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here is some pics of my new stuff don't think im doing to bad but I know yall will be the judge of that lol
 

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Why don't u just use pH up and get to feeding? I'm just asking to expand my knowledge. ..
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bc the the stuff I have seen n read said this just as good and I don't have to spend money n order ph up

earth juice makes a good organic ph up n down
 
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Your tap water is hellish!
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freaking water is toxic I have to let the water set 24 hours before adding nute bc my cloin is the same as a swimming pool
 
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KEEP IT GREEN! Ill be checking in on your grow girly, just to help, not to hinder tinder. Have an awesome day!
 
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here is a little something to get you some good water Walmart has these......................
 
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that cost money I don't need to spend when it will cost me nothing If I run in to a problem still im going to trash anything thing and b done lol

bet that might make my water not taste like a butt hole in a mason jar
 
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bc the the stuff I have seen n read said this just as good and I don't have to spend money n order ph up

earth juice makes a good organic ph up n down
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I think your new plants look pretty good. As for health... nice green color. One pic looks funny but I think that must be cause of your light shining on them..
So you just add the organic pH up or is that what you have to bubble to get it to rise. Trying to follow along...
 
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I think your new plants look pretty good. As for health... nice green color. One pic looks funny but I think that must be cause of your light shining on them..
So you just add the organic pH up or is that what you have to bubble to get it to rise. Trying to follow along...
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I do NOT use a ph up or down the
the o2 in the bubbles bring up the ph over time if u using microblast u could add a lil molasses to feed the micro life to get the brew to go a lil longer if the ph ant where u want it

another thing I read is with the true organic ph don't really matter bc of the buffing but I don't trust that just yet
 
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I do NOT use a ph up or down the
the o2 in the bubbles bring up the ph over time if u using microblast u could add a lil molasses to feed the micro life to get the brew to go a lil longer if the ph ant where u want it

another thing I read is with the true organic ph don't really matter bc of the buffing but I don't trust that just yet
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Ahhhhh.... I understand. It seems a little time consuming. But if you like it and it works for you, then that's what matters..
Like I said your new plants look good. A lil stretchy, but that's techniques for another day.
But your well on your way.. At least you didn't tie down fan leaves like me on my first auto... :(
 
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u don't have to bubble all nute its earth juice and maybe others I don't know about its bc of the ph drop

this pic is my water after adding nute and my tap is ph 9

and im not saying u want to bubble for 48 hours 48 hours is the max any longer id toss it out bc it will smell like death
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9!!!! You live in Flint Michigan or something? ????????
 
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here is some pics of my new stuff don't think im doing to bad but I know yall will be the judge of that lol
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5th week of flower????
 
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5th week of flower????
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haft is 1 week the other haft is 2 weeks in flower
 
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you specifically told us that you are using coco loco...so are you using coco loco or not

also I might ask where are you from....

please do not take this the wrong way...but if you speak a foreign language there are apps to be able to write in your language and it will translate into english or any other language

it seems that there is a HUGE lack of communication between yourself and the rest of the community that is trying to help you out

here is the deal

with Earth Juice.....YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUBBLE ANYTHING BEFORE YOU FEED

it literally states that on there website
only if you are brewing a tea....WHICH YOU ARE NOT.
if you don't want to filter the water you are using then might I suggest going to the pet store and picking up some fish tank safe....which equalizes the chlorine in your tap

another thing is if you are adding microbes into high chlorine tap you are essentially killing any microbes that may exist....IN A BOTTLE....LOL
if you follow the feeding chart to a T exactly as prescribes you will be fine....
i also am assuming that EJ has given you wrong information maybe do to the lack of communication as well

I have walked many growers on this sight and others through many grows with many differ mediums...(coco, pro-mix, organics, outdoors etc....) and all have been successful ....not a hitch......and any pitfalls were grower carelessness not directions.....i.e......misjudging how much water to keep in the res, when to feed the plants....how often to feed them...or going off directions and skipping steps....and all of those mishaps I helped bring back to life

both Avid lifelong gardeners as well as newbies

I have been doing this for a long time.......

