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Hey, as low as the percentages are.. Nearly 90% has found relief and some have blood work going in the correct perameters... So l...
Squigs, it kinda doesn't make any sense that cannabis may depress the immune system when research says that it may actually help with problems such as autoimmune disorders, does it?
If nothing else, then adding lysine to her daily regimen would help boost immune system response. If she's had surgeries then a combination of lysine+arginine is clinically proven to speed wound granulation. I've seen it in action myself, it's pretty amazing, and I use lysine for cold sores instead of the liver-killer Valtrex, and, get this--it's just as effective, and it's a fraction of the cost.
I always wonder how many docs actually know about that, vs dietitians.
Lo squiggly I know you're heart is in the right place and you have faith in the medical fields..I know I cannot fault you for that. And you are right..there are many multiples of types of cancer. One should be aware of the types and what treatments that could possibly be interfered with like blood transfusion..stem cell treatment, etc, but..it's more likely Cannabis wouldn't interfere with much of them. I do understand what you mean..smoked forms and impure production might lend to unwanted substances in raw cannabis..compared to an ingested raw and pure oil.
The reality of cancer treatment's for the vast majority of people are the big 3..surgery, chemo, and radiation. Which is akin to medieval practices...and always comes prescribed with a slew of opiate pain killers. Short of a Gearson type immunotherapy..there are very few alternative treatments that give persons a fighting chance. As for your top 3 infallable reasons not to pursue a use for Cannabis as treatment or part of a treatment, is at the very least misleading. But, I get your point, I'm sure you would feel much more at home..if whomever is entertaining a cannabis treatment, that it would make you feel better, if that treatment was a lab quality CBD oil in a clinical trial setting. Which isn't feasible in the US..maybe in Israel(?). Seems the lab trials have spurred interest with big pharma. Until then, we have few tools in the fight and the ones we do employ are completely and utterly destructive methods.
I have seen thousands of cancer patients through my 10 year career In Oncology. Only one patient that came into to see her prognosis had taken upon herself a completely natural path.. something called ... Three Feathers. ... to get rid of her breast cancer. She was extremely dedicated to the intense herbal diet and showed me the actual photographs of her Breast Cancer Tumor coming out of her breast! it was truly remarkable. but Big pHam has us by the balls.new reps with lunches Everyday! I cant keep up with all the new chemo drugs .... everyday theres something new and better in chemo Pharm..and the docs eat into it...I wish there were more reps coming arund with alternative approaches. I think the Oncology docs would listen. One ONC doc just started issuing mj cards.
I dream about the day a marijuana garden and lil dispensary would be onsite at the Cancer Center with classes on how to grow your own. That would be so awesome!
Squigs, it kinda doesn't make any sense that cannabis may depress the immune system when research says that it may actually help with problems such as autoimmune disorders, does it?
If nothing else, then adding lysine to her daily regimen would help boost immune system response. If she's had surgeries then a combination of lysine+arginine is clinically proven to speed wound granulation. I've seen it in action myself, it's pretty amazing, and I use lysine for cold sores instead of the liver-killer Valtrex, and, get this--it's just as effective, and it's a fraction of the cost.
I always wonder how many docs actually know about that, vs dietitians.
Like I said, it's unlikely to be harmful to use cannabis oil as a treatment alongside traditional medical treatments. However, it's not possible to rule out any of the following:
1. Unexpected drug interactions with medicines prescribed by physicians (including chemo)
2. Depression of immune system, or some other biochemical function which may have otherwise worked to cure the cancer (in conjunction with the current medical treatment she is receiving).
3. Negative health effects related to cannabis use making life harder for her.
As much as I would like to rules these out--as I'm sure many physicians, patients, and generally compassionate people would like to--it just can't be done. The studies haven't been performed. There is virtually no science out there which can be used to rule such possibilities out. The science which does is exist is EXTREMELY preliminary relative to normal medical treatments. That doesn't mean it's less effective or less impressive--it simply means that we know less about it.
As far palliative care, I think the jury has come back on this one pretty resoundingly. Yes, it can help a great deal--especially for chemo patients. If it's time to make someone comfortable, there is no good reason not to give them some cannabis oil if they want it and believe it will make them feel better.
Beyond that it's really hard to make a solid recommendation one way or the other. It really must come down to the person and what their best judgement tells them, because any scientist or physician worth their salt would just be taking shots in the dark if they tried to address the above 3 concerns (and frankly many more I'm probably leaving out). The data just do not exist to make such a thing feasible.
Anyone willing to tell you otherwise has one of the following:
1. No scientific or medical training.
2. Questionable ethics.
3. A strongly held opinion/belief for which they have little or no solid evidence.
The best thing you can get from anyone regarding all of this is an expert opinion. While it doesn't hold the weight of a well tested scientific explanation, expertise can afford some measure of comfort when dealing with harrowing decisions like this--and it's better than nothing, which is honestly about all we have right now.
Well squigs, ya did it again, and you are correct, the research and papers I'm finding say that cannabis can depress the immune system.
I'm sure there's been some shady buy-offs. I can think of a few recent ones. It's a shady business fer sher. You should check out Dallas Buyer's Club..I think you'd like it. My generation's sexual awareness began in the age of aids..and I never knew about stuff happening like they portray in the movie."Blinded by science."
It's a sad world when real cures are ridiculed and kept hidden from the masses of sick and suffering people... young and old. Big Pharma will never have real cures, too much money being made off what their doing. It's a trillion dollar biz and there's no stopping it. That's all I'll say on this thread, no need to debate or play mental Ping-Pong here....I'm gone. ;)
This post is fantastical. That is all.I wanna be clear here dude, for the sake of your sanity.
This type of treatment cannot hurt, but it is not a guaranteed cure all. The efficacy depends very highly on what specific type of cancer she has (there are thousands of types). Research has shown pretty clearly that cannabis oil has no effect on some types of cancers, only slight effect on others, and only in extremely specific cases provides a possible cure.
A problem this often presents is that people, believing cannabis oil will save them, will use it to the exclusion of all other treatments--ensuring a horrible death for them.
This should only be attempted in the event that the specific type of cancer is identified and falls into one of the groups known to be treatable with cannabis oil.
If that is not the case, it's best to continue working with doctors and to add cannabis oil as a treatment on top of their recommendations.
Failure to do so could result in a much more painful end for your family member than anyone would wish for them. I caution you against putting their life in the hands of internet.
As for anyone who fervently disagrees with me on this, please keep your opinion to yourself (ie, do not direct it at me). I am merely providing my educated opinion in hopes that it can help dirtyshawa make an informed decision.
"Blinded by science."
It's a sad world when real cures are ridiculed and kept hidden from the masses of sick and suffering people... young and old. Big Pharma will never have real cures, too much money being made off what their doing. It's a trillion dollar biz and there's no stopping it. That's all I'll say on this thread, no need to debate or play mental Ping-Pong here....I'm gone. ;)
If she's on chemo, I don't think anyone is advocating stopping chemo...Sure has been reported to help with the side effects of chemo, or the side effects of the drugs to treat the side effects of chemo.i couldn't persuade her to stop getting treatment if i wanted to. Thanks for a voice of reason it's much appreciated!
I'd didn't see anything in his post that lead me to believe he wasn't being objective and factual. In fact most of his posts...(But you need to try Mycogrow dude, you'll never use Cap again) http://www.fungi.com/product-detail/product/mycogrow-soluble-1-lb.htmlThis post is fantastical. That is all.
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