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I will let you know as all that just occured so I am waiting on the reship now, but I am seriously loving the V&B so as long as I do not notice any changes in the formula or inconsistencies between batches Chris has a loyal customer here.how did you like life and size?
Why are you spraying those 2 products alone? Who advised this? Liquid light and Saturator are additives to a foliar recipe. Liquid light allows you to spray with lights on and Saturator is simply a wetting agent, throw in a kelp source and some amino acids.This is happening to some of my older leaves. Does this look like light burn or a deficiency to you guys? Plants are about 10 days into veg. Sprayed them with DM Liquid Light and Saturator at half the recommended dose 1.5 hours after my lights turned on. Turned my t5 on half power. They are getting 300ppm veg+bloom which comes out to .2grams +life/gal 1.7grams veg+bloom/galView attachment 442435 View attachment 442436 View attachment 442437
Cap'n from 420 magazine dot com. Multiple people are using these two alone and getting good results. He has a page in his blogsWhy are you spraying those 2 products alone? Who advised this? Liquid light and Saturator are additives to a foliar recipe. Liquid light allows you to spray with lights on and Saturator is simply a wetting agent, throw in a kelp source and some amino acids.
Cap'n from 420 magazine dot com. Multiple people are using these two alone and getting good results. He has a page in his blogs
I've sprayed my plants with these products twice. Once a week. They have been standing straight up since using and all new growth is super vibrant green. I believe these deficiencies started before I started using the spraysounds like another snake oil potion to me but no basis for that. Just because it doesn't hurt them doesn't mean it helps them either. Less is best with nutes and foliar imo.
If you're going to use them throw in a product like Sea green, all your problems will go away.I've sprayed my plants with these products twice. Once a week. They have been standing straight up since using and all new growth is super vibrant green. I believe these deficiencies started before I started using the spray
Why are you spraying those 2 products alone? Who advised this? Liquid light and Saturator are additives to a foliar recipe. Liquid light allows you to spray with lights on and Saturator is simply a wetting agent, throw in a kelp source and some amino acids.
This is happening to some of my older leaves. Does this look like light burn or a deficiency to you guys? Plants are about 10 days into veg. Sprayed them with DM Liquid Light and Saturator at half the recommended dose 1.5 hours after my lights turned on. Turned my t5 on half power. They are getting 300ppm veg+bloom which comes out to .2grams +life/gal 1.7grams veg+bloom/galView attachment 442435 View attachment 442436 View attachment 442437
Yes, I know exactly what the products do and you gain ZERO benefits from only using them in a foliar feed. Hence the reason you add Kelp and CA 25.Liquid Light and Saturator were designed to work together. It's actually the Saturator that allows you to spray with your lights on. The liquid light is a pretty full balanced foliar product.I use Saturator with all my foliars, except when I use cal 25 and kelp.
I'd say you are underfeeding. My 2 cents. I'd flush em with 1/2 strength nutes then start feeding them a bit heavier. Like 4 grams per gallon.
Liquid Light and Saturator were designed to work together. It's actually the Saturator that allows you to spray with your lights on. The liquid light is a pretty full balanced foliar product.I use Saturator with all my foliars, except when I use cal 25 and kelp.
I'd say you are underfeeding. My 2 cents. I'd flush em with 1/2 strength nutes then start feeding them a bit heavier. Like 4 grams per gallon.
Ive used that Optic before. Good stuff. I should probably switch over to the transport as I dont care too much for DM. I use cal25 and kelp...but not with liquid light or saturator.Yes, I know exactly what the products do and you gain ZERO benefitDMITRY. from only using them in a foliar feed. Hence the reason you add Kelp and CA 25.
Another thing to add about those is that they have been revamped and are being offered from a different company with the original chemist behind them. Called Optic Foliar.
It does look like it could be calcium. I feed pretty heavy out the gate. I start my rooted clones at 4g per gallon....then I ramp it up.4 grams per gallon comes out to like 700 ppm, 1.4 ec. These are gorilla glue 4 I was told to feed em lightly. I fed em around 500ppm about 4 days ago when I noticed new growth and tips started turning yellow. So I backed off to around 300. Was going to bump it up to around 400 which comes out to around like 2.3 grams per gallon
that sounds like classic symptoms of underfeeding with V+B - I used to hover around 1.4 - 1.5 and saw similar symptoms ..... but once i bumped it to 1.6-1.7 its a different story - BTW this is refrencing a peat grow - in FWOK I am feeding 2.0
I never go under 1.5-1.6 unless i am flushing or the plants are jacked up on food already then you can back it down
i agree with this, same thing was happening to me a month or so ago. bumped up to 1.8 and all nice and dark green again.
some did but the new growth shaded most of the fading lowers. not sure the color change but definitely stronger
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