Leew421
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Agreed, you also add can use sulphur additives too
Thats more for flavor.. And we can add synthetic hormones for a boost too... I dont like adding stuff. Fruits like sulphur but we dont smoke em...i don't like terp or anything but a dry boosterAgreed, you also add can use sulphur additives too
Uvb increases oil.. Gland and changes the chemical make up of the trich cuticle
The DE hps has more of the Uvb than the 630 cmh and any SE hps , correct? I dont have ceilings for a 1k gavita but ive been looking at gavitas 600/750w DE... do these 600w de gavita give the same quality as a regular 1k de gavita and theres just more 600s needed to light the same space?Double ended is the superior choice from what ive personally seen, ppl pulling 3 per light, with quality as well. Different strokes for different folks, sixstring kills it with cobs in just about every department including yield.
Hey, I was just being honest about my growing skill. The skill of the grower has nothing to do with light physics. I am doing whatever I can to increase yield including building a lighting system and a UC system. Each harvest is bigger than my last and that is my goal. However, when it comes to light I have the engineering credentials to back it up but I am not interested in dick wagging about yields but I am interested in the science of horticulture and making each grow an improvement over the last.
Dee
When people use gpw as a barometer of light ability, it always tickles me. Shove one moe plant under it and BOOM goes the dynamite
the light game? ha okay.. let me check out your diaryI don't need your approval for shit. You sound ignorant to the light game
Dee, I couldn’t agree with you more. Like you, I’ve never reached the insane numbers I’ve read people getting. I know more is possible and welcome the challenge. Since I grow mainly for myself, weight is not the be all/end all but it’s certainly fun trying to get there.
There will always be a few growers hitting it out of the park with big numbers (they are the least likely to brag), there will be some who hit the good numbers and a bunch of us struggling to get there. I just like to be straight up about real yields and real issues. I hate when people exaggerate the numbers (not pointing at any particular person). It makes it harder to figure out where the bar really is. I think in a community of people one person's success is everyone's success and I hate it as well when someone rips into someone else about their achievements or lack thereof.
I like real data. I keep a really detailed daily journal and record every bit that I can. I like the challenge of growing this plant though. It's never as easy as it looks. I am experienced in light technology and some physics etc. (been a farmer, greenhouse builder/operator, orchid grower/breeder, grafting specialist (roses)....) but as a cannabis grower I feel I am into it far enough to recognize common problems and solutions but need lots of refinement to get the numbers up.
Dee
I agree, terpenes are increased by stress . I stress my plants by rubbing Branch's and stalk also cut random leaflets off , not hole fan leaf.Not an expert here but I have seen some evedence that UV stimulates some trichome production as a way the plant protects itself from too much sunlight but then there is some evidence that some LEDs like quality COB systems increase trichomes. One thing that LEDs and CMH have in common is a very high CRI in the range of 90 or more out of 100. When you see high quality COBs or CMH the first thing that stands out is the white color like midday sunlight.
One thing I do know from studying phytochemicals is terpenes are all about defense against bugs, mold, mildew and animals that want to eat the plant. since plants cant run away they use chemical warfare in the form of monoterpenes, diterpenes...etc. So, one big factor is genetics, then stress. Some people stress the plants to increase terpenes but IDK if the light has a big impact or if there is any conclusive data. I recently completed a couple of flower cycles with COB 90 CRI lights and was delighted with the results but what is really needed is several side by side runs with differentm lights with all other conditions identical.
Dee
some of what you are saying i agree with. But you are forgetting spectrum. plants grow differently under different spectrums. I said i don't think LEDS are quite there yet, meaning with technological advances i think they can and will be. what you said about cost is definitely true. it a high cost of entry. i worked as an assistant manager at a hydro shop and ran a warehouse and delivery service so i have experience in every facet of the industry. only thing i don't know and wont do on my own is set up the electrical work. i leave that to the professionals as i don't want to burn down the building. we sold every time of light and every type of set up... i have had hour long debates with sales reps, customers an coworkers. nothing could produce weight like a 1k hps. hortilux was the best back then, but things are changing now. Numerous DE hps(with mixed in LEC/CMH ) like a 70/30 splits in a stationary high point area is the best way to do it in a warehouse. which is the only way to go as residential electricity is too much money. this is strictly indoor though. i would love a greenhouse with supplemental lighting. that is the future for most. a couple niche indoor brands will survive and flourish though. as far as a closet grow LED would be a great choice. it doesn't run as hot and will cost less to run. but for anything serious LED is not the way quite yet. hopefully it will in the future. would be interesting to see how it turns out.
Where is your diary or at least a pic of bud from your 1000watt de,maybe your gpw????the light game? ha okay.. let me check out your diary
People that brag are fuckin idiots... Hey do a big bud and then a grinspoon... Yup... 3 a light okThere will always be a few growers hitting it out of the park with big numbers (they are the least likely to brag), there will be some who hit the good numbers and a bunch of us struggling to get there. I just like to be straight up about real yields and real issues. I hate when people exaggerate the numbers (not pointing at any particular person). It makes it harder to figure out where the bar really is. I think in a community of people one person's success is everyone's success and I hate it as well when someone rips into someone else about their achievements or lack thereof.
I like real data. I keep a really detailed daily journal and record every bit that I can. I like the challenge of growing this plant though. It's never as easy as it looks. I am experienced in light technology and some physics etc. (been a farmer, greenhouse builder/operator, orchid grower/breeder, grafting specialist (roses)....) but as a cannabis grower I feel I am into it far enough to recognize common problems and solutions but need lots of refinement to get the numbers up.
Dee
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