we are all here to help....

you just have to be ready to let your pre conceived misconceptions and thoughts on what you are supposed to do go.... and allow us to guide you through what to really do......and write it all down...once you have success and are able to repeat it...you can then dabble in the art of customizing your own growing techniques and feed schedules
 
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@tinderthumbs
you specifically told us that you are using coco loco...so are you using coco loco or not

also I might ask where are you from....

please do not take this the wrong way...but if you speak a foreign language there are apps to be able to write in your language and it will translate into english or any other language

it seems that there is a HUGE lack of communication between yourself and the rest of the community that is trying to help you out

here is the deal

with Earth Juice.....YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUBBLE ANYTHING BEFORE YOU FEED

it literally states that on there website
only if you are brewing a tea....WHICH YOU ARE NOT.
if you don't want to filter the water you are using then might I suggest going to the pet store and picking up some fish tank safe....which equalizes the chlorine in your tap

another thing is if you are adding microbes into high chlorine tap you are essentially killing any microbes that may exist....IN A BOTTLE....LOL
if you follow the feeding chart to a T exactly as prescribes you will be fine....
i also am assuming that EJ has given you wrong information maybe do to the lack of communication as well

I have walked many growers on this sight and others through many grows with many differ mediums...(coco, pro-mix, organics, outdoors etc....) and all have been successful ....not a hitch......and any pitfalls were grower carelessness not directions.....i.e......misjudging how much water to keep in the res, when to feed the plants....how often to feed them...or going of directions and skipping steps....and all of those mishaps I helped bring back to life

both Avid lifelong gardeners as well as newbies

I have been doing this for a long time.......

we are all here to help....

you just have to be ready to let your pre conceived misconceptions and thoughts on what you are supposed to do and allow us to guide you through what to really do....and write it all down...once you have success and are able to repeat it...you can then dabble in the art of customizing your own growing techniques and feed schedules
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Brother I wish I could sticky that. Very well said...
 
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Brother I wish I could sticky that. Very well said...
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thank you.......it just seems like we are all talking to a brick wall.....or maybe a "computer bot"hahahahahah

but in any case I really want to see this person succeed but man...this seems pretty challenging
 
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I will vouch for jim! I didn't know a damn thing 7 months ago, and now I run a flood table and a rdwc system, and coco... And the only time I have problems is when I'm lazy or try to add other bs the hydro store tries to pawn off on me.
Other than that, easy peasy. ..
By the wsy, when everyone else said feed autos half strength, wisher told me hit them with 1.6 to 1.8...
And I hit over 4 OZ on that plant.. I was sold on hid advice before that and that only confirmed it... and the rest as they say... is history....
 
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this is from the earth juice website

5. I’m hand-feeding my plants with Earth Juice Grow, so do I need to aerate the Earth Juice solution before using?


It is not necessary to aerate. Simply mix it with water and feed your plants. You can aerate prior to using if you choose; aeration is a great way of conditioning organic nutrients.



14. I mixed a solution using the Earth Juice Original Formulas “Advanced Chart” and my pH is 3.90?

Earth Juice will work in harmony with the medium and self adjust.

Since 1991, the mass majority of gardeners – including us – who use the Earth Juice Original formulas simply mix with water and use without adjusting the pH.

The initial pH of Earth Juice Original formulas will generally be on the mild acidic side. This is primarily due to the natural extracts, phyto-acids and protein (amino) acids contained in Earth Juice formulas. Earth Juice will self-adjust as it breaks down in the medium. In general terms: primarily by releasing naturally chelated Calcium along with Potassium and natural occurring beneficials. These various elements will aid in buffering the natural and beneficial phyto-acids (weak acids).

If you prefer to adjust the pH prior to using here are several suggestions or options:

– Always mix with potable Tap Water and use a high-quality professional planting mix that contains pH adjusters: lime, dolomite, oyster shell, etc.

