Voracious Russet Mite killer/prevention

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I have a small garden, and saw an infestation on a few clones that came from the outside. I went ballistic with alternating mights wash, caps bennies, and spinosad, and they never came back.

I spray with the lights out (or pull the plant out of the tent) and soak every square inch of surface area on the plant to the point of dripping, then I spray some more. This is all while screaming "DIE YOU MOTHER FUCKING BITCHES!!!!!!!" Drenching is the key to eradication. And screaming of course.

Oh, and I did have success in limiting the spread of a population with predator mites. As you mentioned, this is in a small tent.

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Thanks for the info. That is what I do also Outwest, absolutely drench them while rotating different miticides if I find an outbreak. So Mighty Wash is pretty effective bullet for ones arsenal of defenses in the garden then?
 
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Definitely. If you dig around, you'll see that folks who use it swear by it.

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I have a question for the all knowing or those that can help. I have these little fu kers (Hemp Russet Mites) for over a year now. I spotted them in flower in my first batch, and got them from a clone from a douche in Michigan. I am a legal grower here in Michigan in a Hydo system I designed myself. I have had a great sucess with this system until this little fu ker showed up. Now all I get is my crystles eaten before the 5th week of flower. I have used AZA Max, AZASol, Spinicide, Mite Wash, Imideaclopid (Systmic) and about everything one can buy. Spent over 500 dollars or more to try and get rid of them. I just went and bought 4 Pyretheium bombs and am crossing my nuts they kill them. Im in veg now becuase I will not waste the time or money to send these into flower knowing the end result. I just went and bought this product that Bluzboy recommended "NO Worry". I have not used yet but will keep everyone posted on them. I tore down everything I had (hudge veg and waited a month to try again with a new clone provider) My outside plants are doing amazing, but the inside ones are showing signs of this little fu ker again. I sprayed the bomb last night and cut a fan leaf off to inspect due to the curled tips. I dont and have not see any of these little fu kers running around, but am now seeing lots of eggs on them. Do to me spending so much money on trying to get rid of them, I am not able to afford a micro video camara to show you the fu kers or there eggs. I know their there I could wright a book on the signs of them, and they love love love my crystles. I am praying that this round of war will end with me victorious unstead of them laughing at me and enjoying the fine delight of my product. I will try everything that has been reported on this thread and report back. I m 100% they are russet mites, dispite my veg looking good I know whats to come if I dont win. Sorry for the spelling....
 
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Well 24 hours after spraying down veg room with worry free the fuckers are NOT moving! Looking forward my girls looking healthy again. I hate these bugs!!! My poor girlscoutcookies!

Sara in Sac.
 
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Good to hear, I also have girlscoutcookies to save. I have bought the worry free, and the oil they sell. Cheap price!!! Hard to believe that it would work when the super expencive stuff makes them laugh. Im more worried about there eggs, I see them with my scope and there are millions of them. I doubt the spray got them all. I would re treat with the oil. The eggs are the problem. They can be on the walls on the floor ect... and they can lay dormant for months. I mean to tell you this, because you cant let your guard down. I found that they have a natural enemy, called amblyseious andersoni. They will set up ship and eat them till their hearts content. The place to find them is here,Dan Cahn 805-986-8265 its in california, and are about 25,000 of them for 100 bucks. If you have a over wehelming population then you will want to knock them down before using. I hate hate hate these fuckers and want them to die. Very few people know about them, and that makes the battle very hard to find a resolution. Good luck to us and everyone who has these fucks.
 
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I got russet mites, and my experience was a lot like bluzboy's in that they would die back with pyrethrins, but were not controlled and certainly not eradicated.

Finally, I read all my pesticide labels in their entirety, and got an idea; Avid's label says that its effective persistence is extended with the use of a horticultural oil. Azamax is a pesticide with a horticultural oil base... So, I put the two together and discovered that this combination is very powerful!

Recipe;
3 ml Avid
60 ml Azamax, or Azatrol (not Azasol!)
1 gallon of water at 100F (warm tapwater)

Spray it all, it doesn't keep. Make another batch and spray again 8-14 days after the first application. This gets any you missed the first time, and this interval targets the next generation directly.

This recipe is proportional; you can cut all the ingredients by 4 and end up with a quart that works just as well.

I do not recommend adding anything else. The Avid needs the horticultural oil to remain an oil, not be emulsified to effectively extend its persistence.

Bluzboy called Avid a systemic. It is not- it's applied via foliar spray, not through the roots.

I second his assessment about letting 45 days pass before harvesting.
 
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Well glad to hear you had some sucess. However I would never never never never never never use AVID period. If you read on the label 10 drops of the poision will kill a man. This is not a safe pestacide at all. I would never sell or smoke anything like avid as a product. It is a systemic and plants can obsorb it (chemicals) through the leaves as well as the roots. Thats not the biggest concern, its the human heath risk. As for the AZAMAX it is a neem oil, and is not that effective against these type of russets that I have. I did that product till I was sprouting neem leaves out of my ears. Nothing worked with that product. Not to say it would not work for someone else, but for the expence and such not worth it to me. AZASOl is a neem product as well, and is stronger then AZAMAX, but is not an oil base, so I would aggree with you there. AZADRACTIN is not going to eat them up or cause them to change sex. Canola oil or mineral oil will sufficate them and is about a fraction the cost without the heath effects to humans. I have a problem with waiting 45 days in my system, becuase my plants would be as tall as my house in that time. If you are using coco or dirt then I would understand having that much time, but thats just way to long to let a product bleed out. Be safe if you are going to continue with such a regular routine. :cigar:
 
