Veg+bloom Switch, What Should I Expect?

tonyaroma · Apr 21, 2019

thunderfudge said:
@3balls I'll give u the recipe bro
from day 1 of bloom
Base 6g per gal
LIFE .2g per gal
3 ml cal mag per gal
Add SHINE at day 10 ,1g per gal
You should be around 1250 ppms
******
Day 35
BASE 3g per gal
SHINE 2g per gal
LIFE .2g per gal
CAL MAG 3 ml per gal
That's about 800 poms
*******
Day 42
SHINE 1g per gal
*******
Day 49
Water

That's an 8 week schedule.for 10 weekers I extend the 1-34 feed until day 48.
What to expect ? Alot of stretch the 1st 2 weeks,huge roots,and the need for almost daily feedings.The later flower thing would be how explosive that shine is when the base it cut.

Veg is...
BASE 4g per gallon
LIFE .2g per gallon
CAL MAG 2-3 ml per gallon

do you find the ppm is high for some plants ever? last round one table of gg4 i ran had the buds lock up and my yield for them was pretty brutal. dansbud's thread on ICMAG suggested no more than 1.4 past day 28, day 35 at most. I don't take that as the absolute truth obviously, his thread was just full of great veg+bloom information. i'm going to run this recipe this round, just wondering if you had any tips!

Funkadelic · May 1, 2019

thunderfudge said:
@3balls I'll give u the recipe bro
from day 1 of bloom
Base 6g per gal
LIFE .2g per gal
3 ml cal mag per gal
Add SHINE at day 10 ,1g per gal
You should be around 1250 ppms
******
Day 35
BASE 3g per gal
SHINE 2g per gal
LIFE .2g per gal
CAL MAG 3 ml per gal
That's about 800 poms
*******
Day 42
SHINE 1g per gal
*******
Day 49
Water

That's an 8 week schedule.for 10 weekers I extend the 1-34 feed until day 48.
What to expect ? Alot of stretch the 1st 2 weeks,huge roots,and the need for almost daily feedings.The later flower thing would be how explosive that shine is when the base it cut.

Veg is...
BASE 4g per gallon
LIFE .2g per gallon
CAL MAG 2-3 ml per gallon

I'm following this to the letter right now. THANK you for your recipe.

I'm approaching Day 42 - but I'm doing 9 weeks not 8. I'm not sure when I should switch to just Shine?

Day 42 still? 45ish? 49?

Flush with 3 days H2O at the end, yes? Small pot coco here.....

James1969 · Jul 4, 2019

Welp, I just recently got a new veg/bloom recipe from a buddy. I've been using it since Oct 18. I've been working on honing my recipe with mixed results, some good, some bad. That's not due to the product, but due to my inexperience with it. Anyhoodle, the recipe my homey gave me is a bit different than this, but they're pulling 2.5-3 lbs per light. What kind of numbers with what strain does this recipe yield??
I'm not expecting those same results right out of the gate, but I can say I'm surprised at how quickly they're developing flower. They went dark on Friday and are showing as of this morning!!

James1969 · Jul 28, 2019

Here is my Cherry Poppins, 30 days in.

Uno · Jul 31, 2019

James1969 said:
Welp, I just recently got a new veg/bloom recipe from a buddy. I've been using it since Oct 18. I've been working on honing my recipe with mixed results, some good, some bad. That's not due to the product, but due to my inexperience with it. Anyhoodle, the recipe my homey gave me is a bit different than this, but they're pulling 2.5-3 lbs per light. What kind of numbers with what strain does this recipe yield??
I'm not expecting those same results right out of the gate, but I can say I'm surprised at how quickly they're developing flower. They went dark on Friday and are showing as of this morning!!

Funkadelic said:
I'm following this to the letter right now. THANK you for your recipe.

I'm approaching Day 42 - but I'm doing 9 weeks not 8. I'm not sure when I should switch to just Shine?

Day 42 still? 45ish? 49?

Flush with 3 days H2O at the end, yes? Small pot coco here.....

James1969 said:
Here is my Cherry Poppins, 30 days in.

Looks beautiful! You running V+B ?

James1969 · Aug 1, 2019

Thanks!! Yep, Veg Bloom FTW! This room is an 8 lighter, I've got Cherry Poppins under 1 light and the other 7 have all Gelato 41, with the exception of one plant of my proprietary strains. That one doesn't seem to like this recipe, so I'm going to keep using Botanicare for that particular strain.

James1969 · Aug 1, 2019

Funkadelic said:
I'm following this to the letter right now. THANK you for your recipe.

I'm approaching Day 42 - but I'm doing 9 weeks not 8. I'm not sure when I should switch to just Shine?

Day 42 still? 45ish? 49?

Flush with 3 days H2O at the end, yes? Small pot coco here.....

Can you share some info on your grow with this recipe?
Strain?
Light wattage?
Grams per light?
Pics?

YellowPerson · Mar 8, 2020

thunderfudge said:
Lookin good bro!