– Aerate the solution for 12-24 hours. After the aeration period, if the solution exhibits an increase in the pH, do not adjust and use as-is. If there is no increase in the pH, adjust to the desired pH and use. For the next mix, prior to the aeration process, adjust the pH to 4.5 followed by aerating for 12-24 hours. After this period, if there is no increase in pH, adjust to desired pH and use.

– Add, with caution, a liming material to the medium: dolomite, oyster shell, etc.


the reality is if you have high chlorine water you need to either filter it through a carbon block or aerate the water for 24-48 hours prior to adding nutrients and mixing

if aerating to bring up ph...it specifically states above after 24 hours if it is not within range to adjust accordingly...using ph buffers (ph up/down)
 
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thank you.......it just seems like we are all talking to a brick wall.....or maybe a "computer bot"hahahahahah

but in any case I really want to see this person succeed but man...this seems pretty challenging
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Me too.. I like tinder! She is doing her thing! She kinda wants to build the world Trade Center before we learn cad.. is my opinion. Pl laugh at me for using fnb cause its so basic, but my shit looks good almost 24/7. And I have peace of mind...
But soon we change to Jacks. But since I got you Wisher it's not even a worry! I'm tank full every day for your guidance!
 
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this is from the earth juice website

5. I’m hand-feeding my plants with Earth Juice Grow, so do I need to aerate the Earth Juice solution before using?


It is not necessary to aerate. Simply mix it with water and feed your plants. You can aerate prior to using if you choose; aeration is a great way of conditioning organic nutrients.



14. I mixed a solution using the Earth Juice Original Formulas “Advanced Chart” and my pH is 3.90?

Earth Juice will work in harmony with the medium and self adjust.

Since 1991, the mass majority of gardeners – including us – who use the Earth Juice Original formulas simply mix with water and use without adjusting the pH.

The initial pH of Earth Juice Original formulas will generally be on the mild acidic side. This is primarily due to the natural extracts, phyto-acids and protein (amino) acids contained in Earth Juice formulas. Earth Juice will self-adjust as it breaks down in the medium. In general terms: primarily by releasing naturally chelated Calcium along with Potassium and natural occurring beneficials. These various elements will aid in buffering the natural and beneficial phyto-acids (weak acids).

If you prefer to adjust the pH prior to using here are several suggestions or options:

– Always mix with potable Tap Water and use a high-quality professional planting mix that contains pH adjusters: lime, dolomite, oyster shell, etc.

– Aerate the solution for 12-24 hours. After the aeration period, if the solution exhibits an increase in the pH, do not adjust and use as-is. If there is no increase in the pH, adjust to the desired pH and use. For the next mix, prior to the aeration process, adjust the pH to 4.5 followed by aerating for 12-24 hours. After this period, if there is no increase in pH, adjust to desired pH and use.

– Add, with caution, a liming material to the medium: dolomite, oyster shell, etc.


the reality is if you have high chlorine water you need to either filter it through a carbon block or aerate the water for 24-48 hours prior to adding nutrients and mixing

if aerating to bring up ph...it specifically states above after 24 hours if it is not within range to adjust accordingly...using ph buffers (ph up/down)
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Fuck that shit! Jesus christ, they must expect you to not have a job. I got no time for all that. I'm a get er fucking done now time of guy... I would go bannanas!
 
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Me too.. I like tinder! She is doing her thing! She kinda wants to build the world Trade Center before we learn cad.. is my opinion. Pl laugh at me for using fnb cause its so basic, but my shit looks good almost 24/7. And I have peace of mind...
But soon we change to Jacks. But since I got you Wisher it's not even a worry! I'm tank full every day for your guidance!
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thank you...yeah once you have been doing this shit for an extended period ....learning many differ things from people that do those thing exclusively....and you take it all in
it becomes easy to start simplifying everything...Standards...Basics......I even fall back to Basics..when I might run into a problem I will just fall right back to basic feed and basic technique and for some amazing reason......IT ALWAYS WORKS...
 
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