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Okay I just sparyed Worrie Free and am feeling like I am doing something I already have done. I am going to spray with Horticulture oil in two days. Wish me luck..... Then after that sits about a week, then I bring out the Andersoni. I have a problem with Buzzboys post, at first he claims to have used Mitewash, then is asking about it later in the thread. How can one use it then be asking about it? Hummm....... If you dont have an answer, then leave the people who do to explain, you are only confusing people and wasting others money and time. I know we are all out to get each other cuz its not bad enough the bugs, cops, and growers all hate that we grow. (well bugs like it) However, what we need to realize is that people who grow are like family and need to look after each other, becuase we have a long way to go to win this war. Note if you are in Michigan and you get your clones from a fucker named James (short black dude with funky fro) from A2genics beat that fucker over the head for me. He will give you Russet mites.... :mad:
 
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I spray with the lights out (or pull the plant out of the tent) and soak every square inch of surface area on the plant to the point of dripping, then I spray some more. This is all while screaming "DIE YOU MOTHER FUCKING BITCHES!!!!!!!" Drenching is the key to eradication. And screaming of course.
outwest

One must allways use their "Battle Cry" for full effectiveness ;)

PnL
 
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I used this same product but it hasn't worked. Not sure what the problem is.
Ray2015-If you got russet mites it won' work...about the only thing that will wipe them out of the room is to use F4(Forbid) the plants in your veg if you want to save them and kill your bloom room...if its ordinary common mites and the Worry Free is not working then try "Organozide" from Home Depot, very cheap...it comes in concentrate or ready to use and is just fish oil with sesame and rosemary oil and kills the eggs, the larvae, and the adults in one application/drenching and is ORMI approved...but your bloom and veg room will smell like a New Orleans fish cannery for about 24 to 48 hours after ...which is better than having the mites and the plants lovvvve the fish oil....if its russet mites, the only thing I found that wipes them out is F4, especially if you live rurally as I do and have a 1500 acre fallow field next door...I got to F4 my veg room every 90 days to keep russets and root aphids away...that's another problem too, root aphids that can appear to be mite infestation...check your soil or coco for them as they and russets are like the Borg and have you just got to wipe them out of the room/tent/closet and grow medium with Spectracide for root aphids and F4 for russets...you bomb, you can neem, use Worry Free, Azamax, Rosenthals stuff, Mighty wash, etc...none will do nothing against root aphids or russets...got to hit them and the room with a systemic especially here in Colorado and the wet humid summer has made them just prolific as hell and the farmers I live around say its the worse for root aphids and russet mites in their fields in decades that I live around here in the AG area I reside in and they got crop dusters hitting their fields with Avid all over out here...
 
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Ray2015-try the Organozide from Home Depot Garden Center or a lot of the Hydro shops carry it because it is a highly rated ORMI for vegetable gardening as well a s cannabis...start there, check the soil/coco, and make sure you in;t got root aphids..if its root aphids, the plants if in veg can be treated with Spectracide, a 6 week systemic, if in bloom...cut them down, salvage what you can of flowers that might be able to cure if late enough in the flowering and Doc Doom bomb the shit out of that room or tent or closet bro a least twice before putting plants back in if its your flower area that's infected.......
 
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I got russet mites, and my experience was a lot like bluzboy's in that they would die back with pyrethrins, but were not controlled and certainly not eradicated.

Finally, I read all my pesticide labels in their entirety, and got an idea; Avid's label says that its effective persistence is extended with the use of a horticultural oil. Azamax is a pesticide with a horticultural oil base... So, I put the two together and discovered that this combination is very powerful!

Recipe;
3 ml Avid
60 ml Azamax, or Azatrol (not Azasol!)
1 gallon of water at 100F (warm tapwater)

Spray it all, it doesn't keep. Make another batch and spray again 8-14 days after the first application. This gets any you missed the first time, and this interval targets the next generation directly.

This recipe is proportional; you can cut all the ingredients by 4 and end up with a quart that works just as well.

I do not recommend adding anything else. The Avid needs the horticultural oil to remain an oil, not be emulsified to effectively extend its persistence.

Bluzboy called Avid a systemic. It is not- it's applied via foliar spray, not through the roots.

I second his assessment about letting 45 days pass before harvesting.
@ttystikk-I use F4(Forbid) for russets if I find them in veg...it disperses quicker, as a systemic, maybe hangs in for 5 weeks and then is gone. I now just spray the veg room and all plants big and small every 8 to 10 weeks with F4 as once they are in the flower room, by the 4th week, the systemics are clearing out of the plants system and I have to indulge in spraying ORMI's every three to 4 days to keep out any ordinary mite infestations but at least no russets or root aphids the last two years from doing so...knock on wood..... by the 4th week of bloom I'm spraying Mega Wash on Thursdays and Organozide on Sundays in rote every week through out the rest the plants bloom cycle in the flower room to prevent common mites looking to re-invade...that's what I do that works for me out here living rural around all these AG fields either in fallow or being worked.......
 
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The same goes for the avid? Some say not to use the avid more than twice in one grow because you can create super mites. Just curious. Again your help and any info is highly appreciated.
I us Forbid in the veg room only and shoot everything in there every 45 to 60 days and have been doing so for a long time and no super mites...I think that is more related to using azamax and the mites build up a tolerance to Azamaz and the pyrethium in it...never heard of mites or aphids adapting or overcoming Avid or F4, not that it couldn't happen, just never heard of it being an issue or mites adapting to and persisting with using Forbid or Avid...the farmers out here use Avid and or a generic similar systemic on their fields out here yearly and the crop dusters are using Avid on the large vegetable farms out here by aerial spraying.....my neighbor who farms about 4500 acres says that what he uses and has used for years without mites or aphids adapting to it...but again, there may be cases where I am unaware and uninformed of it happening Ray2015....best regards in all your growing endeavors bro!
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