in your "Stupid Questions" thread you started.

When you say the stuff, are you referring to psilocin or psilocybin? Or are the two even very different?

 

[squiggly]

When you say the stuff, are you referring to psilocin or psilocybin? Or are the two even very different?

The are essentially the same. Psilocybin is rapidly converted to psilocin in the body. It's merely a phosphorylated form of psilocin--as with many phosphate esters it is quickly hydrolyzed in acidic conditions (the stomach).

 

[ttystikk]

So let me see if I've got this straight. Everyone hates the idea of glowing goldfish and GMO corn- but talk about using recombinant generic techniques to catch a new high and suddenly we're all for it?

 

[squiggly]

So let me see if I've got this straight. Everyone hates the idea of glowing goldfish and GMO corn- but talk about using recombinant generic techniques to catch a new high and suddenly we're all for it?

I personally don't hate any of it, with the exception of the very small percentage of GMO strains that produce pesticides--and even those I don't particularly hate. I'm just wary of them.

 

[ttystikk]

I personally don't hate any of it, with the exception of the very small percentage of GMO strains that produce pesticides--and even those I don't particularly hate. I'm just wary of them.

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of popular opinion, not scientific precision.

My opinion about GM food really boils down to this; these plants, animals, microbes and fungi have been evolving in this environment, dealing with one another and these pests for millions of years. We have a long ways to go to even understand how they do it, let alone start fucking with the programming.

 

[squiggly]

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of popular opinion, not scientific precision.

My opinion about GM food really boils down to this; these plants, animals, microbes and fungi have been evolving in this environment, dealing with one another and these pests for millions of years. We have a long ways to go to even understand how they do it, let alone start fucking with the programming.

On the level of possibly creating an invasive species that is predisposed to disease and possibly setting ourselves up for future famine and stuff of that I am quite alarmed--for the reasons you cite here.

In terms of giving humans cancer and shit like that because we spliced some genes in--with exception to the pesticide producing strains--it's a bunch of hogwash. We do actually understand how the organisms work well enough to understand whether or not we should eat them.

I think that's the big disconnect here honestly. People think we're blind here when in fact we understand these organisms and how to manipulate them implicitly in many ways.

As far as their adaptability and stuff like that, absolutely 100% we're behind the eight ball with these organisms. Who knows how they will evolve into the future.

As far as eating an apple which has been modified to grow bigger--suggesting its unsafe only demonstrates how little the individual saying as much knows about the science not how little we as a species know.

Excluding pesticide producing crops, I'd feed exclusively GMO produce to my nieces and nephews without losing a wink of sleep or batting a waking eye. I think antibiotics and hormones in feed and shit like that is a WAY bigger problem, or pesticides in the water supply for instance (Did you know pesticides are even showing up in rainwater now? This is not good.).

This doesn't mean organic isn't better. It is. It just means most GMO crops aren't going to cause people to grow a third arm from their forehead.

 

[ttystikk]

Well and carefully put. I'm no stranger to the complexities of bioengineering in the modern world. It seems we are concerned about the same things.

And that confirms my concerns... which concerns me greatly!

 

[caveman4.20]

Is there any connection between GMO food and any growing health problems in Americans?

 

[Mr Withershed]

In terms of giving humans cancer and shit like that because we spliced some genes in--with exception to the pesticide producing strains--it's a bunch of hogwash. We doactually understand how the organisms work well enough to understand whether or not we should eat them.

I have to second squiggley on that one, I've been lightly researching topics of this sort for a while, and these guys REALLY do know what their doing,and have a very good idea of whether or not what they don't know will kill us or not. The only thing aside from the pesticide producing strains that really scares me is the idea of such knowledge being used with ill intentions.. I had a really
wack ass dream one time that all of the food everywhere wasn't safe to eat, not because of genetic modification but radiation in this case, and the only things that were edible were things that survived the radiation, which was mainly humans, so everybody went frickin cannibal. Probably from playing too much Fallout 3 (woot woot!) but anywho..

 

[ttystikk]

One more idea to contribute to this thread, which has been more about trying to give people the intellectual space to pursue their bliss than any particular innovation, would be that I think it's always worthwhile to pursue an idea with merit.

With my limited time and resources, I plan to use the metrics of ease of adoption and maximum tangible benefit to sift through my ideas and decide which to pursue.

Combining, or 'stacking', drugs is the wave of the present; Red bull, vodka- and viagra, anyone? Topped off with a line of coke, a lil Molly and a bong hit? I'm not sure what combining the drugs in the same source would do, except remove the choice of doing them separately?

 

[Theoneandonly Z]

Combining, or 'stacking', drugs is the wave of the present; Red bull, vodka- and viagra, anyone? Topped off with a line of coke, a lil Molly and a bong hit? I'm not sure what combining the drugs in the same source would do, except remove the choice of doing them separately?

holy fuck, thats my mornin routine in a nutshell. and honestly, i would much rather do individual drugs instead of one big concoction... where is the fun in that?

Shrooms are fun, but if your looking for an ultimate combo, i like psylocibin and MDMA at a 50/50 ratio made up into a nice little caramel... talk about hippy flippin. u can literally stare at a wall for entertainment, but whatever you do, never look in the mirror....