BlackBriar7
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I'm relatively new to Vaping...
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Some people mention that start off their vape session on 160 C then go up to 180 C and then end on 210 C in order to get a full range of effects, which makes sense, but wouldn't vaping right off the bat at 210 C give you the full range of effects because it would have to heat up to those activation temperatures on the way to 210 C, or does the 210 C kill off those cannabinoids and affects?
This is really interesting, thinking about the temperature where different components are destroyed. If I understand your point is that jumping directly to 210C will result in destruction of a portion of the material before consumption can take place? What low temp do you start out at?So here's the thing about cannabis - the entourage effect is what steers the experience. That means terpenes, flavonoids, and of course cannabinoids.
There are many terpenes that start to become volatile at room temp. That is why weed smells right in the jar on the table without a flame. Typically the hydrocarbon terps are fragile and vaporize at a low temp. A little energy makes them evaporate to get sucked into your lungs, a lot of energy will destroy them on contact. Hydrocarbons are inherently looking to become less complex, more stable molecules. Gasoline is a hydrocarbon as an example.
Then you have the difference in the cannabinoids themselves. If you want THCV to make it to your bloodstream, the temp has to be a lot higher than just THC / CBD inhalation. You can use that to your advantage in that wake up weed could be at a high temp blasting thru some of the lower stuff that makes you high while targeting the THCV that gives you the boost like caffeine.
The opposite is true as well. Time for bed, low temps limits THCV ingestion. This assumes you have THCV in your weed in the first place of course.
So the bottom line is you can flavor the experience with modifying temps, if you have good balanced weed with lots of different cannabinoids and terps. If it is your standard dispensary nug, probably doesn't matter much. I'm generalizing, I'm sure there are amazing dispensaries out there somewhere.
After doing this a bunch, I have to vote for ramping up the temps as you go. Starting out high will limit your entourage effect by killing off fragile molecules before they make it to your lungs.
Yes, I believe that is true.This is really interesting, thinking about the temperature where different components are destroyed. If I understand your point is that jumping directly to 210C will result in destruction of a portion of the material before consumption can take place? What low temp do you start out at?
...entourage effect...
...little energy makes them evaporate... ...a lot of energy will destroy them on contact.
Someone mentioned the Herbalaire...
...90% of the time, 370-380 °F works well...
Always done 390F dry herb with Arizer Solo 2 pretty consistently...
...sometimes I went higher but not often as it didn't seem to benefit...
Salutations Glassdub,
That's close to 204 °C and i remember in my thermostatic days that this was my upper limit to never pass, but i forgot the exact expression describing why it was becoming detrimental over this temperature. Flirts with combustion arrived much later after my initiation, once i got the means (based on clean-burning butane).
Tell me, i was banned on GrassCity right after reminding a visitor that Arizer always kept it a constant criteria in their designs to depend on the user's inhalation (e.g. implying the lungs path) to also promote electronics ventilation - since at least 2008, which was the very 1st trace of related concerns to ever come to my attention. So, has Arizer finally included separate paths containment in any new products lately? ... Just asking. Or maybe they didn't like it if i happened to write "robo fart"?... It's been a while since my last attempt to follow that trend i shall confess!!
As i vaguely recall i think the "high temperatures" range is desirable if one is after THCa, THCv or perhaps it's both. You tell me! The CBD noble molecules of "therapeutic" cannabis is another case residing near the opposite boundary of aroma/taste, in part by fault of ovenizer "baking" i might add. Pre-Heating is fine and probably even necessary but lets not forget the OP mentioned "vaping off the bat", so it sounds reasonable to assume he's actually running on e-Liquid(s) dipping in some resistive/coiled heater element powered through an electronic (PWM) rheostat inside a closed-circuit control loop translating as further delays, the slow-steady fashion type i think... As a consequence an accumulation of "baking" effect is to be expected and experience confirms this logical intuition, using Pulse Heating.
With my cust. VG pipe the range of operation starts with clean-butane burning from a single torch flame and goes up to butane lighters with 3. Stronger flame throttle means more energy, hence i've been forced to observe that triple-flame torching works best though this necessarily involves a time-compressed scenario where all temperature slopes coïncide into a brief event, while it's hesitation from longer periods that typically caused combustion accidents, from hesitation interfering with manual mode. Those pocket lighters have relatively tiny fuel tanks and i must testify that my 1 flame unit routinely reminds me about the importance of ENERGY - proportional to throttle.
Ideally it's energy carried by a (convective) "Release/Transport Agent" which causes transformations in the bowl, like to raise temperature until opacity from "cloud" generation feels satisfactory. But the OP's tool appears to suggest an e-Liquid tank instead...
So, in e-Cigs we deal with conduction heating that comes with, guess what, the accumulated effects of "baking" of course. Temperature in a whole liguid mass has to raise until "Transport" can even occur, and this sounds just as unappealing to me as to cook one ~300 mg simply to gain the privilege of an aroma/taste experience lasting only a couple puffs...
How's temperature in e-liquids measured anyway? Ain't the settings more about an extrapolation of the possible yet-to-come toke?... Almost like stove controls in my kitchen.
To be honest if it's got to be electric then i wish i could name a square device with optical scanning of the cannabic path in its control loop.
Got to go! Dinner on its way...
Good day, have fun!!
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