Hello, Newcomer here, I was wondering your recipe starts with R.O water? 0ppm or close as possible to 0 and add the calmag

Dbarnes · Apr 2, 2020

James1969 said:
Welp, I just recently got a new veg/bloom recipe from a buddy. I've been using it since Oct 18. I've been working on honing my recipe with mixed results, some good, some bad. That's not due to the product, but due to my inexperience with it. Anyhoodle, the recipe my homey gave me is a bit different than this, but they're pulling 2.5-3 lbs per light. What kind of numbers with what strain does this recipe yield??
I'm not expecting those same results right out of the gate, but I can say I'm surprised at how quickly they're developing flower. They went dark on Friday and are showing as of this morning!!

What was the recipe your buddy gave you ?

Thailord · Apr 8, 2020

thunderfudge said:
@3balls I'll give u the recipe bro
from day 1 of bloom
Base 6g per gal
LIFE .2g per gal
3 ml cal mag per gal
Add SHINE at day 10 ,1g per gal
You should be around 1250 ppms
******
Day 35
BASE 3g per gal
SHINE 2g per gal
LIFE .2g per gal
CAL MAG 3 ml per gal
That's about 800 poms
*******
Day 42
SHINE 1g per gal
*******
Day 49
Water

That's an 8 week schedule.for 10 weekers I extend the 1-34 feed until day 48.
What to expect ? Alot of stretch the 1st 2 weeks,huge roots,and the need for almost daily feedings.The later flower thing would be how explosive that shine is when the base it cut.

Veg is...
BASE 4g per gallon
LIFE .2g per gallon
CAL MAG 2-3 ml per gallon

Pretty close to my schedule after a few test runs. I add Power Si(into week 5), Stackswell(into week 4), and Mammoth P. No brainer nutes, easy to use, easy to measure, and results are comparable with any line on the market IMHO

Lp_jr · Jul 13, 2020

I've heard you really don't need to add cal/mag to any Veg + base, however they do make Stackswell, a cal/mag supplement. Go figure.

Tench · Oct 27, 2020

thunderfudge said:
I'm in coco so feed feed feed lol.every day

Hello my friend, what do you mean? You really newer wash coco ? Only food food food ??

Tench · Oct 27, 2020

thunderfudge said:
I would mix it in a bucket with a gallon of water and add it to your res,cal mag goes in res 1st before I add nutes.

I also keep another pump in my res for circulating purposes

Only food food food or you just kidding ?

Budcalyx · Jan 10, 2021

Funkadelic said:
I'm following this to the letter right now. THANK you for your recipe.

I'm approaching Day 42 - but I'm doing 9 weeks not 8. I'm not sure when I should switch to just Shine?

Day 42 still? 45ish? 49?

Flush with 3 days H2O at the end, yes? Small pot coco here.....
[/QUOT.....alright there..I just started with v+b ...am i right on thinking you start at a higher ppm till day 35 then drop to 800 when they need more p+k? Cos It's usually the other way around...and what ppm/ ec reading in in veg phase please. I'm in small rdwc net tanks/QUOTE]

Budcalyx · Jan 10, 2021

Im not questioning your results, its just that your ppm/ ec levels are way higher than on the hr feed schedule. pretty sure ive been underfeeding...(light brown leaf tips) and lost first fan leaves...( looked like phospherous defficiency...) in not too fussed about them as I train them. I've upped to 1.5 ec...4th week in veg, they seem to have perked up....Im wondering about recirculation pump off for periods of time. That's how I did it 20 years ago..or is it pump on 24/7 these days?

PpmOver9000 · Jan 10, 2021

ohh a veg bloom thread that's not deserted. Im using vb in rockwool, anyone doing the same?

PpmOver9000 · Jan 11, 2021

Question for other veg+bloom users, do i need to have aeration such as an air stone if i have Life+ in a reservoir?

j1sonbrother · Jan 11, 2021

I see a lot of commercial companys using these two products（Roots Excelurator plus Aino treatment from House & Garden line）.
i think （ Veg+Bloom +calamg+silica+ bloom booster+Roots Excelurator + Aino treatment) will be totally enough .
If you don't want to be too complicated, I highly recommend VEG+BLOOM+ golden tree（ALL IN ON ），If you're looking for more sweetness flavour, you might add an extra one similar to Honey chome （emerald harvest , this product is really killing it ）starting from mid bloom.

To be honest ,Nutrient solution is really not a necessary key element，even only with Aqua Flakes A + Aqua Flakes B ，u will still get great work, too，Bro.

As for coco, it's really hard to answer how long it takes to water, because everyone's environmental and plants are different (if the environment and plants are in line ). it will be need to be watered once in about 2 days in 3-gallon pot staring from the middle or later of VEG ,that also has something to do with how much perlite you mix with soil .
I will water it every time and lift it Get up and feel the weight，after one or two days, decide whether to water or not

But recently, I learned that if coco is too dry, the micros in it will "disappear".

thunderfudge · Feb 6, 2021

This is an 8 week schedule.
If you run more than 8 weeks adjust from the base split and shine boost ie:day 35 in an 8 week schedule now becomes day 42 in a 9 week schedule

thunderfudge · Feb 6, 2021

And I always use rinsed coco.char coir is my first choice.

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